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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
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Mensol
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:59 fishinguy wrote: Vi just looks like Riven 2.0. I mean wtf is the the point of playing riven if u can play her? That W looks even stronger than Jax's ult... Riven has more mobility (no need to charge, no slow attached), her shield doesn't require you to hit someone (and can be used to dodge/dash in), she has a huge AD steroid, Vi requires a lot of chained autos rather than focusing on ability/auto weaving, Riven has more AoE (probably, depends on how strong Vi's E is), including an AoE execute, their CCs are different, Vi has a strong initiation ability whereas Riven prefers to let other people initiate, Vi's shield encourages building health where Riven's encourages stacking more AD... So yeah, not the same. Similar, sure, but not the same. Riven is an AD stacking burst semi-assassin, Vi looks more like a "standard" bruiser. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On December 19 2012 22:46 WhiteDog wrote: Yeah I agree, pro player should have a good vocabulary, wash their teeth everydays and wait to be married before having sex. Asking your employees not to mouth off your customers is not the same as asking them to do these other things you listed that are completely unrelated to your customers' immediate experience. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:09 phyvo wrote: Asking your employees not to mouth off your customers is not the same as asking them to do these other things you listed that are completely unrelated to your customers' immediate experience. Though all people should brush their teeth. Shit gets gross. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:46 Requizen wrote: Riot too sneaky, wait until I've already spent all my IP and RP so I have to buy more T.T She looks worth it though. And I just got a raise, so I feel like treating myself to a badass steampunk chick. Yeah, I've got an internal struggle as well. I've got a paid internship next semester, so I'm like "I CAN TOTALLY SPEND MONEY NOW THAT I'LL GET BACK IN THE FUTURE" | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=389066 (And if you weren't wondering, kindly ignore :D ) | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:57 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + this is fucking gold that change of faceexpression 0:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPL9F24OLI Oh man, poor reapered was so confused xD | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote: So just in case anyone was still wondering why I missed my cast on Sunday.... http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=389066 (And if you weren't wondering, kindly ignore :D ) PLUGGING YOUR BLOG IN GD. HOW RUDE! + Show Spoiler + Super congratz. High Elo father inc. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:52 Simberto wrote: Meh, i want her because of the song and her art, but i already know that i will never play her. Why can't she be a support or jungler who punches people through walls with giant steampunk fists? Edit: Actually, can you maybe jungle her? You can definitely jungle her. The odd thing about it is that both W and E are one point wonders, as a jungler you don't get a heck of a lot for investing in them. As a result maxing Q may be the way of things because it's the best option for ganking and won't dramatically affect your clears. If you're really concerned about clearing W will generally be better than E. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:26 AsmodeusXI wrote: It seriously just runs all over every part of me that loves the crap out of Paramore. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOTHING. I'm sitting in a lane filled up with all the minion rush and in the brush there are gankers sitting there, building tank and trying to set up a gank. Don't look up, just let them think there's no place else you'd rather be. You're always in full view, cause they all warded the river and don't you know by now you can't turn back. Because this road is all you'll ever have. And it's obvious that you're dying, dying. Your jungler isn't even trying. And oh oh open wide, 'cause this is your night. So smile, 'cause you'll go out in style. You'll go out in style. If you let me I could, I'd show you how to play your lane right, do the teamfight, separate from the world. The games your teams will always throw, just grind the elo. Don't look up, just let them think there's no place else you'd rather be. You're always in full view, cause they all warded the river and don't you know by now you can't turn back. Because this road is all you'll ever have. And it's obvious that you're dying, dying. Your jungler isn't even trying. And oh oh open wide, 'cause this is your night. So smile... | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:24 Seuss wrote: You can definitely jungle her. The odd thing about it is that both W and E are one point wonders, as a jungler you don't get a heck of a lot for investing in them. As a result maxing Q may be the way of things because it's the best option for ganking and won't dramatically affect your clears. If you're really concerned about clearing W will generally be better than E. There's also the inherent benefit in being the only jungler (I think) who initiates a gank by PUNCHING YOU IN THE FACE. I'd be scared of that just because. Also, E a 1-pointer? Does the damage not scale at all? Is it just CDR on the charges? On December 20 2012 01:28 MoonBear wrote: I'm sitting in a lane filled up with all the minion rush and in the brush there are gankers sitting