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Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
December 18 2012 04:08 GMT
#1181
On December 18 2012 10:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:28 spellsy wrote:
hey I made a support-fiddlesticks guide on lolking and i wonder waht you TL guys think cause you guys are some of the few people who would actually read the whole thing lol

http://www.lolking.net/guides/48492

How do you do damage maxing Q? Seems rather ult dependent. I guess fiddle's most reliable damage is his ult anyways.


You are not suppose to be doing damage as fiddle support, you are suppose to abuse ur imba cc to destroy your opponents :D
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
December 18 2012 04:23 GMT
#1182
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
December 18 2012 04:44 GMT
#1183
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only

I am 100% sure they don't.
boomer hands
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 18 2012 04:45 GMT
#1184
if anyone wants to watch me play ranked around 1700~ elo @ twitch.tv/smoothmaydie and give me some pointers and what not, please do so! Trying to improve everything about my play to raise elo. x.x;;
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 04:47:50
December 18 2012 04:47 GMT
#1185
Ice Cream With Loco for his fans <3
Yes It's an hour long ROFL.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 04:55:12
December 18 2012 04:54 GMT
#1186
Literally every game for three days has had a Caitlyn in it, except for when I ban her.

I mean, I know I complained about this already but come on.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 05:01:38
December 18 2012 04:56 GMT
#1187
Hey TL! Thoughts about Blade of the Ruined King? I haven't seen it often (sometimes rushed on like Varus or Kog, they often end up behind and get squashed later; once on a Warwick but he started way behind then from some ks on high bounty champ he got fed so it didn't show at all how it was related to his build), and I find it pretty hard to stick a value on it, because of the %current hp nature of its on-hit.
Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it?

It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it.
Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 18 2012 05:02 GMT
#1188
On December 18 2012 13:56 Alaric wrote:
Hey TL! Thoughts about Blade of the Ruined King? I haven't seen it often (sometimes rushed on like Varus or Kog, they often end up behind and get squashed later; once on a Warwick but he started way behind then from some ks on high bounty champ he got fed so it didn't show at all how it was related to his build), and I find it pretty hard to stick a value on it, because of the %current hp nature of its on-hit.
Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it?

It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it.
Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal.

It's all about that, Mallet Hurricane BoTRK Teemo
tbh.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 05:47:15
December 18 2012 05:26 GMT
#1189
Dyrus bootless on Singed 21 minutes in. Ult and rylai too strong.

He's getting destroyed through rylai/mercs/banshee/guise by the enemy Ahri who only has DFG/sorcs/voi staff/liandry/NLR. Ahri's base damage is just so absurd, with the MPen changes and the new DFG she does so much damage I expected her to have at least deathcap+zhonya or something on top of the DFG. o_o
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
December 18 2012 05:29 GMT
#1190
On December 18 2012 13:44 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only

I am 100% sure they don't.


Players on the enemy team have a slightly different border if they have an honor ribbon, that's probably where the confusion is coming from
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#1191
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only


ranked and normals it's hidden.
custom games it's not.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
December 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#1192
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/

I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow.

Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her.

Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold...
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 18 2012 05:54 GMT
#1193
Ruined king shouldnt be built on any ADC's, bruisers on the other hand, like jax, its pretty good on
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Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
December 18 2012 05:57 GMT
#1194
On December 18 2012 13:56 Alaric wrote:
Hey TL! Thoughts about Blade of the Ruined King? I haven't seen it often (sometimes rushed on like Varus or Kog, they often end up behind and get squashed later; once on a Warwick but he started way behind then from some ks on high bounty champ he got fed so it didn't show at all how it was related to his build), and I find it pretty hard to stick a value on it, because of the %current hp nature of its on-hit.
Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it?

It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it.
Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal.


IMO it's got too much going on to be very good. It fills the same role as the old bloodrazor, sort of a one-item DPS machine, and while its better, it still costs too much while offering too little of everything. The active isn't strong because it's split into heal/chase/burst, the % isn't strong enough to be a one item solution to tanky things, 40 AD is pathetic, especially compared to BT, and that 10% lifesteal doesnt' really help if you have no AD.

if they streamlined the item and shifted values around it might work better. change the 10% lifesteal into more lifesteal from proc, switch the AD into some AS. iuonno. I've only really tested it on fiora, GP, WW, cait. and every single time it was underwhelming.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 06:00:28
December 18 2012 05:57 GMT
#1195
On December 18 2012 14:54 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/

I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow.

Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her.

Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold...

Ahri's ult is no joke, although you gotta make sure so utilize all 3 rushes on her ult to make the most of her damage.

Edit: Also on topic of this list, I always knew Akali's burst was high, but didn't think it was that high. God I hate laning against here lol, all that burst and the damn shroud for jukes. She is my kryptonite.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 18 2012 05:59 GMT
#1196
Mfw AP Ezreal's level6 burst is 2nd highest in the game lol
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 18 2012 06:06 GMT
#1197
I just wanted you guys to know that AD Rammus is hilarious against bots. Have a friend grab Taric, rush SotD. You have Rammus E + Taric W for Armor Reduction and Rammus W + Taric W + Taric R to act as AD steroids for Rammus. You will instantly melt anything.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
December 18 2012 06:07 GMT
#1198
On December 18 2012 14:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
Mfw AP Ezreal's level6 burst is 2nd highest in the game lol


Prob assuming he lands ult right in your face before it hits any minions and he lands all 3 of his skillshots, I believe it. surprised Kat does as much dmg as Vlad, that seems weird for lvl6.
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Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
December 18 2012 06:18 GMT
#1199
On December 18 2012 15:07 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 14:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
Mfw AP Ezreal's level6 burst is 2nd highest in the game lol


Prob assuming he lands ult right in your face before it hits any minions and he lands all 3 of his skillshots, I believe it. surprised Kat does as much dmg as Vlad, that seems weird for lvl6.


because it makes bad assumptions. annie does way more, but he doesn't include the guaranteed bear auto or bear aura. or swain, who's torment increases damage from auto and ignite, which aren't counted. or Zyra's goddam plants, which easily add another ~200 to her combo.

again, it makes bad blanket assumptions instead of looking at each character case by case.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 06:19:54
December 18 2012 06:18 GMT
#1200
Read. He assumes people only hit for 1s, which is why Annie, Viktor, Swain, Brand, Ryze, Zyra, Karthus, Fiddle are so low for example. On the other hand he assumes Syndra hits all of her shit and has 5 spheres up, which is unrealistic because of the amount of setup it requires (read: more than forcing your target to step on more than 2 Ziggs mines, or proc Lux's passive thrice).
7
Also he states stuff like all 3 Akali dashes but Diana only ults once. I dunno about Ahri, she can only ult once in that 1s window he chose but if you have to add two other ult charges to her combo... damn.

On December 18 2012 15:06 Seuss wrote:
I just wanted you guys to know that AD Rammus is hilarious against bots. Have a friend grab Taric, rush SotD. You have Rammus E + Taric W for Armor Reduction and Rammus W + Taric W + Taric R to act as AD steroids for Rammus. You will instantly melt anything.

Was about to say that Taric doesn't have the aura after he casted W, but turns out he still does, he only loses his own steroid. Interesting.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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