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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 04:31:59
January 31 2013 04:31 GMT
#4101
On January 31 2013 13:27 GTR wrote:
With Runaan's Hurricane, who's it best used on? Was thinking ADC's but wouldn't it just be better to get a Phantom Dancer? Also, how does Tiamat/Ravenous Hydra apply to Kayle's E (if it does?).


Varus imo. In pretty much every aspect, PD outclasses Hurricane. I think they need to lower the Hurricane price to make it comparable to not even PD but Shiv.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Kayle/Ability_Details
Scroll down to Righteous Fury.

Edit: Teemo is probably best with Hurricane but I don't really count him as ADC. ;_;
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TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
January 31 2013 04:34 GMT
#4102
Whoah TSM just got wrecked by CRS.
GGs
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 04:37:27
January 31 2013 04:35 GMT
#4103
On January 31 2013 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:06 Amui wrote:
Hmm according to Doa, OGN finals venue is 8500? seats and sold out in 45 min. Not too shabby.


8500 people, I have a hard time visualizing that. How does that compare to those epic BW audience pictures?


The proleague finals on the beach have, I believe, 40k-60k audience depending on estimates?

This Ars Technica articles says 50k for 06 finals http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/03/the-dawn-of-starcraft-e-sports-come-to-the-world-stage/

OSL/MSL finals were usually limited by stadium capacity depending on what venue they used.

(500 people virtual audience NATE NEVER FORGET ;_;)
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Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
January 31 2013 04:36 GMT
#4104
Dam, Crs looking strong in teamfight

And TSM looking really out of form tbh....
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 31 2013 04:37 GMT
#4105
On January 31 2013 13:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:06 Amui wrote:
Hmm according to Doa, OGN finals venue is 8500? seats and sold out in 45 min. Not too shabby.


8500 people, I have a hard time visualizing that. How does that compare to those epic BW audience pictures?


The proleague finals on the beach have, I believe, 40k-60k audience depending on estimates?

This Ars Technica articles says 50k for 06 finals http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/03/the-dawn-of-starcraft-e-sports-come-to-the-world-stage/

Wow, so like, Starcraft is really big in Korea eh? Hockey games in DC have like 15k
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
January 31 2013 04:39 GMT
#4106
On January 31 2013 11:42 Amethyst21 wrote:
Since today apparently.
Salce is good if he practices and people prevent him from picking stupid champs that don't fit the teamcomp. Westrice...I hate to say it but it's been proven pretty comprehensively that the dude is not a professional level LoL player. Limited champion pool, tilts easily, etc...

didn't nhat come out and say straight up that when they were on tsm.evo they practiced super hard every day and the salce not practicing was just a terrible internet rumor?


amazing how those things stay alive
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 31 2013 04:39 GMT
#4107
On January 31 2013 13:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:06 Amui wrote:
Hmm according to Doa, OGN finals venue is 8500? seats and sold out in 45 min. Not too shabby.


8500 people, I have a hard time visualizing that. How does that compare to those epic BW audience pictures?


The proleague finals on the beach have, I believe, 40k-60k audience depending on estimates?

This Ars Technica articles says 50k for 06 finals http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/03/the-dawn-of-starcraft-e-sports-come-to-the-world-stage/

OSL/MSL finals were usually limited by stadium capacity depending on what venue they used.

(500 people virtual audience NATE NEVER FORGET ;_;)


Thanks for the numbers.
8500 sounds pretty small in comparison. o.o;
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 31 2013 04:40 GMT
#4108
On January 31 2013 13:37 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:06 Amui wrote:
Hmm according to Doa, OGN finals venue is 8500? seats and sold out in 45 min. Not too shabby.


8500 people, I have a hard time visualizing that. How does that compare to those epic BW audience pictures?


The proleague finals on the beach have, I believe, 40k-60k audience depending on estimates?

This Ars Technica articles says 50k for 06 finals http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/03/the-dawn-of-starcraft-e-sports-come-to-the-world-stage/

Wow, so like, Starcraft is really big in Korea eh? Hockey games in DC have like 15k

It was really big in Korea, sadly. By sadly, I mean that it's not anymore.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 04:42:55
January 31 2013 04:40 GMT
#4109
On January 31 2013 13:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:06 Amui wrote:
Hmm according to Doa, OGN finals venue is 8500? seats and sold out in 45 min. Not too shabby.


8500 people, I have a hard time visualizing that. How does that compare to those epic BW audience pictures?


The proleague finals on the beach have, I believe, 40k-60k audience depending on estimates?

This Ars Technica articles says 50k for 06 finals http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/03/the-dawn-of-starcraft-e-sports-come-to-the-world-stage/

OSL/MSL finals were usually limited by stadium capacity depending on what venue they used.

