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On January 30 2013 23:13 Alaric wrote:TIL I learnt Swain is out-bullied by Urgot, even when using armor yellows+quints against an AD marks+quints page. 
urgot is fucking stupid
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On January 30 2013 23:39 Dusty wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 23:13 Alaric wrote:TIL I learnt Swain is out-bullied by Urgot, even when using armor yellows+quints against an AD marks+quints page.  urgot is fucking stupid
Hes one of those champs that people who are good at the game can completely stomp anything, but if you are new at him or bad you just feed constantly.
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Well next time I'll run 9-21-0 instead of 9-0-21. I was pretty confident in Awareness to reach 2 before him, get him somewhat low, and avoid the early all-in, but I stayed to give our jungler a smiteless while he ran to lane, and the 2 minions worth of exp that he got were enough that he hit 2 before my EQ combo ran out and he immediatly all-ined me, barely killing me (last Q went in the air as the debuff disappeared). We threw a won game (bot crushed, their jungle didn't go well) but that wasn't an Urgot issue, though.
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It's really important to make sure you don't miss creep exp when you're leashing. Your jungler can afford to blow an extra pot when doing smiteless. Melee minions give more exp than ranged ones, so missing 1-2 melee creeps in the first wave all but guarantees that he'll hit 2 before you even if you push hard. I should do math on exactly how long it takes to get to exp range from blue (going both directions, thru river and thru tri)
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On January 31 2013 00:01 sylverfyre wrote: It's really important to make sure you don't miss creep exp when you're leashing. Your jungler can afford to blow an extra pot when doing smiteless. Melee minions give more exp than ranged ones, so missing 1-2 melee creeps in the first wave all but guarantees that he'll hit 2 before you even if you push hard. I should do math on exactly how long it takes to get to exp range from blue (going both directions, thru river and thru tri)
Problem is that this is very much luck based. Sometimes the enemy minions focus yours, and sometimes they just split damage, the latter leaving you a lot more time to get into lane without losing anything. So you can't give a general timing like "at 2:03 you need to leave", because it very much varies from game to game.
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On January 31 2013 00:14 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 00:01 sylverfyre wrote: It's really important to make sure you don't miss creep exp when you're leashing. Your jungler can afford to blow an extra pot when doing smiteless. Melee minions give more exp than ranged ones, so missing 1-2 melee creeps in the first wave all but guarantees that he'll hit 2 before you even if you push hard. I should do math on exactly how long it takes to get to exp range from blue (going both directions, thru river and thru tri) Problem is that this is very much luck based. Sometimes the enemy minions focus yours, and sometimes they just split damage, the latter leaving you a lot more time to get into lane without losing anything. So you can't give a general timing like "at 2:03 you need to leave", because it very much varies from game to game. A bit. But if 1 gets focused, you'll miss at most 1. Missing 2 is friggin awful.
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looks funny when froggen, soaz, alex ich and edward is in the same ranked game as some random and random guy has first pick
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I weep everytime I'm coming back to lane and see my most recent wave focus the siege minion from the previous one over the melee minions in front of him. T_T Missing one melee minion worth of exp isn't enough to stop Awareness from getting you level 2 first, but 2 melee minions make it a lot tighter, especially if your opponent start pushing. I died to the all-in from this Urgot so he obviously hit 6 way before that (I came back to lane, he tries to kill me again, fails, we gank him and he lives, then as soon as our jungler goes away Eve rushes in lane and gets me killed a second time, Awareness can't really help you when this happens :x).
Tho as long as you don't back before your opponent does, even if he pushes you should still hit 6 first with Awareness. This can make an item-less all-in worth more than backing before 6, hitting 6 as soon as you come back and attacking because then your opponent will have items and possibly level 6 too (if he shoved really fast before backing so he gets an exp "advantage").
TL;DR I'm too kind of a leasher to abuse 21 util properly as mid. :< It's also harder not to miss creeps top since you have to walk longer (esp. if you don't see the opponent and want to avoid your river bush).
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On January 31 2013 00:20 Badboyrune wrote: looks funny when froggen, soaz, alex ich and edward is in the same ranked game as some random and random guy has first pick and poor xPeke is on enemy team :d
i feel for bad him :d
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On January 31 2013 00:24 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 00:20 Badboyrune wrote: looks funny when froggen, soaz, alex ich and edward is in the same ranked game as some random and random guy has first pick and poor xPeke is on enemy team :d i feel for bad him :d In before he wins while getting carried by randoms
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I'm in a game right now with a guy named "CLG DoubIeIift" (capital I instead of L) and I really feel like telling him taking peoples names is a dick move.
Discuss.
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On January 31 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote: I'm in a game right now with a guy named "CLG DoubIeIift" (capital I instead of L) and I really feel like telling him taking peoples names is a dick move.
Discuss.
It totally is.
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On January 31 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote: I'm in a game right now with a guy named "CLG DoubIeIift" (capital I instead of L) and I really feel like telling him taking peoples names is a dick move.
Discuss.
Nobody cares
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On January 31 2013 00:19 Mensol wrote:alex_ich, edward, froggen and soaz are on same team in soloQ :D www.twitch.tv/alexich
Inspired, Alex Ich playing with 130-230 consistent ping. Who needs 10 ping or less?
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On January 31 2013 00:24 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 00:20 Badboyrune wrote: looks funny when froggen, soaz, alex ich and edward is in the same ranked game as some random and random guy has first pick and poor xPeke is on enemy team :d i feel for bad him :d They're having way too much fun with Thresh's lantern (and sOAz refusing to click it so he can bait xPeke+Renekton instead) (and Froggen clicking it when it's intended for Alex).
Alex "0K got damage now" after he finishes a BT... on top of his BT/BC/LW build.
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omg soaz said hero, nevr cheering for fnatic again
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On January 31 2013 00:45 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote: I'm in a game right now with a guy named "CLG DoubIeIift" (capital I instead of L) and I really feel like telling him taking peoples names is a dick move.
Discuss. Nobody cares
Nobody cares that nobody cares
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On January 31 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote: I'm in a game right now with a guy named "CLG DoubIeIift" (capital I instead of L) and I really feel like telling him taking peoples names is a dick move.
Discuss.
Hahaha, a friend of mine was in a solo queue game with that guy and was like 'OMG I'm in a game with Doublelift', to which I responded 'you're like 1500 elo dude'.
he quickly discovered what you did about the guy's name.
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On January 31 2013 01:33 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 00:43 Ketara wrote: I'm in a game right now with a guy named "CLG DoubIeIift" (capital I instead of L) and I really feel like telling him taking peoples names is a dick move.
Discuss. Hahaha, a friend of mine was in a solo queue game with that guy and was like 'OMG I'm in a game with Doublelift', to which I responded 'you're like 1500 elo dude'. he quickly discovered what you did about the guy's name.
On the other hand, if that name was a smurf for Weixiao or something, hilarious.
Still not 1500 Elo though.
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