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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On February 07 2013 12:26 Requizen wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 12:24 Ketara wrote: I'm interested in reignofgaming discussing the AD Carry defensive options. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23074-defensive-items-for-ad-carries Basically they're saying that the best single defensive items are Warmogs, Randuins or Mercurial Scimitar, and that Guardian Angel is bad. What do people think about this? Is Guardian Angel just a bad item now? Does anybody still want it? Aren't you in class? It's a class on TCP/IP. I'm doing "research" by connecting to TL.net. For "research" purposes. Tomorrow I'll be doing Linux systems administration and teaching myself to browse the internet on Redhat, by checking TL. Easiest life ever Req. | ||
HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Zizoz
United States232 Posts
On February 07 2013 12:24 Ketara wrote: I'm interested in reignofgaming discussing the AD Carry defensive options. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23074-defensive-items-for-ad-carries Basically they're saying that the best single defensive items are Warmogs, Randuins or Mercurial Scimitar, and that Guardian Angel is bad. What do people think about this? Is Guardian Angel just a bad item now? Does anybody still want it? I think they're being a bit too harsh on GA. Resistances scale better than health with lifesteal, which they fail to mention. Same with heals and shields from your allies. (They briefly mention Aegis as a reason to stack more health, while ignoring Locket having the reverse effect.) | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 07 2013 12:28 Arekan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 12:26 SgtSquiglz wrote: Im in as well with the same name. Damn, sOAZ is a steal in that league if you ask me.... Some of the values seem a little screwy. Judging by how they calculate it, everything should right itself in a few weeks, though. Yeah, once people start doing well their cost will increase. Which I partially don't like. One of my favorite things about fantasy for traditional sports is getting a diamond in the rough for cheap and then they have a breakout season. It's not ideal but it seems to be the best option as of now. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 07 2013 12:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 11:59 onlywonderboy wrote: Yo, you fools should come join our Fantasy League team for the LCS over at http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/ Name: Teamliquid.net PW: part=51 The more the merrier, should breed some interesting competition. I was wondering if TL was gonna get in on this. I'm in. Edit: Hmm...not working. Did you create your account and not check your e-mail? You have to confirm via e-mail before it lets you log in. | ||
red_
United States8474 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On February 07 2013 11:18 Sufficiency wrote: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23073-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-6-2013 More Nasus buffs ;P My dawggggg. Man, q critting from 50 extra range, yes please. | ||
red_
United States8474 Posts
Voy's comment when being told this: "Woah really? Man, I want my money back" (he was chuckling, not srs). | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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swim224
Botswana368 Posts
On February 07 2013 13:16 Seuss wrote: ![]() What. Lol, that happens to me all the time. I close the chat room and rejoin it. | ||
Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On February 07 2013 12:40 Zizoz wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 12:24 Ketara wrote: I'm interested in reignofgaming discussing the AD Carry defensive options. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23074-defensive-items-for-ad-carries Basically they're saying that the best single defensive items are Warmogs, Randuins or Mercurial Scimitar, and that Guardian Angel is bad. What do people think about this? Is Guardian Angel just a bad item now? Does anybody still want it? I think they're being a bit too harsh on GA. Resistances scale better than health with lifesteal, which they fail to mention. Same with heals and shields from your allies. (They briefly mention Aegis as a reason to stack more health, while ignoring Locket having the reverse effect.) While i think that Gustav's evaluations tend to be fairly poor in general (because they focus on DPS, which is generally a meaningless number) ignoring lifesteal works in this situation because the current meta has ADC's worried more about being burst down than being whittled down. Basically this means that we don't really care if you get more sustained lifesteal with a GA, because you're not going to get the time for that lifesteal to ever matter. It would be possible to look at situations in which the GA was better because of the lifesteal advantage but we would likely find that given the free passive regen on Warmogs these situations are few and far inbetween. E.G. Lets say you have 20% lifesteal and are in a fight. You've got 100 armor and MR and 2000 HP base before GA/Warmogs. With GA you have 150 armor and 130 MR, meaning that you get 25% more effective lifesteal than the dude with the warmogs. Lets say you do 300 after armor DPS and so regain 60 hp/second. The warmogs guy gets 120 EHP/second and the GA dude gets 150 EHP/second. GA has 5000 effective HP vs physical, warmogs has 6000 EHP vs physical. So in order for the lifesteal advantage from the GA to make it more effective than the warmogs the fight would have to last 33 seconds or more. This is assuming that warmogs provides no sustain during that time. If you're alive for 33 seconds auto attacking in a fight it doesn't matter what defensive item you've chosen, you've won the fight. | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On February 07 2013 13:49 Goumindong wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 12:40 Zizoz wrote: On February 07 2013 12:24 Ketara wrote: I'm interested in reignofgaming discussing the AD Carry defensive options. