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On February 13 2013 06:49 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 06:43 Yagami wrote:
It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now?
Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me.
But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved.
ADC have seemed to be much more binary recently, at least in my experience. They either kill everything or nothing, with absolutely no middle ground. Either they get 6 items and shred or they have 3 and get rolled. And that's just against the non-maxed bruisers. 2-3 items seems to be enough to prevent being killed by all but the strongest ADC.
i've been doing really well with cait this season. Bruisers haven't been a problem for me, the only real problem has been akali >_>
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I'm on da front page of Reddit again. Except this time it's not quite as cool.
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Is it sad that I just looked at reddit and IMMEDIATELY knew which clip was gonna be you?
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Hey man, that's not nice. It could have been BIG PLAYS ON SUPPORT.
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On February 13 2013 07:23 Chrispy wrote:
Hey man, that's not nice. It could have been BIG PLAYS ON SUPPORT.
No, no it couldnt. Sorry bro.
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On February 13 2013 07:12 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 06:49 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 13 2013 06:43 Yagami wrote:
It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now?
Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me.
But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved.
ADC have seemed to be much more binary recently, at least in my experience. They either kill everything or nothing, with absolutely no middle ground. Either they get 6 items and shred or they have 3 and get rolled. And that's just against the non-maxed bruisers. 2-3 items seems to be enough to prevent being killed by all but the strongest ADC. i've been doing really well with cait this season. Bruisers haven't been a problem for me, the only real problem has been akali >_>
Let's make Zonya's but for ad carries.. bam problem solved.
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On February 13 2013 07:12 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 06:49 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 13 2013 06:43 Yagami wrote:
It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now?
Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me.
But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved.
ADC have seemed to be much more binary recently, at least in my experience. They either kill everything or nothing, with absolutely no middle ground. Either they get 6 items and shred or they have 3 and get rolled. And that's just against the non-maxed bruisers. 2-3 items seems to be enough to prevent being killed by all but the strongest ADC. i've been doing really well with cait this season. Bruisers haven't been a problem for me, the only real problem has been akali >_>
Ive had pretty good succes with Varus aswell. opening Dorans>BotrK>PD>BT. by getting the fast BotrK your doing % dmg soon enough to have it by the time bruisers start getting there Warmogs.
Problem is indeed assassins diving you past pretty much anything.
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On February 13 2013 07:12 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 06:49 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 13 2013 06:43 Yagami wrote:
It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now?
Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me.
But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved.
ADC have seemed to be much more binary recently, at least in my experience. They either kill everything or nothing, with absolutely no middle ground. Either they get 6 items and shred or they have 3 and get rolled. And that's just against the non-maxed bruisers. 2-3 items seems to be enough to prevent being killed by all but the strongest ADC. i've been doing really well with cait this season. Bruisers haven't been a problem for me, the only real problem has been akali >_>
Mid Season 2 I believe Chaox's Ezreal worked under the assumption that every time you B, you buy a damage item. He'd piecemeal his Ez incrementally and always returned to lane with +10 more damage than he had before. Perhaps that's the meta we should shoot for?
BFSword/Brut/Pickaxe when appropriate for your gold after a B, 1-3 Doran's for remainder golds.
Rushing IE/Thirster has a less reliable power curve and prone to power spikes. Unless these power spikes are abused, you're below the power curve until late game. You're certainly below the curve until the big items are completed. Since Tanky DPS items have a mid-game efficiency curve, it explains the binary win/lose situation of ADC as of late:
Either you get your big item FAST, spike greatly, abuse, and win
Or
You get your big item OK, spike a bit, end up even-to-behind mid-game. Your efficiency is dependent on how efficient the enemy bruisers have been.
Or
You get your big item late, and end up failing as you're behind the power curve to do enough damage.
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On February 13 2013 07:24 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 07:23 Chrispy wrote:
Hey man, that's not nice. It could have been BIG PLAYS ON SUPPORT. No, no it couldnt. Sorry bro.
Two_Down also thinks that it couldn't have been SMART PEOPLE. I wonder what he thinks of your intelligence.....
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Has anybody considered Spirit of the Spectral Wraiths on mid laners?
I hear the +% damage affects lane minions too (unconfirmed), and the stats are very cost effective.
I'd be interested in seeing if Void Staff + Spectral Wraith outdamaged Deathcap + Fiendish Codex on champions. If it did it'd be about the same price and you'd get a ton of free MP5 and spell vamp.
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On February 13 2013 07:38 cascades wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 07:24 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 13 2013 07:23 Chrispy wrote:
Hey man, that's not nice. It could have been BIG PLAYS ON SUPPORT. No, no it couldnt. Sorry bro. Two_Down also thinks that it couldn't have been SMART PEOPLE. I wonder what he thinks of your intelligence.....
I thought it was gonna be SMART PEOPLE to be fair.
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Scarra really like spirit of the spectral wraith on anivia. It gives so much CDR for so cheap + all that spellvamp. He was talking about it on stream like a week ago.
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On February 13 2013 07:42 Ketara wrote:
Has anybody considered Spirit of the Spectral Wraiths on mid laners?
I hear the +% damage affects lane minions too (unconfirmed), and the stats are very cost effective.
I'd be interested in seeing if Void Staff + Spectral Wraith outdamaged Deathcap + Fiendish Codex on champions. If it did it'd be about the same price and you'd get a ton of free MP5 and spell vamp.
Well, depending on the mid, deathcap can be worse than Voidstaff anyways. Pen is strong right now.
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In general I think void staff outdamages deathcap for most champions, but deathcap makes it much easier to waveclear, which is why I'm interested in a void staff + spectral wraith combo since I've HEARD (unconfirmed) that the +20% damage affects lane minions.
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On February 13 2013 07:54 Ketara wrote:
In general I think void staff outdamages deathcap for most champions, but deathcap makes it much easier to waveclear, which is why I'm interested in a void staff + spectral wraith combo since I've HEARD (unconfirmed) that the +20% damage affects lane minions.
If Machete/Spirit Stone affects lane minions now, it's a bug.
And if it does, it means that pretty much every hero should just buy a Machete for midgame wave clear, and just not upgrade it. Zero reason why you'd upgrade to even Spirit Stone when +10% damage is enough for a Void Staff to wave clear. Essentially equivalent to carries in DotA buying a QB to speed up midgame farm, and then selling it when they need the slot.
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That would indeed be a very exploitable bug.
Especially for earlygame laneswaps.
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after testing it twice with brand and cait, I see no evidence that machete works on lane creeps
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Just tested it. Doesn't affect lane minions. My friends are full of shit!
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They probably looked up Butcher in the wiki and got the item passive confused with the mastery.
Or they're just derp.
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