• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:45
CEST 22:45
KST 05:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers23Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3198 users

[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 102

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 191 Next
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#2021
On February 06 2013 12:06 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 11:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 06 2013 11:49 cLutZ wrote:
On February 06 2013 11:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On February 06 2013 11:43 cLutZ wrote:
More Ashe utility could be a good thing. It would seem to play into Riot's seeming new direction for Ranged ADs where they each seem to be being differentiated more (although the Iceborne Gauntlet Change on PBE may suggest they don't want that at all).

Riot is as opinionated as the general player base. To them Ez is OP. And to them Iceborne is OP. I don't think they mind differentiating the ADC role, they just don't like things that are overpowered.


Yet they just lowered the IBG cost...while randomly raising the FH cost on PBE.

They lowered the cost of FH in one PBE patch and then brought it back up to the live price in the next PBE patch.

Edit: Still retained the +5 armor buff though.


Gah. Reading PBE changes makes me angry!

Anyways, I just played an Ashe game to test my whining. It was much less terrible than I remembered, at least vs. Graves. He just ran himself oom trying to push. Also, Nunu.

Yeah these last two came out really close to each other, it was really weird and the second one reverted or tweaked the changes that were in the first one.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
February 06 2013 03:13 GMT
#2022
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build
:-)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#2023
On February 06 2013 12:13 LeeDawg wrote:
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build

There was another PBE patch, it's up to 20% CDR now. So there's that.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23062-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-5-2013
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
February 06 2013 03:34 GMT
#2024
On February 06 2013 12:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:13 LeeDawg wrote:
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build

There was another PBE patch, it's up to 20% CDR now. So there's that.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23062-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-5-2013



holy shit really? omg. this changes everything. love you riot!
:-)
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 03:55:46
February 06 2013 03:55 GMT
#2025
On February 06 2013 12:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:13 LeeDawg wrote:
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build

There was another PBE patch, it's up to 20% CDR now. So there's that.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23062-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-5-2013


Loving the fact that Visage now gives 20% CDR instead of 15%. Now I can go visage on Ryze against a majorly AP team and not have to deal with being under CDR cap at 35%.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 06 2013 03:55 GMT
#2026
Stop overreacting to PBE changes, they don't mean anything until they make it to the actual game.
3.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 06 2013 04:00 GMT
#2027
On February 06 2013 12:55 Inschato wrote:
Stop overreacting to PBE changes, they don't mean anything until they make it to the actual game.


They are insight into the mind of Riot. They are, in fact, a better view into that window than the changes to the actual game, because when they do especially egregious PTR things they get smacked down.
Freeeeeeedom
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 06 2013 04:03 GMT
#2028
Yeah sure, but when you're like "oh my god yes!" when they flip/flop a CDR change they made to an item the day before, you might consider that one or the other was entirely accidental and not indicative of anything.
3.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 06 2013 04:06 GMT
#2029
On February 06 2013 12:55 Inschato wrote:
Stop overreacting to PBE changes, they don't mean anything until they make it to the actual game.

There's nothing wrong with discussing the changes on the PBE. None of us are calling for Riot's blood or anything. Some of the changes don't go through, but a fair amount of them do. There's no reason we should bar ourselves from discussing potential changes just because they aren't live. I agree sometimes people overreact and freak out about the changes, but this wasn't really one of those times, just a civil discussion.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#2030
Stop overreacting to my comment about overreacting.
3.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#2031
Remember the other day when I said the mechanics argument was the dumbest thing I have ever seen on this forum?

We have a new winner.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
February 06 2013 04:29 GMT
#2032
On February 06 2013 13:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Remember the other day when I said the mechanics argument was the dumbest thing I have ever seen on this forum?

We have a new winner.


What about the good old raw ad vs. armpen or GP10?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2013 04:33 GMT
#2033
HoG is a terrible item.
The legend of Darien lives on
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
February 06 2013 04:33 GMT
#2034
i haven't played much since s1, I play dota, so when I started playing because a friend asked me to I'm really out of date with any strategies, metagame, etc.

Are there any video series that are fairly recent that will go over generally what you need to know in the current meta (preferably at least 1 for lane 1 for jungle)?

Thanks
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
February 06 2013 04:37 GMT
#2035
2 br duoq's in a row
like how am i that unlucky
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2013 04:42 GMT
#2036
On February 06 2013 13:33 Arisen wrote:
i haven't played much since s1, I play dota, so when I started playing because a friend asked me to I'm really out of date with any strategies, metagame, etc.

Are there any video series that are fairly recent that will go over generally what you need to know in the current meta (preferably at least 1 for lane 1 for jungle)?

Thanks

Rush warmogs top, rush locket+aegis in the jungle.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 06 2013 04:51 GMT
#2037
They flipped the CDR of grail from 15 to 10, then up to 20, in a single day.

I wouldn't put too much money on what's going to happen to the grail CDR until I see official patch notes :<
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 06 2013 05:08 GMT
#2038
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17ze3n/kt_rolster_a_jungler_leaves_kt/

KT A Jungler leaves KT.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 05:11:16
February 06 2013 05:10 GMT
#2039
A couple of guys from my school team started playing 3s about a month ago without any prior experience. They found some OP nidalee + shaco combo and just now they became the first team the world to hit challenger.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
February 06 2013 05:11 GMT
#2040
Im curious on what people think about irelia in the current state of things. I feel while the blanket AS nerfs and health stacking hurt her but at the same time i feel like since shes irelia shes always going to have her place as a top lane go to
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 191 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#49
Solar vs ByuNLIVE!
Classic vs TBD
RotterdaM1085
TKL 450
IndyStarCraft 275
SteadfastSC273
BRAT_OK 137
EnkiAlexander 38
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1085
TKL 450
IndyStarCraft 275
SteadfastSC 266
BRAT_OK 131
JuggernautJason64
elazer 13
StarCraft: Brood War
910 23
NaDa 11
Dota 2
capcasts177
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps3050
Super Smash Bros
PPMD67
Mew2King55
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu375
Khaldor204
Other Games
summit1g7946
Grubby6366
C9.Mang0208
Sick206
KnowMe172
Pyrionflax115
UpATreeSC69
Trikslyr56
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream324
Other Games
BasetradeTV213
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 260
• Hupsaiya 31
• Adnapsc2 16
• Reevou 1
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 21
• FirePhoenix14
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2515
Other Games
• imaqtpie1703
• Scarra735
• Shiphtur278
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 15m
Replay Cast
12h 15m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 15m
Leta vs YSC
GSL
1d 12h
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.