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23074-defensive-items-for-ad-carries Basically they're saying that the best single defensive items are Warmogs, Randuins or Mercurial Scimitar, and that Guardian Angel is bad. What do people think about this? Is Guardian Angel just a bad item now? Does anybody still want it? I think they're being a bit too harsh on GA. Resistances scale better than health with lifesteal, which they fail to mention. Same with heals and shields from your allies. (They briefly mention Aegis as a reason to stack more health, while ignoring Locket having the reverse effect.) While i think that Gustav's evaluations tend to be fairly poor in general (because they focus on DPS, which is generally a meaningless number) ignoring lifesteal works in this situation because the current meta has ADC's worried more about being burst down than being whittled down. Basically this means that we don't really care if you get more sustained lifesteal with a GA, because you're not going to get the time for that lifesteal to ever matter. It would be possible to look at situations in which the GA was better because of the lifesteal advantage but we would likely find that given the free passive regen on Warmogs these situations are few and far inbetween. E.G. Lets say you have 20% lifesteal and are in a fight. You've got 100 armor and MR and 2000 HP base before GA/Warmogs. With GA you have 150 armor and 130 MR, meaning that you get 25% more effective lifesteal than the dude with the warmogs. Lets say you do 300 after armor DPS and so regain 60 hp/second. The warmogs guy gets 120 EHP/second and the GA dude gets 150 EHP/second. GA has 5000 effective HP vs physical, warmogs has 6000 EHP vs physical. So in order for the lifesteal advantage from the GA to make it more effective than the warmogs the fight would have to last 33 seconds or more. This is assuming that warmogs provides no sustain during that time. If you're alive for 33 seconds auto attacking in a fight it doesn't matter what defensive item you've chosen, you've won the fight. And yet ironically Bloodthirster has seen a surge in popularity over Infinity Edge. | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 07 2013 14:14 Alzadar wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 13:49 Goumindong wrote: On February 07 2013 12:40 Zizoz wrote: On February 07 2013 12:24 Ketara wrote: I'm interested in reignofgaming discussing the AD Carry defensive options. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23074-defensive-items-for-ad-carries Basically they're saying that the best single defensive items are Warmogs, Randuins or Mercurial Scimitar, and that Guardian Angel is bad. What do people think about this? Is Guardian Angel just a bad item now? Does anybody still want it? I think they're being a bit too harsh on GA. Resistances scale better than health with lifesteal, which they fail to mention. Same with heals and shields from your allies. (They briefly mention Aegis as a reason to stack more health, while ignoring Locket having the reverse effect.) While i think that Gustav's evaluations tend to be fairly poor in general (because they focus on DPS, which is generally a meaningless number) ignoring lifesteal works in this situation because the current meta has ADC's worried more about being burst down than being whittled down. Basically this means that we don't really care if you get more sustained lifesteal with a GA, because you're not going to get the time for that lifesteal to ever matter. It would be possible to look at situations in which the GA was better because of the lifesteal advantage but we would likely find that given the free passive regen on Warmogs these situations are few and far inbetween. E.G. Lets say you have 20% lifesteal and are in a fight. You've got 100 armor and MR and 2000 HP base before GA/Warmogs. With GA you have 150 armor and 130 MR, meaning that you get 25% more effective lifesteal than the dude with the warmogs. Lets say you do 300 after armor DPS and so regain 60 hp/second. The warmogs guy gets 120 EHP/second and the GA dude gets 150 EHP/second. GA has 5000 effective HP vs physical, warmogs has 6000 EHP vs physical. So in order for the lifesteal advantage from the GA to make it more effective than the warmogs the fight would have to last 33 seconds or more. This is assuming that warmogs provides no sustain during that time. If you're alive for 33 seconds auto attacking in a fight it doesn't matter what defensive item you've chosen, you've won the fight. And yet ironically Bloodthirster has seen a surge in popularity over Infinity Edge. that's due to the fact that IE got nerfed a bit and BT got buffed. The build path into a BT is also much easier than IE. | ||
IMoperator
4476 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On February 07 2013 14:19 IMoperator wrote: quick what's a standard xin build? I just go warmogs first and idk if that's good brut warmogs FH sunfire locket in some order. +madreds if jungling. | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
On February 07 2013 14:14 Alzadar wrote: Show nested quote + On February 07 2013 13:49 Goumindong wrote: On February 07 2013 12:40 Zizoz wrote: On February 07 2013 12:24 Ketara wrote: I'm interested in reignofgaming discussing the AD Carry defensive options. http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23074-defensive-items-for-ad-carries Basically they're saying that the best single defensive items are Warmogs, Randuins or Mercurial Scimitar, and that Guardian Angel is bad. What do people think about this? Is Guardian Angel just a bad item now? Does anybody still want it? I think they're being a bit too harsh on GA. Resistances scale better than health with lifesteal, which they fail to mention. Same with heals and shields from your allies. (They briefly mention Aegis as a reason to stack more health, while ignoring Locket having the reverse effect.) While i think that Gustav's evaluations tend to be fairly poor in general (because they focus on DPS, which is generally a meaningless number) ignoring lifesteal works in this situation because the current meta has ADC's worried more about being burst down than being whittled down. Basically this means that we don't really care if you get more sustained lifesteal with a GA, because you're not going to get the time for that lifesteal to ever matter. It would be possible to look at situations in which the GA was better because of the lifesteal advantage but we would likely find that given the free passive regen on Warmogs these situations are few and far inbetween. E.G. Lets say you have 20% lifesteal and are in a fight. You've got 100 armor and MR and 2000 HP base before GA/Warmogs. With GA you have 150 armor and 130 MR, meaning that you get 25% more effective lifesteal than the dude with the warmogs. Lets say you do 300 after armor DPS and so regain 60 hp/second. The warmogs guy gets 120 EHP/second and the GA dude gets 150 EHP/second. GA has 5000 effective HP vs physical, warmogs has 6000 EHP vs physical. So in order for the lifesteal advantage from the GA to make it more effective than the warmogs the fight would have to last 33 seconds or more. This is assuming that warmogs provides no sustain during that time. If you're alive for 33 seconds auto attacking in a fight it doesn't matter what defensive item you've chosen, you've won the fight. And yet ironically Bloodthirster has seen a surge in popularity over Infinity Edge. That's mainly because vamp scepter builds out of longsword now, so if you build a vamp and then try to build IE it takes goddamned forever. So if you end up building a vamp then often it's just best to finish BT. | ||
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