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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 04:00:23
January 30 2013 03:56 GMT
#3761
Link has been pretty underwhelming all 3 games. Maybe he just doesn't have the flair jiji does even if he is better.
And it was odd to pick taric without picking urgot at the same time. CLG drafting still has much to be desired =/.
At least CLG is still qualifies for the next round ^^.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 03:57:52
January 30 2013 03:57 GMT
#3762
Kiwikid carried so hard. Best pickup NA.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
January 30 2013 04:01 GMT
#3763
On January 30 2013 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Kiwikid carried so hard. Best pickup NA.

Only his position of returning home aren't the best.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 30 2013 04:02 GMT
#3764
On January 30 2013 13:01 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Kiwikid carried so hard. Best pickup NA.

Only his position of returning home aren't the best.


Well....

Oh and there is crumbzz as well. Dig looking pretty good imo (only if scarra would stop getting caught 24/7)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 30 2013 04:03 GMT
#3765
On January 30 2013 12:46 ProV1 wrote:
Scarra teamfighting so bad. He keeps diving into CLG while his team is far behind/not ready to commit. He just gets chunked while doing minimal dmg. Also, I hate the new trend of ez's going the gauntlet. It makes it so that u deal less overall dmg, and you're going pretty much no crit. That makes u do waaaaaaaay less dmg than IE PD LW just because of the crit factor. You can't do this if your team is a low dmg comp, and Dignitas's comp is a low dmg comp. Like these days, with health stacking benig the new things that tanks do, you can't go low dmg. You have to go for as much max dmg as possible or you're irelevant until like max items.


Not sure what champion Scarra was wondering about, but it reminds me of something else: it seems as if every single Twisted Fate player these days is obsessed with gating in to 5 players and using Hourglass. Like literally every game with TF has this happen at some point.

It's effective sometimes but not something that should be done indiscriminately. As soon as Hourglass runs out, if our team hasn't been overrun then TF is instakilled (sometimes they manage to flash away).
I am the Town Medic.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#3766
On January 30 2013 13:03 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 12:46 ProV1 wrote:
Scarra teamfighting so bad. He keeps diving into CLG while his team is far behind/not ready to commit. He just gets chunked while doing minimal dmg. Also, I hate the new trend of ez's going the gauntlet. It makes it so that u deal less overall dmg, and you're going pretty much no crit. That makes u do waaaaaaaay less dmg than IE PD LW just because of the crit factor. You can't do this if your team is a low dmg comp, and Dignitas's comp is a low dmg comp. Like these days, with health stacking benig the new things that tanks do, you can't go low dmg. You have to go for as much max dmg as possible or you're irelevant until like max items.


Not sure what champion Scarra was wondering about, but it reminds me of something else: it seems as if every single Twisted Fate player these days is obsessed with gating in to 5 players and using Hourglass. Like literally every game with TF has this happen at some point.

It's effective sometimes but not something that should be done indiscriminately. As soon as Hourglass runs out, if our team hasn't been overrun then TF is instakilled (sometimes they manage to flash away).

That's why you gotta zhonyas before the tp goes through. Same effect but twice the swag.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2013 04:09 GMT
#3767
Why am I so attracted to NyJacky's stream?
He doesn't really commentate.
His plays aren't off the walls bonkers.
But damn if his mangled english isn't cute as fuck.
liftlift > tsm
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 04:17:34
January 30 2013 04:16 GMT
#3768
Actually I find him as entertaining between games as during them.
02Jam and Superhexagon op

And yeah his english is awesome
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#3769
On January 30 2013 12:46 ProV1 wrote:
Scarra teamfighting so bad. He keeps diving into CLG while his team is far behind/not ready to commit. He just gets chunked while doing minimal dmg. Also, I hate the new trend of ez's going the gauntlet. It makes it so that u deal less overall dmg, and you're going pretty much no crit. That makes u do waaaaaaaay less dmg than IE PD LW just because of the crit factor. You can't do this if your team is a low dmg comp, and Dignitas's comp is a low dmg comp. Like these days, with health stacking benig the new things that tanks do, you can't go low dmg. You have to go for as much max dmg as possible or you're irelevant until like max items.

I feel like the damage Ez does is enough for Jax's and Xins and other people who rush Triforce first which doesn't provide much tankiness. Hotshot kinda charged in one fight and the enemy Ali could tank more than he could because Ali's ult is the best tanking tool in the game. Then Jax died and Ali didn't have a scratch on him.

Most of these games I don't think the AD carry is doing enough. Cait(dlift) didn't have enough farm for IE PD LW Warmogs, but he could just skip the LW and still be the strongest champion in the game. They could always get another AD on the team if they felt there was no way to peel for their only AD or something.