there, building tank and trying to set up a gank. Don't look up, just let them think there's no place else you'd rather be. You're always in full view, cause they all warded the river and don't you know by now you can't turn back. Because this road is all you'll ever have. And it's obvious that you're dying, dying. Your jungler isn't even trying. And oh oh open wide, 'cause this is your night. So smile, 'cause you'll go out in style. You'll go out in style. If you let me I could, I'd show you how to play your lane right, do the teamfight, separate from the world. The games your teams will always throw, just grind the elo. Don't look up, just let them think there's no place else you'd rather be. You're always in full view, cause they all warded the river and don't you know by now you can't turn back. Because this road is all you'll ever have. And it's obvious that you're dying, dying. Your jungler isn't even trying. And oh oh open wide, 'cause this is your night. So smile... Oh you. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:24 Seuss wrote: You can definitely jungle her. The odd thing about it is that both W and E are one point wonders, as a jungler you don't get a heck of a lot for investing in them. As a result maxing Q may be the way of things because it's the best option for ganking and won't dramatically affect your clears. If you're really concerned about clearing W will generally be better than E. Interesting, I haven't looked at her bases. I would have thought the extra AS/damage on W would almost make it mandatory to max first. Her ganks seem pretty good. Knockback is always wonky as a ganking tools, since you can "save" enemies with it, but it looks more like a Riven disruption knockback than a Hec really big shove. Plus, once you're 6, you can ult, then get behind and quick Q to push back. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:52 Simberto wrote: Meh, i want her because of the song and her art, but i already know that i will never play her. Why can't she be a support or jungler who punches people through walls with giant steampunk fists? Edit: Actually, can you maybe jungle her? She tears through the jungle. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:59 fishinguy wrote: Vi just looks like Riven 2.0. I mean wtf is the the point of playing riven if u can play her? That W looks even stronger than Jax's ult... They are very different. Vi fills a classic bruiser role and Riven is...... Riven. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 20 2012 00:59 fishinguy wrote: Vi just looks like Riven 2.0. I mean wtf is the the point of playing riven if u can play her? That W looks even stronger than Jax's ult... There's a big difference between that W and jax's ult. You have to hit the same target 3 times consecutively with Vi's W; Jax's ult you can hit minions twice and still get bonus damage when you hit a champion next. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:28 AsmodeusXI wrote: There's also the inherent benefit in being the only jungler (I think) who initiates a gank by PUNCHING YOU IN THE FACE. I'd be scared of that just because. Also, E a 1-pointer? Does the damage not scale at all? Is it just CDR on the charges? The primary benefit of ranking E is that the time it takes to store charges goes down, you only gain 15 damage per rank. However, when you're jungling you don't really need to use more than one charge per camp, and even if you use two you'll have at least one by the time you reach the next camp. On December 20 2012 01:33 Requizen wrote: Interesting, I haven't looked at her bases. I would have thought the extra AS/damage on W would almost make it mandatory to max first. Her ganks seem pretty good. Knockback is always wonky as a ganking tools, since you can "save" enemies with it, but it looks more like a Riven disruption knockback than a Hec really big shove. Plus, once you're 6, you can ult, then get behind and quick Q to push back. The thing about W is you start at 6% Damage and 30% Attack Speed, but you only get 1% Damage and 5% Attack Speed for each additional rank. That's not bad but neither is it particularly inspiring. Meanwhile, each rank of Q increases its damage by 30-60 and reduces its cooldown by 2.5s. Going from an 18 second cooldown to an 8 second cooldown is pretty ridiculous in terms of gank/teamfight mobility, especially with some CDR. On December 20 2012 01:42 thenexusp wrote: There's a big difference between that W and jax's ult. You have to hit the same target 3 times consecutively with Vi's W; Jax's ult you can hit minions twice and still get bonus damage when you hit a champion next. Correction: You have to hit the same target three times before your previous stacks fade, it doesn't have to be consecutive. Think of it like Vayne's Silver Bolts only stackable on multiple targets at the same time. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:45 Seuss wrote: Correction: You have to hit the same target three times before your previous stacks fade, it doesn't have to be consecutive. Think of it like Vayne's Silver Bolts only stackable on multiple targets at the same time. HURRICANE VI OP. No, but that's pretty cool. And don't her abilities add it? Well, I guess just her Q... if it was her ult too that might be too OP. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 20 2012 01:45 Seuss wrote: Correction: You have to hit the same target three times before your previous stacks fade, it doesn't have to be consecutive. Think of it like Vayne's Silver Bolts only stackable on multiple targets at the same time. Hydra... ? Edit: na, that doesn't work. Would be too good. SotD Hydra Vi for a boom boom Eve initiation on the enemy team.  | ||
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