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On January 29 2013 14:42 Keniji wrote:
Guys, what to do top lane when the other laner comes to lane and took wraiths? He is lvl 2 way before you and doesn't even need to push the lane for it. He can just zone instantly.
wait for riot to fix this for top lane like they did with golems for bot ( even though you can still do golems easily l0l.) wraiths on purple side is 10x more op than golems ever was though since top lane is so much easier to zone.
its pretty gamebreaking right now, i refuse to play top lane from blue side
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I like to start 3green/1faerie/2red on Leona
You can go balls deep as support and get movespeed quints if you think you can make plays with Leona/Taric/Ali etc, but I'm not manly enough so I go gp5 quints/flat armor/mpen/scaling MR. I might use mp5 or CDR or something to switch with the mpen though.
Also, 3 perfect games yesterday into 3 miserable losses today (one we had a 0/5 rager Teemo). Matchmaking OP?
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Also, a question for the better players out there.
What do I do as mid when my team loses their towers and then hangs out in mid like it's the cool thing to do?
I seem to be having this problem a lot recently, where I am winning my lane but other lanes are losing theirs and lose their towers. Then rather than keep their minions pushed they think it's time to go roaming and end up in mid, and then suddenly their guys are in mid too, but their laners have kills and tower gold and mine don't and we just start teamfighting in mid and losing over and over because no pressure is being put top and bottom.
Do I just leave mid and go push one of the other lanes? I've been trying to politely explain to my team that the reason I have to deal with their top lane and bot lane being in mid is because top and bot aren't being pushed, but this is a concept that it's difficult to get through to people in the middle of a game.
It makes me real angry because I am having lots of games where I'm winning my lane but not by much until I'm fighting the enemy top and bot lanes 1v3 or whatever in mid, get killed a few times, and then my team says it's all my fault.
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My god. I just spectated one of those front page games with a tristana with a guy called TheLoneCheese.
Tristana+nunu+PD=2.5 attack speed, 700 range, qss/ult/w to escape/manuver around the fight, 460 movement speed with t3boots/bb
O___________________O
He raped everybody every team fight.
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On January 29 2013 15:13 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 14:42 Keniji wrote:
Guys, what to do top lane when the other laner comes to lane and took wraiths? He is lvl 2 way before you and doesn't even need to push the lane for it. He can just zone instantly. wait for riot to fix this for top lane like they did with golems for bot ( even though you can still do golems easily l0l.) wraiths on purple side is 10x more op than golems ever was though since top lane is so much easier to zone. its pretty gamebreaking right now, i refuse to play top lane from blue side
No offense, but I think this is pretty stupid. There are many ways to fight this. Blue's jungler can go to tribush right after doing blue and catch the guy for free in a 2v1 situation, or you can wait in red bush (behind red) and fight the top laner. His allies are doing blue and can't assist him + he took lots of damage from wraith. You can steal the wraith, too.
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On January 29 2013 15:13 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 14:42 Keniji wrote:
Guys, what to do top lane when the other laner comes to lane and took wraiths? He is lvl 2 way before you and doesn't even need to push the lane for it. He can just zone instantly. wait for riot to fix this for top lane like they did with golems for bot ( even though you can still do golems easily l0l.) wraiths on purple side is 10x more op than golems ever was though since top lane is so much easier to zone. its pretty gamebreaking right now, i refuse to play top lane from blue side
Do they lose so few HP doing it?
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When I do it with Lee, I lose 300-400 HP, and I lose 1-2 creeps because I'm late. It's very easy to straight up kill me while I'm doing it or kill me in tribush as I'm walking to lane. If you think that you have to help the jungler do his blue and therefore can't abuse this (which I disagree with, because you can still fight him 1v1 in tribush where you have full HP and he has half) and therefore saying that you refuse to play top lane only says that you refuse to take one for the team, because, in turn, your bot lane has the advantage over the other bot lane. It's balanced.
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I play like every champ in the game, do well.... and then I go and play one more game of Elise and its like wtf.
champ
is
so
fucking
broken
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Is there a specific plug-in to install? I can't load it and I can't read Chinese either...
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On January 29 2013 16:07 sob3k wrote:
I play like every champ in the game, do well.... and then I go and play one more game of Elise and its like wtf.
champ
is
so
fucking
broken
dont
worry
nerfs
are
incoming
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On January 29 2013 16:23 Alaric wrote:
Is there a specific plug-in to install? I can't load it and I can't read Chinese either...
Dunno, I can't read chinese either yet it works fine (lags a bit though)
Alternative Stream Link: http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/group/15070-4o251258.htm
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Thanks! Apparently I had to download and install something (qqlite or something like that) but the .exe was in Chinese too so I'd rather be sure of what exactly it is I install.
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i've never seen any top lane do wraiths yet. I can't see how it's broken since you lose out on invade control, and also a chunk of your HP
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Wait, how do you dodge Lulu's Q if she puts E on you?
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On January 29 2013 16:56 cascades wrote:
Wait, how do you dodge Lulu's Q if she puts E on you?
You sit there and take it like a man.
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On January 29 2013 16:56 cascades wrote:
Wait, how do you dodge Lulu's Q if she puts E on you?
you dont. She can still miss it though.
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Man team from Mayi spiders against iG: Jarvan jungle, Leona+Ezreal botlane, Pantheon and Renekton solos
Also TF support from iG, with MF.
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On January 29 2013 16:48 Mondieu wrote:
i've never seen any top lane do wraiths yet. I can't see how it's broken since you lose out on invade control, and also a chunk of your HP
I'll play Olaf, open cloth+4+1mana, take wraiths, come to lane with nearly full mana and HP and hit level 2 after 2? creeps. I'll then proceed to run at you, and if I land an axe you blow summoners or die, and even if I don't land an axe, I can still zone the crap out of you until you hit 2, and then again once I hit 3.
In a lot of these scenarios you'll get shit on as a result of losing too much because you can't afford to go in to CS, in addition to possibly missing some exp.
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On January 29 2013 15:17 Ketara wrote:
Also, a question for the better players out there.
What do I do as mid when my team loses their towers and then hangs out in mid like it's the cool thing to do?
I seem to be having this problem a lot recently, where I am winning my lane but other lanes are losing theirs and lose their towers. Then rather than keep their minions pushed they think it's time to go roaming and end up in mid, and then suddenly their guys are in mid too, but their laners have kills and tower gold and mine don't and we just start teamfighting in mid and losing over and over because no pressure is being put top and bottom.
Do I just leave mid and go push one of the other lanes? I've been trying to politely explain to my team that the reason I have to deal with their top lane and bot lane being in mid is because top and bot aren't being pushed, but this is a concept that it's difficult to get through to people in the middle of a game.
It makes me real angry because I am having lots of games where I'm winning my lane but not by much until I'm fighting the enemy top and bot lanes 1v3 or whatever in mid, get killed a few times, and then my team says it's all my fault.
you need to be able to judge if your other 4 can hold mid vs 5. if they can and you are a fast pusher, then taking the outer turrets will do your team a lot of good. eventually one of the enemy team (or more if you're strong!) will have to come to stop your push (when you're at their inner, usually) and that pressure buys the other 4 members of your team time to farm their own jungle or engage 4v4 or 4v3 if its opportune etc.
if your team can't hold as 4 and you're at their outer turret pushing, as you might imagine you'll lose a looot of towers and control middle. you'll either have to hold and try to engage on them when they're on your turret if its contestable, or turtle really hard and maximize what farm you can.
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