(500 people virtual audience NATE NEVER FORGET ;_;)


Thanks for the numbers.
8500 sounds pretty small in comparison. o.o;


Old TL thread even has 200k LOL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48454

(100k more likely, though not for the one in that thread; more like the 07-08 finals?)

Just go google "proleague finals" in google images and you see some pretty crazy pics.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 04:49:11
January 31 2013 04:46 GMT
#4110
On January 31 2013 13:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:27 GTR wrote:
With Runaan's Hurricane, who's it best used on? Was thinking ADC's but wouldn't it just be better to get a Phantom Dancer? Also, how does Tiamat/Ravenous Hydra apply to Kayle's E (if it does?).


Varus imo. In pretty much every aspect, PD outclasses Hurricane. I think they need to lower the Hurricane price to make it comparable to not even PD but Shiv.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Kayle/Ability_Details
Scroll down to Righteous Fury.

Edit: Teemo is probably best with Hurricane but I don't really count him as ADC. ;_;

Yeah... even Kog'maw, who can theoretically benefit well from hurricane, never actually wants to build it. If you want some incidental AOE, Shiv outperforms bedcause it isn't wrecking your single target dps while giving you some splash damage to push/poke with.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
January 31 2013 04:49 GMT
#4111
Pretty sure JP is the sole person on earth "for e-sports", whatever that means. Everyone else just talks up their game and shits on everyone else, LoL players included. People like InControl and DJwheat are a dime a dozen.

Lotta respect for JP.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 31 2013 04:50 GMT
#4112
Pretty sure Hurricane is fine. It's just more of an AoE damage tool than a single target damage tool.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 31 2013 04:54 GMT
#4113
On January 31 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Pretty sure Hurricane is fine. It's just more of an AoE damage tool than a single target damage tool.


That's fairly counter-intuitive to what an ADC is supposed to do. You're spending gold for an AoE instead of more crit chance against a single target, etc.
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ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
January 31 2013 04:54 GMT
#4114
You go Hurricane on AD Kennen for lots of stun powah
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 05:01:49
January 31 2013 05:00 GMT
#4115
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48454 thread talking about supposed 100-200k audience numbers

Someone in that thread actually counted the seat parcels(rows x columns) to get an approximate for the seating and it was in the 5k range. There's obviously no way that there were 95k standing(that would look like a huge music festival) on the beach. 8500 is a pretty respectable live audience size, think average division 1 basketball gym, maybe even a bit bigger.

The Apollo Theater seats ~1500 people, I'm sure you've seen it in some form of video(stand up comic, musical performance, something); so the finals will be a little less than 6x as big as that.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 31 2013 05:02 GMT
#4116
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 31 2013 05:05 GMT
#4117
On January 31 2013 13:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Pretty sure Hurricane is fine. It's just more of an AoE damage tool than a single target damage tool.


That's fairly counter-intuitive to what an ADC is supposed to do. You're spending gold for an AoE instead of more crit chance against a single target, etc.

Not every damage dealer needs to be a single target damage dealer. You put Runaan's on Kayle and her secondary targets take a .9AD ratio and additional magic damage. I'm pretty sure it's going to do more damage overall than a single target damager under ideal circumstances.

There are other AD's like Twitch who can make good use of Runaan's with ult since the Ult missile doesn't count as an auto so you can hit your primary target for a 1.5 AD ratio while ult is up.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 31 2013 05:06 GMT
#4118
Thresh dropped to 6.3k

instabuy that shit
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
January 31 2013 05:10 GMT
#4119
On January 31 2013 14:02 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 13:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:21 krndandaman wrote:
just wondering, do you guys think it is hard/impossible/possible to get to 1200 ranked in 3 months without having any MOBA experience?

I'm planning to do a bet with my friends to see if I can get 1200 ranked within 3 months from level 1 nooby who has never played a MOBA game before. its been a month now and I'm level 20 and doing pretty well (positive score in like 80% of my games at my level) and I learned all roles/know basic strat. I play maybe 1-2 hours a day give or take. Should I do this?


I don't even know what to say...

+ Show Spoiler +
Everyone starts out at 1200, lol. That's the baseline. Depending on how you do in your placement matches, you end up above or below 1200


oh I meant staying*
cause apparently it was easy to go below 1200 after a few games?
we didnt set a minimum amount of games to 1200 but it would just be seeing how I'd be doing at 1200 just in general (mainly positive scores)
they're not really looking to win the bet, rather just have me improve enough to play with them at 1300-1500ish ELO


You gain/lose elo very fast when you start playing ranked (+/-30) before it starts to stabilize to the more normal 10-15, so you can in fact go down rather quickly if you're much worse than 1200.
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Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
January 31 2013 05:11 GMT
#4120
On January 31 2013 13:34 TSBspartacus wrote:
Whoah TSM just got wrecked by CRS.
GGs


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