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[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 175

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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 12 2013 21:06 GMT
#3481
Xerath is much less safe in lane though, even though he has range he doesn't have the aoe slow+possibly double snare(although he does have his stun).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#3482
On February 13 2013 05:50 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 05:27 TheKefka wrote:
On February 13 2013 05:14 Crownlol wrote:
On February 13 2013 04:37 TheKefka wrote:
No shes not.Anivias ult is pretty short range when you think about it and it allows for at least some sort of counter play.Lux ults creepwaves from half the map away and theres nothing you can do about it.
Anivia really shines when you need to protect the high ground tower-



Isn't this assuming you let a Lux get to 6items? And at that point, creepwaves are the least of your concerns. Lux is pretty strong, but not crazy OP or anything. She's also super easy to gank and blow up in teamfights.

no lol you don't need 6 items..You can start doing it with a single cdr item,blue buff and a lvl 2,3 ult.
With the high ap ratio it's really easy to outscale the minion health growth and even if you don't you just throw a E(which also has milion range) to the ground and clear the rest.
Creep waves are extremely important for a 5v5 push,especially for the high ground tower.If you eliminate them so efficiently than it gets really retarded.


Except there are a lot of people who can basically instaclear from safe range. They dont have to blow ult either.

Ziggs: Throw mines and a bomb
Viktor: one lazer
Xerath: Siege and 2 Q's

Viktor only has 700 range on cast (and ~400 on the laser length) so it's easy to take potshots at him, or even just fire skillshots, while he has to get close to it (he actually doesn't have the range to clear the whole wave: he relies on the laser's movement speed and the minions moving toward it to do so).

Ziggs on the other hand...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 12 2013 21:12 GMT
#3483
On February 13 2013 06:02 Ketara wrote:
So what you're saying is Xerath sleeper OP?


yes
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 12 2013 21:12 GMT
#3484
I, too, miss liquidparty.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 12 2013 21:16 GMT
#3485
On February 13 2013 06:06 red_ wrote:
Xerath is much less safe in lane though, even though he has range he doesn't have the aoe slow+possibly double snare(although he does have his stun).


Xerath is as safe in lane as you want, if you are scaredy cat you can just max W over E and never leave the sweet embrace of the tower.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
xarchaosx
Profile Joined February 2012
United States89 Posts
February 12 2013 21:16 GMT
#3486
I don't know if anyone saw this TOO playing the jungle dog (nasus). it's been pretty entertaining to say the least

Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 12 2013 21:22 GMT
#3487
the real op thing about lux is her new skin. Can't see spells.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 12 2013 21:28 GMT
#3488
On February 13 2013 06:22 Keniji wrote:
the real op thing about lux is her new skin. Can't see spells.

FUCKING SERIOUSLY.

How do you dodge what you cant see? I die like once every game to a lux with that skin simply because I cant see the shit.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
February 12 2013 21:29 GMT
#3489
So, I started my placement matches on an account that has never done ranked and they're seriously such a joke. It's almost insulting how people you get matched with are significantly worse than anyone I've met in normals since before the account even turned level 10. They should really take into consideration your normal ELO to some degree.

Anyway, that's beside the point of: How do I best carry these idiots on my back?

#1) If I lane, I always win the lane. It's usually a substantial lead too.
#2) If I jungle, it's a crapshoot. I've given lanes substantial leads with ganks, only to have them piss the advantage away by diving. People seem to think that being +1-3 kills means they can be risky and dive. Turrets do a shit ton of damage early-mid game, and it's just silly to see people waste everything. I also can't be everywhere at once, and multiple lanes will be floundering or overpushed such that I feel jungling is wasting my potential due to point #1. Any fotm junglers I'm missing out on here?
#3) I cannot get people to dragon with me ever. Even the biggest freebie dragons ever. Herding cats is difficult. I can only type in caps so much. How do I convince them that free dragons are a good thing?

I believe that the best way to carry these people, kicking and screaming to victory is to go AD and itemize for mid-game. I find that mid-game is the time to shine as people don't know how to win via attrition such that a late-game carry's power comes too late. Is my assessment correct? Any back-brace tips on how to carry these idiots?
"Do a barrel roll"
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 12 2013 21:29 GMT
#3490
Very surprised riot hasn't changed that skin still.....But the real question is how did that go through testing....Are they blind or something?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 12 2013 21:29 GMT
#3491
Per Neo's suggestion, I put the LoL off the Record episode up on reddit - let's get it noticed?
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/18ecfy/ogn_lol_off_the_record_ep_4_subtitled_kt_rolster/
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 12 2013 21:31 GMT
#3492
On February 13 2013 06:02 Ketara wrote:
So what you're saying is Xerath sleeper OP?

