EPT[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 175
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red_
United States8474 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 13 2013 05:50 sob3k wrote: Except there are a lot of people who can basically instaclear from safe range. They dont have to blow ult either. Ziggs: Throw mines and a bomb Viktor: one lazer Xerath: Siege and 2 Q's Viktor only has 700 range on cast (and ~400 on the laser length) so it's easy to take potshots at him, or even just fire skillshots, while he has to get close to it (he actually doesn't have the range to clear the whole wave: he relies on the laser's movement speed and the minions moving toward it to do so). Ziggs on the other hand... | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:02 Ketara wrote: So what you're saying is Xerath sleeper OP? yes | ||
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UniversalSnip
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:06 red_ wrote: Xerath is much less safe in lane though, even though he has range he doesn't have the aoe slow+possibly double snare(although he does have his stun). Xerath is as safe in lane as you want, if you are scaredy cat you can just max W over E and never leave the sweet embrace of the tower. | ||
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xarchaosx
United States89 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:22 Keniji wrote: the real op thing about lux is her new skin. Can't see spells. FUCKING SERIOUSLY. How do you dodge what you cant see? I die like once every game to a lux with that skin simply because I cant see the shit. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
Anyway, that's beside the point of: How do I best carry these idiots on my back? #1) If I lane, I always win the lane. It's usually a substantial lead too. #2) If I jungle, it's a crapshoot. I've given lanes substantial leads with ganks, only to have them piss the advantage away by diving. People seem to think that being +1-3 kills means they can be risky and dive. Turrets do a shit ton of damage early-mid game, and it's just silly to see people waste everything. I also can't be everywhere at once, and multiple lanes will be floundering or overpushed such that I feel jungling is wasting my potential due to point #1. Any fotm junglers I'm missing out on here? #3) I cannot get people to dragon with me ever. Even the biggest freebie dragons ever. Herding cats is difficult. I can only type in caps so much. How do I convince them that free dragons are a good thing? I believe that the best way to carry these people, kicking and screaming to victory is to go AD and itemize for mid-game. I find that mid-game is the time to shine as people don't know how to win via attrition such that a late-game carry's power comes too late. Is my assessment correct? Any back-brace tips on how to carry these idiots? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/18ecfy/ogn_lol_off_the_record_ep_4_subtitled_kt_rolster/ | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:02 Ketara wrote: So what you're saying is Xerath sleeper OP? Even with Xerath's range, if enemy gap closers have vision of you, you are still getting dived.... the 2 spell stun isn't fast enough for a single spell gap close imo. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14146 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:29 nafta wrote: Very surprised riot hasn't changed that skin still.....But the real question is how did that go through testing....Are they blind or something? We assume that riot knows its a problem from them banning the skin from the lcs but there isn't an indicator past that for them changing it. . | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:29 Phunkapotamus wrote: So, I started my placement matches on an account that has never done ranked and they're seriously such a joke. It's almost insulting how people you get matched with are significantly worse than anyone I've met in normals since before the account even turned level 10. They should really take into consideration your normal ELO to some degree. Anyway, that's beside the point of: How do I best carry these idiots on my back? #1) If I lane, I always win the lane. It's usually a substantial lead too. #2) If I jungle, it's a crapshoot. I've given lanes substantial leads with ganks, only to have them piss the advantage away by diving. People seem to think that being +1-3 kills means they can be risky and dive. Turrets do a shit ton of damage early-mid game, and it's just silly to see people waste everything. I also can't be everywhere at once, and multiple lanes will be floundering or overpushed such that I feel jungling is wasting my potential due to point #1. Any fotm junglers I'm missing out on here? #3) I cannot get people to dragon with me ever. Even the biggest freebie dragons ever. Herding cats is difficult. I can only type in caps so much. How do I convince them that free dragons are a good thing? I believe that the best way to carry these people, kicking and screaming to victory is to go AD and itemize for mid-game. I find that mid-game is the time to shine as people don't know how to win via attrition such that a late-game carry's power comes too late. Is my assessment correct? Any back-brace tips on how to carry these idiots? Get Vi, just solo drag perfectly safely, if people come you just Q back out of the pit. Great clear speed and solid ganks too (really good after 6). Just play whatever you are best at and roam a lot after you win your lane. Trash talk your lane opponent and enemy jungle in allchat to try to get them to turn on each other. | ||
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Spaiku
Spain1114 Posts
Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me. But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved. | ||
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Shiv.
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:43 Yagami wrote: It's just me or is playing ad carry really frustrating right now? Feels like every game i'm giving a nice auto attack massage to a front line of immortal bruisers before they catch me and two shot me. But i can pick Kayle mid with no practice at all and go legendary or pick Olaf and become an unkillable split push machine with little skill involved. ADC have seemed to be much more binary recently, at least in my experience. They either kill everything or nothing, with absolutely no middle ground. Either they get 6 items and shred or they have 3 and get rolled. And that's just against the non-maxed bruisers. 2-3 items seems to be enough to prevent being killed by all but the strongest ADC. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 13 2013 06:48 Shiv. wrote: Why do so many AD carries start Doran's these days? Is it just to survive a possible all-in from an enemy Doran's start before the first back? I like longsword much better - faster Vamp and sustain in lane, but I am a crappy ADC and have no clue about bot laning. You can heal up the same as with longsword/2 pots pretty fast.Vamp early heals for very little compared to doran(unless you draven) and it's cooler. | ||
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IMoperator
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