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On January 21 2013 09:14 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 08:38 Alaric wrote:On January 21 2013 08:19 samthesaluki wrote:
TL hang your head in shame nobody noticed viktor buffs also so many awesome skins coming out = me being poor It's a rewording. The shield already works on damage done before applying reduction, they just make it clearer (and easier to know rather than having to calculate yourself). Tooltip clarification. Regarding Black Cleaver, I'm still torn about the very concept of the item: you can't make it apply reduction from the first hit onward because then it can be a mostly utility item, that even an AP carry or support could build just to help his team, but the more stacks it has to apply, the less it works with champions/kits relying on burst damage in a few instances. Rescaling for a higher number of stacks tips it more toward the prolonged trades in lane, and makes stuff like Sivir's Q less of a shredding wonder. On the other hand Talon's bread-and-butter harass combo (and finisher) are weaker, same with Panth's HSS or Kha'Zix, while not affecting Bullet Time or Riven's trades too much because 4 or 5 max stacks when you're inflicting 8+ instances of damage isn't a lot. Edit: Sightstone now built from a ruby crystal, this is why the price for the stone itself was reduced.
The new item "Plate of the warmage" is built from 2 cloth armors and a Amplifying Tome
Zhonya's Hourglass now requires the "Plate of the Warmage" instead of chain vest Sightstone actually nerfed. Zhonya's buildpath smoother but it's actually worse if you used to build your chainvest in one go. Buff to the "aggressive" approach that doesn't want to sacrifice early damage, nerf to the "safe" approach. As for my own case and playstyle I dislike it. More importantly, you can now start Cloth+5 on most AP characters.
Which I never do, so it irks me, especially the "stack it" clause that means I'll have to get that cloth rather early if I want to achieve ~40 armor at the timing where I'll have chain vest usually (against an AD lane it'd prob be RoA->boots->chainvest on Swain, or after Cata if threatened, after augment and boots on Viktor, and after chalice on Orianna/Syndra, so it definitely fucks up my core builds by either giving me 25 less armor when I have 720 to spend, or delaying my core just not to have less armour than currently at the same timing).
It's a fucking big constraint if you don't start cloth+5 and it skews the openings very heavily, especially for "expensive" core champs (say, Viktor or anybody building a catalyst).
tl;dr: This change actually severely limits my options and I don't like it because of that.
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Baa?21247 Posts
I won't say no to AP buffs, but you could've started cloth 5 anyways lol there was no rule saying you couldn't just buy a cloth and not build it into anything, you're investing 300g into a laning item ~_~
On an unrelated note:
Nothing new, but the inability/intolerance by the majority of the LoL population to anything that's not part of a strict meta gets irritating at times lol. Just want to play some ADC mid and I get like 3-4 dodges on a row on average, be it ranked or normals 
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On January 21 2013 09:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:I won't say no to AP buffs, but you could've started cloth 5 anyways lol there was no rule saying you couldn't just buy a cloth and not build it into anything, you're investing 300g into a laning item ~_~ On an unrelated note: Nothing new, but the inability/intolerance by the majority of the LoL population to anything that's not part of a strict meta gets irritating at times lol. Just want to play some ADC mid and I get like 3-4 dodges on a row on average, be it ranked or normals
You would not believe how often I get called a troll for offering to 1v2 as Jayce. "That's not a real thing you troll!"
God I am in love with J4 as a jungler. What a f-ing beast. Last 6 games with him: 4/1/14, 7/4/17, 8/2/14, 4/6/30, 8/0/17, and 4/0/25. My god he is so versatile.
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Please don't play Caitlyn mid. That is just so annoying to face  .
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Galio is going to be so broken against double ap shit with a 5 second q he's already pretty strong even against physical laners he's OK
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United States23745 Posts
Yeah, Blitz and Ez nerfs are probably too harsh. Although other then that I don't have too much issue with this patch, but maybe that's because I don't like Shaco. Sightstone change is interesting, a nerf overall but being able to buy a ruby crystal if you back but don't have 700g will be nice.
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It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.
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United States23745 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:45 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.
I do not welcome the return of Alistar, I liked not having to waste a ban on him. I just don't like dealing with his absurd CC.
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On January 21 2013 09:45 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.
what item build works best with him in s3? still q max?
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On January 21 2013 09:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Galio is going to be so broken against double ap shit with a 5 second q he's already pretty strong even against physical laners he's OK
it's a straight-up hotshotgg buff and nothing else lol
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
An even bigger buff to CLG if Chauster teaches Aphro how to play Support Galio or Jiji/HSGG teaches Link.
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"Plate of the Warmage
+30 Armor +25 Ability Power
UNIQUE Passive: Killing a unit grants 0.5 bonus Armor and Ability Power. This bonus stacks up to 30 times."
rofl rip garen,riven,renek top
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On January 21 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:45 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes. I do not welcome the return of Alistar, I liked not having to waste a ban on him. I just don't like dealing with his absurd CC.
You can deal with him, especially with champs getting wards at level 1, and explorer wards.
But you can't deal with the retardedness of players crying for "he ganked 5 times!" (replace with 6, then 7 as the dude keeps dying under enemy turret) when they ward a single path (which is obviously never used) and proceed to push.
I want a universal translator for "Don't push/Be careful, Alistar will almost only gank". English seems to never cut it, and his ganks are even easier than Shaco's. :<
I'm at 4 dodges in a row, trying for a record. And the bastards are starting to ban Viktor, how can I gather material for the flask start on him then? :[
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On January 21 2013 10:08 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 09:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Galio is going to be so broken against double ap shit with a 5 second q he's already pretty strong even against physical laners he's OK it's a straight-up hotshotgg buff and nothing else lol
Misaya was actually saying that Galio could be pretty damn good at the start of S3.
It's possible that he will start seeing a lot of play if this goes through.
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With magic pen being better overall(flat and %) I think its best to use mpen reds/quints and rush mpen items like sorc shoes and/or haunting guise into cap/void.
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play solo queue shitfaced, get new high elo
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On January 21 2013 10:28 ReachTheSky wrote:With magic pen being better overall(flat and %) I think its best to use mpen reds/quints and rush mpen items like sorc shoes and/or haunting guise into cap/void.
yeah but this math says you should be going void definitly first and then have sorc guise. warmogs I guess on anyone who isn't zerath and then a hat.
and yeah Steel legion definitely looks like a reference artistically at least to space marines.
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master yi and shaco nerfs lmfao. dis game
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