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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 20 2013 09:24 OutlaW- wrote: Except you can't because of all the justice freaks and punish-spammers on the tribunal. My solution was to make a smurf for trolling/raging I feel like trying to abstain from tolling/raging would be just as effective. | ||
Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Olaf/Hecarim/Leona/Ezreal/Karthus vs Shen/Shyvana/Nautilus/Tristana/TF. Tristana actually did better in fights before she sold her mallet for her last item (BT or IE, can't remember, she had the other as the first item) because she lived longer. Since she had a scimitar as a second defensive item, more food for us believers.  Shyvana was never truly a threat, but her mallet did better before she replaced it with tiamat too. We had 14 belts across both teams that game, and only 4 kindlegem-based items, surprisingly (2 on me, I'd have had a 3rd with Shurelya but then I noticed how Shen would kill me in the long run from magic damage and sunfire, and decided I'd buy BC if I had the time). I guess the conclusion is... playing as Olaf makes you works on timing, and sucks a lot, when you're against tanky team that'll last longer than your ult and have 3 mallets. :[ Oh, yeah, and Karthus and I had teleport too. Global presence everywhere. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 20 2013 09:24 OutlaW- wrote: Except you can't because of all the justice freaks and punish-spammers on the tribunal. My solution was to make a smurf for trolling/raging On that note, I haven't been banned in 2 weeks. I'm beginning to feel pretty scared. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 20 2013 10:01 onlywonderboy wrote: I feel like trying to abstain from tolling/raging would be just as effective. Rage is natural. My opinions can be controversial sometimes and this might be one of them, but I don't think people should suppress rage (as long as it has some kind of meaning, or if it's caused by ''legitimate'' reasons) When I say that, and when you read my previous post, it might make me look like a childish rager, but I'm not really talking about that. I don't rage at people for being bad, I've made mistakes in the past but so has everyone. They helped grow and shape me. I also don't want to have a chain on my neck, however, preventing me from venting my emotions (whether it be passion, rage, lust, love). That's simply not the person I am, and I don't care that other people (including Riot) don't want to see that. Again, this doesn't show me in a good light, but I don't think what I'm doing is evil. Even if it were, it's who I would be, and I wouldn't change myself to cater to others (that's not the person I am, however) You certainly have an opinion on this because raging and acting like a loser (whining, etc..) is a real problem in the community and one everyone has encountered several times at least. I will simply have to believe that you will trust me that that behavior is not what I'm advocating, but letting go in League is much better than in real life. I'm in a big ''don't want to be chained by society and just be myself" phase. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
If you're fine with being alone forever and raging at people in games that's cool. You have that right. But controlling your anger isn't about denying who you are it's about not being a fucking dick to those around you. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Edit: who is dis overt guy... get out of my headddd. G_G | ||
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
On January 20 2013 10:39 overt wrote: Raging/getting angry is fine. Because everyone gets angry. But how you handle that is entirely different. If you can't play a fucking video game without raging at people you should probably take some anger management course somewhere. If you can't control your anger in a video game I don't know how you expect to control your anger in a relationship, or around your friends, or at your place of work. If you're fine with being alone forever and raging at people in games that's cool. You have that right. But controlling your anger isn't about denying who you are it's about not being a fucking dick to those around you. That's not a valid comparison at all. The way you vent frustration in videogames versus in your personal, real relationships is completely different. The most major point being that you have ways to vent frustrations in real life by talking with people who respect and listen to you. In a videogame, you get 0 respect for your emotions/ideas and that compounds your frustration. The only effective means of venting frustration to others in solo q you have is to rage in chat. That's why many people rage less when streaming/in vent with others. You have an audience that can respect and listen to your frustrations. The holier than thou, "if you get angry over a videogame you have problems blah blah" reasoning is absurd. If YOU never raged at anyone over a videogame, than you are a psychopath. How's that for stupid mental health generalizations? | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
And don't ever rage at someone for losing their lane. Chances are their opponent is legitimately a lot better than them, not their fault. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On January 20 2013 10:47 TheLink wrote: Shikyo Memorial is all I've ever needed for rage. Felt remarkably calm every time. And don't ever rage at someone for losing their lane. Chances are their opponent is legitimately a lot better than them, not their fault. Nothing has ever given me more release then going to the qq thread and just red mist inducing rage pouring out on fast poorly written text. Rageing in game just shows a lack of character. You need to control your frustration and anger just like any other emotion. It doesn't matter how many ways you think about it your a better person and player if you can control your rage and use it in a way thats actualy constructive instead of being a toxic presnse in game. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 20 2013 10:46 LaM wrote: That's not a valid comparison at all. The way you vent frustration in videogames versus in your personal, real relationships is completely different. The most major point being that you have ways to vent frustrations in real life by talking with people who respect and listen to you. In a videogame, you get 0 respect for your emotions/ideas and that compounds your frustration. The only effective means of venting frustration to others in solo q you have is to rage in chat. That's why many people rage less when streaming/in vent with others. You have an audience that can respect and listen to your frustrations. The holier than thou, "if you get angry over a videogame you have problems blah blah" reasoning is absurd. If YOU never raged at anyone over a videogame, than you are a psychopath. How's that for stupid mental health generalizations? It's a pretty fair comparison. If you're someone who rages a lot in video games then you have an anger problem. I'm pretty much certain that any psychologist would agree with me. You can sugar coat it or dress it up all you want but if you're continually getting banned in League because you're raging at people too often then you have a problem. Of course I've raged at people in games but it's not something that happens very often. Even when I get angry or frustrated by something (whether it's my own bad play or a teammate's play) I can almost always control myself and not rage in chat. I think most people are like that. Because in my average game I usually have at most 1-2 ragers. Once again, getting angry isn't the problem. It's the act of raging and yelling at people over a video game that is. If you control your anger by being a dick to people then yes, you have issues you need to work through. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
It's not only about having people to listen to you, it's also about having people hearing/reading you. When you're with a bunch of friends, you don't want to piss them off (well, you could argue that not wanting that is as much caring about them staying happy as not wanting them to leave you). | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On January 20 2013 10:46 LaM wrote: That's not a valid comparison at all. The way you vent frustration in videogames versus in your personal, real relationships is completely different. The most major point being that you have ways to vent frustrations in real life by talking with people who respect and listen to you. In a videogame, you get 0 respect for your emotions/ideas and that compounds your frustration. The only effective means of venting frustration to others in solo q you have is to rage in chat. That's why many people rage less when streaming/in vent with others. You have an audience that can respect and listen to your frustrations. The holier than thou, "if you get angry over a videogame you have problems blah blah" reasoning is absurd. If YOU never raged at anyone over a videogame, than you are a psychopath. How's that for stupid mental health generalizations? overt is probably taking it a bit far but I'm with him. It's completely archaic to me for someone to rage about a game. It totally bring to mind an image of those kiddies that play on XBox Live. Someone who's young, juvenile, and totally incapable of self-control. 9 times out of 10, the rage I see someone talking about on TL is because a teammate plays poorly. I don't find that rage inducing at all. Getting bad players on your team is part of a team game. Otherwise, don't solo q, just find friends to play normal/ranked 5s with. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
np outlaw, anything for a buddy. also, the whole venting thing, it doesn't help. I think there was some study about it? People who try to "vent" rage end up angrier than those who "cool off". The reason to "vent" is self validation and to make you feel good, as far as I can see. I'm a pretty calm person so it's probably easier for me, or maybe because I tell myself I'm a calm person, who knows. I mean, it feels a lot better to talk back to random ragers in solo queue but you start to believe what you're saying because it's partially true, meanwhile saying "sorry im bad" makes you focus more on your mistakes which is good for getting better. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On January 20 2013 10:08 Gahlo wrote: Aw yeah, Smash rocking the P on stream. =] WHAT?!?!? | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Some games are just infuriating. It's a bit over the top to expect people to not get angry just because it's a "video game". People get angry, the real question is how you deal with this anger. There are healthy ways of dealing with it, and there are unhealthy ways of dealing with it. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:00 OutlaW- wrote: I do not hate many things, but I do hate people who scoff and act ''holier than thou'' on me just because I said on a board that I don't want to be chained by society. Why are you judging me so hard, are you projecting? I see no reason to call me a weak person (''lack of character"). Just because I'm advocating letting go and being yourself means that you can't see how I can have friends, a relationship, work-friends? Maybe you don't know that because you don't fully understand what I'm saying. Whatever. I will not continue a discussion with somebody who calls me a ''fucking dick'' without ever having played with me. I'm a little disappointed that posting my opinion created such an insulting response. Not to mention that you're all assuming that I'm raging at people who play bad DESPITE me saying that that's not the case at all. You say that people shouldn't rage and be dicks but you're fine with being a dick towards me. Every person has their faults, but not accepting them for what they are sounds like immaturity to me, as well. Raging is the same thing as acting like a fucking dick. If you're raging at people you're being a huge asshole to whoever you're raging at. You even said in your post that your position paints you in a bad light so I'm not sure what you were expecting? I'm sure you're a cool dude. But rather than look at how you behave in game (which is negatively) and attempt to fix it you tried to rationalize it and play the victim card. Didn't mean to offend you, I will leave you be now since you don't wish to discuss this any further. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:03 Slayer91 wrote: I mean, it feels a lot better to talk back to random ragers in solo queue but you start to believe what you're saying because it's partially true, meanwhile saying "sorry im bad" makes you focus more on your mistakes which is good for getting better. I failed so much stuff last game and my teammates were so silent that the chat must have been only "ss", "shop", timers for objectives and teleports, and me saying multiples times "my bad" and what I fucked up this one. Then you feel guilty 'cause they prob find it annoying. :< | ||
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