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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 18 2012 06:24 GMT
#1201
On December 18 2012 14:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only


ranked and normals it's hidden.
custom games it's not.


it's hidden in arams
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 18 2012 06:24 GMT
#1202
On December 18 2012 14:54 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/

I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow.

Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her.

Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold...


I have no idea how this is calculated, but it seems to me that every single ability is only allowed to be casted once (look at the Karthus burst).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
December 18 2012 06:24 GMT
#1203
Ya that graph is pretty much useless. He should've just done everyones full lvl6 combo in a vacuum assuming they hit everything perfectly. Would've at least been a little useful then.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 18 2012 06:26 GMT
#1204
On December 18 2012 15:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 14:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only


ranked and normals it's hidden.
custom games it's not.


it's hidden in arams


o.o
Maybe I haven't played in way too long lol.
gg
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
December 18 2012 06:51 GMT
#1205
Although I don't play lol anymore, I find this pretty cute.

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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 18 2012 06:52 GMT
#1206
On December 18 2012 15:51 boon2537 wrote:
Although I don't play lol anymore, I find this pretty cute.

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[image loading]

Wow I'm actually surprised they got around to that.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 06:55:05
December 18 2012 06:52 GMT
#1207
On December 18 2012 15:24 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 14:54 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/

I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow.

Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her.

Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold...


I have no idea how this is calculated, but it seems to me that every single ability is only allowed to be casted once (look at the Karthus burst).

just off pure damage it seems like tf would be doing way more than 250, with blue card wild cards and stacked deck i figure

oh says they arent counting them, seems like a kinda useless graph imo.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 18 2012 06:57 GMT
#1208
I'm loving Zyra support. The nerf to her E projectile speed is really noticeable, and she's honestly not really the best support in lane, but what she brings to teamfights is just immense. I've won every game with Zyra support so far, and most of the time we fell behind in lane but made up for it with teamfight utility.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 18 2012 07:04 GMT
#1209
On December 18 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 15:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 18 2012 14:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only


ranked and normals it's hidden.
custom games it's not.


it's hidden in arams


o.o
Maybe I haven't played in way too long lol.
gg


Allies borders show in ALL games, and NEVER show for the enemy team. Not sure what people are smoking
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 18 2012 07:07 GMT
#1210
On December 18 2012 16:04 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 18 2012 15:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 18 2012 14:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only


ranked and normals it's hidden.
custom games it's not.


it's hidden in arams


o.o
Maybe I haven't played in way too long lol.
gg


Allies borders show in ALL games, and NEVER show for the enemy team. Not sure what people are smoking

They're probably just confused because spectators see borders on both sides.
3.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6216 Posts
December 18 2012 07:07 GMT
#1211
On December 18 2012 15:24 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 14:54 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/

I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow.

Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her.

Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold...


I have no idea how this is calculated, but it seems to me that every single ability is only allowed to be casted once (look at the Karthus burst).


It's however much burst/damage you can unload at once OR for any sutained damage, damage that can be dealt while the enemy is under a CC such as malz ultimate.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
December 18 2012 07:09 GMT
#1212
On December 18 2012 16:04 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 18 2012 15:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 18 2012 14:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 18 2012 13:23 xMiragex wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:27 arb wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:19 jalstar wrote:
Got to level 26 and played my first game with people with ranked (silver in this case) borders. Since they were both on my team we won pretty easily.

*Borders don't show on the enemy team*

I've always been curious about this, sometimes i can see the unranked border on some of the enemy team and other times i cant, is it a graphical bug?


im 99% sure they show opposing team borders on normal only


ranked and normals it's hidden.
custom games it's not.


it's hidden in arams


o.o
Maybe I haven't played in way too long lol.
gg


Allies borders show in ALL games, and NEVER show for the enemy team. Not sure what people are smoking


This ^ Doesn't matter if it's normal, custom, or ranked. It's always the same. If you randomly spectate someone's game though you can see all 10 people's borders during the short loading screen.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
December 18 2012 07:21 GMT
#1213
On December 18 2012 13:56 Alaric wrote:
Hey TL! Thoughts about Blade of the Ruined King? I haven't seen it often (sometimes rushed on like Varus or Kog, they often end up behind and get squashed later; once on a Warwick but he started way behind then from some ks on high bounty champ he got fed so it didn't show at all how it was related to his build), and I find it pretty hard to stick a value on it, because of the %current hp nature of its on-hit.
Is it more than a physical on-hit equivalent to BT? Have some champs shown some promise with it?

