• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:06
CET 16:06
KST 00:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Lost love spell caster in Spain +27 74 116 2667
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1438 users

[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 102

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 191 Next
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#2021
On February 06 2013 12:06 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 11:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 06 2013 11:49 cLutZ wrote:
On February 06 2013 11:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On February 06 2013 11:43 cLutZ wrote:
More Ashe utility could be a good thing. It would seem to play into Riot's seeming new direction for Ranged ADs where they each seem to be being differentiated more (although the Iceborne Gauntlet Change on PBE may suggest they don't want that at all).

Riot is as opinionated as the general player base. To them Ez is OP. And to them Iceborne is OP. I don't think they mind differentiating the ADC role, they just don't like things that are overpowered.


Yet they just lowered the IBG cost...while randomly raising the FH cost on PBE.

They lowered the cost of FH in one PBE patch and then brought it back up to the live price in the next PBE patch.

Edit: Still retained the +5 armor buff though.


Gah. Reading PBE changes makes me angry!

Anyways, I just played an Ashe game to test my whining. It was much less terrible than I remembered, at least vs. Graves. He just ran himself oom trying to push. Also, Nunu.

Yeah these last two came out really close to each other, it was really weird and the second one reverted or tweaked the changes that were in the first one.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
February 06 2013 03:13 GMT
#2022
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build
:-)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 06 2013 03:16 GMT
#2023
On February 06 2013 12:13 LeeDawg wrote:
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build

There was another PBE patch, it's up to 20% CDR now. So there's that.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23062-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-5-2013
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
February 06 2013 03:34 GMT
#2024
On February 06 2013 12:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:13 LeeDawg wrote:
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build

There was another PBE patch, it's up to 20% CDR now. So there's that.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23062-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-5-2013



holy shit really? omg. this changes everything. love you riot!
:-)
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 03:55:46
February 06 2013 03:55 GMT
#2025
On February 06 2013 12:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 12:13 LeeDawg wrote:
sad about the grail changes... it's one of my favorite items atm, but 5% cdr reduction really fucks with my support lux build

There was another PBE patch, it's up to 20% CDR now. So there's that.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23062-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-5-2013


Loving the fact that Visage now gives 20% CDR instead of 15%. Now I can go visage on Ryze against a majorly AP team and not have to deal with being under CDR cap at 35%.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 06 2013 03:55 GMT
#2026
Stop overreacting to PBE changes, they don't mean anything until they make it to the actual game.
3.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 06 2013 04:00 GMT
#2027
On February 06 2013 12:55 Inschato wrote:
Stop overreacting to PBE changes, they don't mean anything until they make it to the actual game.


They are insight into the mind of Riot. They are, in fact, a better view into that window than the changes to the actual game, because when they do especially egregious PTR things they get smacked down.
Freeeeeeedom
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 06 2013 04:03 GMT
#2028
Yeah sure, but when you're like "oh my god yes!" when they flip/flop a CDR change they made to an item the day before, you might consider that one or the other was entirely accidental and not indicative of anything.
3.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 06 2013 04:06 GMT
#2029
On February 06 2013 12:55 Inschato wrote:
Stop overreacting to PBE changes, they don't mean anything until they make it to the actual game.

There's nothing wrong with discussing the changes on the PBE. None of us are calling for Riot's blood or anything. Some of the changes don't go through, but a fair amount of them do. There's no reason we should bar ourselves from discussing potential changes just because they aren't live. I agree sometimes people overreact and freak out about the changes, but this wasn't really one of those times, just a civil discussion.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
February 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#2030
Stop overreacting to my comment about overreacting.
3.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#2031
Remember the other day when I said the mechanics argument was the dumbest thing I have ever seen on this forum?

We have a new winner.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
February 06 2013 04:29 GMT
#2032
On February 06 2013 13:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Remember the other day when I said the mechanics argument was the dumbest thing I have ever seen on this forum?

We have a new winner.


What about the good old raw ad vs. armpen or GP10?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 06 2013 04:33 GMT
#2033
HoG is a terrible item.
The legend of Darien lives on
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
February 06 2013 04:33 GMT
#2034
i haven't played much since s1, I play dota, so when I started playing because a friend asked me to I'm really out of date with any strategies, metagame, etc.

Are there any video series that are fairly recent that will go over generally what you need to know in the current meta (preferably at least 1 for lane 1 for jungle)?

Thanks
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
February 06 2013 04:37 GMT
#2035
2 br duoq's in a row
like how am i that unlucky
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 06 2013 04:42 GMT
#2036
On February 06 2013 13:33 Arisen wrote:
i haven't played much since s1, I play dota, so when I started playing because a friend asked me to I'm really out of date with any strategies, metagame, etc.

Are there any video series that are fairly recent that will go over generally what you need to know in the current meta (preferably at least 1 for lane 1 for jungle)?

Thanks

Rush warmogs top, rush locket+aegis in the jungle.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
February 06 2013 04:51 GMT
#2037
They flipped the CDR of grail from 15 to 10, then up to 20, in a single day.

I wouldn't put too much money on what's going to happen to the grail CDR until I see official patch notes :<
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 06 2013 05:08 GMT
#2038
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17ze3n/kt_rolster_a_jungler_leaves_kt/

KT A Jungler leaves KT.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 05:11:16
February 06 2013 05:10 GMT
#2039
A couple of guys from my school team started playing 3s about a month ago without any prior experience. They found some OP nidalee + shaco combo and just now they became the first team the world to hit challenger.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
February 06 2013 05:11 GMT
#2040
Im curious on what people think about irelia in the current state of things. I feel while the blanket AS nerfs and health stacking hurt her but at the same time i feel like since shes irelia shes always going to have her place as a top lane go to
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 191 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
14:00
#71
WardiTV3953
Rex130
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 210
ProTech133
Rex 130
gerald23 40
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3730
Jaedong 1449
Flash 1437
Larva 832
BeSt 608
Mini 592
Light 549
Hyuk 503
Soma 445
ZerO 440
[ Show more ]
Stork 350
ggaemo 267
Snow 256
firebathero 240
Soulkey 221
actioN 172
Shuttle 167
Mind 143
Barracks 137
Rush 132
Sharp 107
Zeus 87
PianO 73
[sc1f]eonzerg 65
Sea.KH 62
Free 56
yabsab 46
JYJ 46
Mong 35
ToSsGirL 26
Shinee 26
sorry 25
soO 21
scan(afreeca) 20
HiyA 19
Terrorterran 19
Rock 18
Bale 17
GoRush 13
ivOry 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Dota 2
Gorgc5346
singsing2852
qojqva1879
Dendi551
420jenkins439
Fuzer 242
syndereN182
Counter-Strike
kennyS3800
byalli902
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King108
Other Games
hiko758
crisheroes249
Hui .237
ToD232
Pyrionflax219
ZerO(Twitch)28
Chillindude18
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 524
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 12
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV351
League of Legends
• TFBlade1821
• Jankos1798
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 54m
OSC
8h 54m
Replay Cast
17h 54m
RongYI Cup
19h 54m
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
22h 54m
Replay Cast
1d 17h
RongYI Cup
1d 19h
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.