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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
On December 18 2012 10:00 obesechicken13 wrote: How do you do damage maxing Q? Seems rather ult dependent. I guess fiddle's most reliable damage is his ult anyways. You are not suppose to be doing damage as fiddle support, you are suppose to abuse ur imba cc to destroy your opponents :D | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote: I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug? im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only | ||
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seRapH
United States9782 Posts
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote: im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only I am 100% sure they don't. | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Yes It's an hour long ROFL. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I mean, I know I complained about this already but come on. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it? It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it. Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 18 2012 13:56 Alaric wrote: Hey TL! Thoughts about Blade of the Ruined King? I haven't seen it often (sometimes rushed on like Varus or Kog, they often end up behind and get squashed later; once on a Warwick but he started way behind then from some ks on high bounty champ he got fed so it didn't show at all how it was related to his build), and I find it pretty hard to stick a value on it, because of the %current hp nature of its on-hit. Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it? It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it. Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal. It's all about that, Mallet Hurricane BoTRK Teemo tbh. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
He's getting destroyed through rylai/mercs/banshee/guise by the enemy Ahri who only has DFG/sorcs/voi staff/liandry/NLR. Ahri's base damage is just so absurd, with the MPen changes and the new DFG she does so much damage I expected her to have at least deathcap+zhonya or something on top of the DFG. o_o | ||
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
Players on the enemy team have a slightly different border if they have an honor ribbon, that's probably where the confusion is coming from | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote: im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only ranked and normals it's hidden. custom games it's not. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow. Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her. Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold... | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
On December 18 2012 13:56 Alaric wrote: Hey TL! Thoughts about Blade of the Ruined King? I haven't seen it often (sometimes rushed on like Varus or Kog, they often end up behind and get squashed later; once on a Warwick but he started way behind then from some ks on high bounty champ he got fed so it didn't show at all how it was related to his build), and I find it pretty hard to stick a value on it, because of the %current hp nature of its on-hit. Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it? It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it. Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal. IMO it's got too much going on to be very good. It fills the same role as the old bloodrazor, sort of a one-item DPS machine, and while its better, it still costs too much while offering too little of everything. The active isn't strong because it's split into heal/chase/burst, the % isn't strong enough to be a one item solution to tanky things, 40 AD is pathetic, especially compared to BT, and that 10% lifesteal doesnt' really help if you have no AD. if they streamlined the item and shifted values around it might work better. change the 10% lifesteal into more lifesteal from proc, switch the AD into some AS. iuonno. I've only really tested it on fiora, GP, WW, cait. and every single time it was underwhelming. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 18 2012 14:54 Lmui wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/ I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow. Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her. Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold... Ahri's ult is no joke, although you gotta make sure so utilize all 3 rushes on her ult to make the most of her damage. Edit: Also on topic of this list, I always knew Akali's burst was high, but didn't think it was that high. God I hate laning against here lol, all that burst and the damn shroud for jukes. She is my kryptonite. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On December 18 2012 14:59 MooMooMugi wrote: Mfw AP Ezreal's level6 burst is 2nd highest in the game lol Prob assuming he lands ult right in your face before it hits any minions and he lands all 3 of his skillshots, I believe it. surprised Kat does as much dmg as Vlad, that seems weird for lvl6. | ||
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
On December 18 2012 15:07 Zooper31 wrote: Prob assuming he lands ult right in your face before it hits any minions and he lands all 3 of his skillshots, I believe it. surprised Kat does as much dmg as Vlad, that seems weird for lvl6. because it makes bad assumptions. annie does way more, but he doesn't include the guaranteed bear auto or bear aura. or swain, who's torment increases damage from auto and ignite, which aren't counted. or Zyra's goddam plants, which easily add another ~200 to her combo. again, it makes bad blanket assumptions instead of looking at each character case by case. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
7 Also he states stuff like all 3 Akali dashes but Diana only ults once. I dunno about Ahri, she can only ult once in that 1s window he chose but if you have to add two other ult charges to her combo... damn. On December 18 2012 15:06 Seuss wrote: I just wanted you guys to know that AD Rammus is hilarious against bots. Have a friend grab Taric, rush SotD. You have Rammus E + Taric W for Armor Reduction and Rammus W + Taric W + Taric R to act as AD steroids for Rammus. You will instantly melt anything. Was about to say that Taric doesn't have the aura after he casted W, but turns out he still does, he only loses his own steroid. Interesting. | ||
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