Even with Xerath's range, if enemy gap closers have vision of you, you are still getting dived.... the 2 spell stun isn't fast enough for a single spell gap close imo.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14075 Posts
February 12 2013 21:32 GMT
#3493
On February 13 2013 06:29 nafta wrote:
Very surprised riot hasn't changed that skin still.....But the real question is how did that go through testing....Are they blind or something?

We assume that riot knows its a problem from them banning the skin from the lcs but there isn't an indicator past that for them changing it. .
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 21:35:11
February 12 2013 21:34 GMT
#3494
At least Frost Annie's stun is more visible now.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 12 2013 21:43 GMT
#3495
On February 13 2013 06:29 Phunkapotamus wrote:
So, I started my placement matches on an account that has never done ranked and they're seriously such a joke. It's almost insulting how people you get matched with are significantly worse than anyone I've met in normals since before the account even turned level 10. They should really take into consideration your normal ELO to some degree.

Anyway, that's beside the point of: How do I best carry these idiots on my back?

#1) If I lane, I always win the lane. It's usually a substantial lead too.
#2) If I jungle, it's a crapshoot. I've given lanes substantial leads with ganks, only to have them piss the advantage away by diving. People seem to think that being +1-3 kills means they can be risky and dive. Turrets do a shit ton of damage early-mid game, and it's just silly to see people waste everything. I also can't be everywhere at once, and multiple lanes will be floundering or overpushed such that I feel jungling is wasting my potential due to point #1. Any fotm junglers I'm missing out on here?
#3) I cannot get people to dragon with me ever. Even the biggest freebie dragons ever. Herding cats is difficult. I can only type in caps so much. How do I convince them that free dragons are a good thing?

I believe that the best way to carry these people, kicking and screaming to victory is to go AD and itemize for mid-game. I find that mid-game is the time to shine as people don't know how to win via attrition such that a late-game carry's power comes too late. Is my assessment correct? Any back-brace tips on how to carry these idiots?


Get Vi, just solo drag perfectly safely, if people come you just Q back out of the pit. Great clear speed and solid ganks too (really good after 6).

Just play whatever you are best at and roam a lot after you win your lane. Trash talk your lane opponent and enemy jungle in allchat to try to get them to turn on each other.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
February 12 2013 21:43 GMT
#3496
It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now?

Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me.

But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved.

Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 12 2013 21:48 GMT
#3497
Why do so many AD carries start Doran's these days? Is it just to survive a possible all-in from an enemy Doran's start before the first back? I like longsword much better - faster Vamp and sustain in lane, but I am a crappy ADC and have no clue about bot laning.
currently rooting for myself.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 12 2013 21:49 GMT
#3498
On February 13 2013 06:43 Yagami wrote:
It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now?

Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me.

But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved.


ADC have seemed to be much more binary recently, at least in my experience.

They either kill everything or nothing, with absolutely no middle ground. Either they get 6 items and shred or they have 3 and get rolled.

And that's just against the non-maxed bruisers. 2-3 items seems to be enough to prevent being killed by all but the strongest ADC.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 12 2013 21:56 GMT
#3499
On February 13 2013 06:48 Shiv. wrote:
Why do so many AD carries start Doran's these days? Is it just to survive a possible all-in from an enemy Doran's start before the first back? I like longsword much better - faster Vamp and sustain in lane, but I am a crappy ADC and have no clue about bot laning.


You can heal up the same as with longsword/2 pots pretty fast.Vamp early heals for very little compared to doran(unless you draven) and it's cooler.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 12 2013 22:01 GMT
#3500
I was maining adc for a while, until i started filling because it got so ridiculously hard to do any damage. The problem with adc's now is instead of going weak early -> decent mid -> strong late they go: weak early -> weak mid -> decent/strong late. The problem is how fucking cheap warmogs + sunfire is and how immortal it makes anyone with it. I'm so sick of adc'ing in season 3, it's no fun at all.
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