If the current meta is about being tanky then all your team needs is an AD carry that can bring down the tanks, and if your enemy team's AD has no crit scaling then all you have to do is fight a fair 5v5 fight without anything fancy like Jax chasing into a 1v3 and you'll win. IE PD is just that strong. People may be tankier than they used to be because they're building health now, but there's a limit to this effectiveness. Stacking too much health is almost as bad as stacking too much armor.
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Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
January 30 2013 04:54 GMT
#3770
vod of dig vs clg?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 30 2013 05:01 GMT
#3771
On January 30 2013 13:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 12:46 ProV1 wrote:
Scarra teamfighting so bad. He keeps diving into CLG while his team is far behind/not ready to commit. He just gets chunked while doing minimal dmg. Also, I hate the new trend of ez's going the gauntlet. It makes it so that u deal less overall dmg, and you're going pretty much no crit. That makes u do waaaaaaaay less dmg than IE PD LW just because of the crit factor. You can't do this if your team is a low dmg comp, and Dignitas's comp is a low dmg comp. Like these days, with health stacking benig the new things that tanks do, you can't go low dmg. You have to go for as much max dmg as possible or you're irelevant until like max items.

I feel like the damage Ez does is enough for Jax's and Xins and other people who rush Triforce first which doesn't provide much tankiness. Hotshot kinda charged in one fight and the enemy Ali could tank more than he could because Ali's ult is the best tanking tool in the game. Then Jax died and Ali didn't have a scratch on him.

Most of these games I don't think the AD carry is doing enough. Cait(dlift) didn't have enough farm for IE PD LW Warmogs, but he could just skip the LW and still be the strongest champion in the game. They could always get another AD on the team if they felt there was no way to peel for their only AD or something.

If the current meta is about being tanky then all your team needs is an AD carry that can bring down the tanks, and if your enemy team's AD has no crit scaling then all you have to do is fight a fair 5v5 fight without anything fancy like Jax chasing into a 1v3 and you'll win. IE PD is just that strong. People may be tankier than they used to be because they're building health now, but there's a limit to this effectiveness. Stacking too much health is almost as bad as stacking too much armor.


Well, particularly vs. an AD health is worse than armor (assuming they have lifesteal).
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2013 05:54 GMT
#3772
Just watching snoopeh's real talk interview. They were getting offer from Curse too. Damn, Curse would've been so stacked if they had ex-clg.eu.....
liftlift > tsm
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 06:09:27
January 30 2013 06:08 GMT
#3773
Random theorycraft:
Corki Taric Nasus on a team, level E, W and E respectively:
Teamfight at level 9, shred 110 armor in an AoE. Do 150% true damage to everyone who doesn't have a chain vest. Do true damage to everyone who does have a chain vest.
I am the Town Medic.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 30 2013 06:09 GMT
#3774
On January 30 2013 14:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Just watching snoopeh's real talk interview. They were getting offer from Curse too. Damn, Curse would've been so stacked if they had ex-clg.eu.....


omg the video is long,does any1 has a summary of that video?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 30 2013 06:27 GMT
#3775
On January 30 2013 15:08 Alzadar wrote:
Random theorycraft:
Corki Taric Nasus on a team, level E, W and E respectively:
Teamfight at level 9, shred 110 armor in an AoE. Do 150% true damage to everyone who doesn't have a chain vest. Do true damage to everyone who does have a chain vest.


do 150% damage on all the damage skills you aren't leveling up tho
level 9 e on corki, 9 e on nasus means your Q is level 2 tops and you probably lost lane p hard
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 30 2013 06:34 GMT
#3776
chauster got greedy trying to secure his blue, lost his blue and blew flash and had 1 cs to crumbz's double buffs.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
January 30 2013 06:34 GMT
#3777
On January 30 2013 15:27 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 15:08 Alzadar wrote:
Random theorycraft:
Corki Taric Nasus on a team, level E, W and E respectively:
Teamfight at level 9, shred 110 armor in an AoE. Do 150% true damage to everyone who doesn't have a chain vest. Do true damage to everyone who does have a chain vest.


do 150% damage on all the damage skills you aren't leveling up tho
level 9 e on corki, 9 e on nasus means your Q is level 2 tops and you probably lost lane p hard
Corki's Q does magic damage.

The difference between L2 and L5 Nasus Q is 60 damage + whatever you missed out via a slightly longer cooldown.

There is no such thing as a level 9 team fight. The duo lane isn't even close to being level 9 compared to when the solo lanes hit it.
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
January 30 2013 06:34 GMT
#3778
i jus tplayed a thresh game where i went back for the first time at 5 min mark with 2000g... i had like 3 kills or something.. bought a straight up locket as only item, funniest thing ever. I was so tanky.. towers didnt even do damage to me >_<
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 06:40:57
January 30 2013 06:40 GMT
#3779
On January 30 2013 13:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Why am I so attracted to NyJacky's stream?
He doesn't really commentate.
His plays aren't off the walls bonkers.
But damn if his mangled english isn't cute as fuck.


I like his stream to learn because he doesn't do "off the wall bonkers" plays.

Just really solid, non-risky midlane play. (even in yoloQ).
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 30 2013 06:56 GMT
#3780
On January 30 2013 15:40 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 13:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Why am I so attracted to NyJacky's stream?
He doesn't really commentate.
His plays aren't off the walls bonkers.
But damn if his mangled english isn't cute as fuck.


I like his stream to learn because he doesn't do "off the wall bonkers" plays.

Just really solid, non-risky midlane play. (even in yoloQ).


NyJacky seems to die a lot though. If you want solid non-risky play you should watch Salce.
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