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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 00:26:17
January 21 2013 00:25 GMT
#1341
On January 21 2013 09:14 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 08:38 Alaric wrote:
On January 21 2013 08:19 samthesaluki wrote:
TL hang your head in shame nobody noticed viktor buffs also so many awesome skins coming out = me being poor

It's a rewording. The shield already works on damage done before applying reduction, they just make it clearer (and easier to know rather than having to calculate yourself). Tooltip clarification.

Regarding Black Cleaver, I'm still torn about the very concept of the item: you can't make it apply reduction from the first hit onward because then it can be a mostly utility item, that even an AP carry or support could build just to help his team, but the more stacks it has to apply, the less it works with champions/kits relying on burst damage in a few instances.
Rescaling for a higher number of stacks tips it more toward the prolonged trades in lane, and makes stuff like Sivir's Q less of a shredding wonder. On the other hand Talon's bread-and-butter harass combo (and finisher) are weaker, same with Panth's HSS or Kha'Zix, while not affecting Bullet Time or Riven's trades too much because 4 or 5 max stacks when you're inflicting 8+ instances of damage isn't a lot.

Edit:
Sightstone now built from a ruby crystal, this is why the price for the stone itself was reduced.
The new item "Plate of the warmage" is built from 2 cloth armors and a Amplifying Tome
Zhonya's Hourglass now requires the "Plate of the Warmage" instead of chain vest

Sightstone actually nerfed.
Zhonya's buildpath smoother but it's actually worse if you used to build your chainvest in one go. Buff to the "aggressive" approach that doesn't want to sacrifice early damage, nerf to the "safe" approach. As for my own case and playstyle I dislike it.

More importantly, you can now start Cloth+5 on most AP characters.

Which I never do, so it irks me, especially the "stack it" clause that means I'll have to get that cloth rather early if I want to achieve ~40 armor at the timing where I'll have chain vest usually (against an AD lane it'd prob be RoA->boots->chainvest on Swain, or after Cata if threatened, after augment and boots on Viktor, and after chalice on Orianna/Syndra, so it definitely fucks up my core builds by either giving me 25 less armor when I have 720 to spend, or delaying my core just not to have less armour than currently at the same timing).

It's a fucking big constraint if you don't start cloth+5 and it skews the openings very heavily, especially for "expensive" core champs (say, Viktor or anybody building a catalyst).
tl;dr: This change actually severely limits my options and I don't like it because of that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 00:29:22
January 21 2013 00:27 GMT
#1342
I won't say no to AP buffs, but you could've started cloth 5 anyways lol there was no rule saying you couldn't just buy a cloth and not build it into anything, you're investing 300g into a laning item ~_~

On an unrelated note:

Nothing new, but the inability/intolerance by the majority of the LoL population to anything that's not part of a strict meta gets irritating at times lol. Just want to play some ADC mid and I get like 3-4 dodges on a row on average, be it ranked or normals
TranslatorBaa!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 21 2013 00:36 GMT
#1343
On January 21 2013 09:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I won't say no to AP buffs, but you could've started cloth 5 anyways lol there was no rule saying you couldn't just buy a cloth and not build it into anything, you're investing 300g into a laning item ~_~

On an unrelated note:

Nothing new, but the inability/intolerance by the majority of the LoL population to anything that's not part of a strict meta gets irritating at times lol. Just want to play some ADC mid and I get like 3-4 dodges on a row on average, be it ranked or normals


You would not believe how often I get called a troll for offering to 1v2 as Jayce. "That's not a real thing you troll!"

God I am in love with J4 as a jungler. What a f-ing beast. Last 6 games with him: 4/1/14, 7/4/17, 8/2/14, 4/6/30, 8/0/17, and 4/0/25. My god he is so versatile.
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
January 21 2013 00:36 GMT
#1344
Please don't play Caitlyn mid. That is just so annoying to face .
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 21 2013 00:40 GMT
#1345
Galio is going to be so broken against double ap shit with a 5 second q he's already pretty strong even against physical laners he's OK
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 21 2013 00:44 GMT
#1346
Yeah, Blitz and Ez nerfs are probably too harsh. Although other then that I don't have too much issue with this patch, but maybe that's because I don't like Shaco. Sightstone change is interesting, a nerf overall but being able to buy a ruby crystal if you back but don't have 700g will be nice.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 21 2013 00:45 GMT
#1347
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 21 2013 00:46 GMT
#1348
On January 21 2013 09:45 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.

I do not welcome the return of Alistar, I liked not having to waste a ban on him. I just don't like dealing with his absurd CC.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cDgCornpops
Profile Joined April 2011
62 Posts
January 21 2013 00:53 GMT
#1349
On January 21 2013 09:45 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.


what item build works best with him in s3? still q max?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#1350
On January 21 2013 09:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Galio is going to be so broken against double ap shit with a 5 second q he's already pretty strong even against physical laners he's OK


it's a straight-up hotshotgg buff and nothing else lol
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 01:14:42
January 21 2013 01:14 GMT
#1351
An even bigger buff to CLG if Chauster teaches Aphro how to play Support Galio or Jiji/HSGG teaches Link.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#1352
"Plate of the Warmage

+30 Armor +25 Ability Power

UNIQUE Passive: Killing a unit grants 0.5 bonus Armor and Ability Power. This bonus stacks up to 30 times."

rofl rip garen,riven,renek top
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 01:24:26
January 21 2013 01:20 GMT
#1353
On January 21 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:45 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, people are playing Alistar jungle again and the only wards I see are tribrush top (from pushing Elise) and mine as a support. He got like 6 kills top and mid in 15 minutes.

I do not welcome the return of Alistar, I liked not having to waste a ban on him. I just don't like dealing with his absurd CC.

You can deal with him, especially with champs getting wards at level 1, and explorer wards.
But you can't deal with the retardedness of players crying for "he ganked 5 times!" (replace with 6, then 7 as the dude keeps dying under enemy turret) when they ward a single path (which is obviously never used) and proceed to push.

I want a universal translator for "Don't push/Be careful, Alistar will almost only gank". English seems to never cut it, and his ganks are even easier than Shaco's. :<

I'm at 4 dodges in a row, trying for a record. And the bastards are starting to ban Viktor, how can I gather material for the flask start on him then? :[
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14113 Posts
January 21 2013 01:23 GMT
#1354
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16xpd4/armor_shred_azubu_frost_vs_gambit_example/c80d4qz

Is this guys math legit? It seems to be that a void staff doesn't fractionaly less damage then a hat now on 90 and lower mr champs. Having sorcs magpen runes and guise drops that number signifigantly. A void also scales better with ap and against people building more mr.

Does this mean that we should be void staff rushing from nw on?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#1355
On January 21 2013 10:08 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Galio is going to be so broken against double ap shit with a 5 second q he's already pretty strong even against physical laners he's OK


it's a straight-up hotshotgg buff and nothing else lol

Misaya was actually saying that Galio could be pretty damn good at the start of S3.

It's possible that he will start seeing a lot of play if this goes through.
Moderator
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#1356
On January 21 2013 10:23 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16xpd4/armor_shred_azubu_frost_vs_gambit_example/c80d4qz

Is this guys math legit? It seems to be that a void staff doesn't fractionaly less damage then a hat now on 90 and lower mr champs. Having sorcs magpen runes and guise drops that number signifigantly. A void also scales better with ap and against people building more mr.

Does this mean that we should be void staff rushing from nw on?


With magic pen being better overall(flat and %) I think its best to use mpen reds/quints and rush mpen items like sorc shoes and/or haunting guise into cap/void.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2013 01:40 GMT
#1357
play solo queue shitfaced, get new high elo
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 01:53:34
January 21 2013 01:52 GMT
#1358
New Garen skin

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


First thing that came to mind was FOR THE EMPEROR
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 01:53:31
January 21 2013 01:52 GMT
#1359
On January 21 2013 10:28 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 10:23 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16xpd4/armor_shred_azubu_frost_vs_gambit_example/c80d4qz

Is this guys math legit? It seems to be that a void staff doesn't fractionaly less damage then a hat now on 90 and lower mr champs. Having sorcs magpen runes and guise drops that number signifigantly. A void also scales better with ap and against people building more mr.

Does this mean that we should be void staff rushing from nw on?


With magic pen being better overall(flat and %) I think its best to use mpen reds/quints and rush mpen items like sorc shoes and/or haunting guise into cap/void.

yeah but this math says you should be going void definitly first and then have sorc guise. warmogs I guess on anyone who isn't zerath and then a hat.

and yeah Steel legion definitely looks like a reference artistically at least to space marines.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 21 2013 01:55 GMT
#1360
master yi and shaco nerfs lmfao. dis game
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