It scales best with ArPen and AS, but except for the situational and short ghostblade active, nothing provides those stats, which means a build doing good use of BotRK would require most item slots on offensive stuff (it, ghostblade and/or BC or maybe LW, a (big) source of AS, boots already take 4-5 slots), which would limit it to ranged champions. In that case it simply isn't worth it in most cases because crit builds will outdamage it.
Maybe stuff like Varus/Cait could try to use it to abuse hurricane's huge AS and get a big amount of sustain from the on-hit not being reduced for secondary targets, but even then I don't see it as optimal.

I agree with what someone else has said, BotRK is more of a brusier item not an ADC item. That being said, I think its GREAT on jax, its the only person ive seen in solo Q build it consistently and its amazing on him. in my theorycraft i think it can also work on lee sin, especailly since wriggles sucks dick so you can go like madreds (or the philo-esque item) --> sightstone --> BotRK

idk, its weird though cause I thought it was like a AD-caster item when it came out but it just doesnt give enough +dmg for it to be ad caster, and seeing its success on jax makes me think maybe like darius/irelia/other cheesy toplaners can make it work too.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 18 2012 07:25 GMT
#1214
On December 18 2012 16:07 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 15:24 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 18 2012 14:54 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/150xib/i_made_this_graph_showing_all_ap_mid_champions/

I'm sort of surprised at how high ahri is O__O. Sitting right behind leblanc in terms of burst... Wow.

Makes sense why DFG first seems so damn strong on her.

Also, lol @TF, lowest burst in the midlane since W does almost no base damage if you pick a gold...


I have no idea how this is calculated, but it seems to me that every single ability is only allowed to be casted once (look at the Karthus burst).


It's however much burst/damage you can unload at once OR for any sutained damage, damage that can be dealt while the enemy is under a CC such as malz ultimate.

He only counted a second for Swain, despite Nevermove being 2s... anyway the premise is dumb because Nevermove not being instant means they can flash right before you cast it anyway. He works thinking that you cast W, and if it hits you get 1s from QER (yeah, projectile speed becomes infinite) then they flash out of the 2s cc.
Also 1.75s stun on Annie magically becomes 1s.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 07:35:50
December 18 2012 07:29 GMT
#1215
So me and a friend were hanging out today and I mentioned I want to try some new junglers that people don't use in S3 since it's so unexplored. I mentioned like Jungle Akali and we tried it. Seemed fun. With the machete opening you build into an early wriggle's then hextech gunblade. With 0/9/21 you stop taking damage at like lvl 4 or 5 from the jungle. I know her ganks are weak till lvl 6, but so are a lot of junglers atm and it seems fine.

Any thoughts? I have never even played akali before this, but I like using weird and different stuff, so I know for example Diana or Zed might be better, but want to try something different and have fun with it.

My first game (unranked)
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Edit: What I run.

Red: Flat AD
Yellow: Flat Armor
Blue: Flat AP
Quint: 1x Flat AD, 2x Flat AP

Masteries: 0/9/21 (Spell+Life Steal/EXP/CDR/20% buff extend)

Items: Machete+5pot > Wriggles > Sorc Boots > Hextech Gunblade > Whatever is needed
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 18 2012 07:35 GMT
#1216
Seuss loves Akali. Seuss loves PvEing the jungle. He loves gunblade even as much. So he combines the three and plays some Akali jungle at a yet to be disclosed frequency.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 18 2012 07:45 GMT
#1217
Dude, run Jungle Elise until she gets nerfed. She's broken as all hell. I'm loving it.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 18 2012 07:50 GMT
#1218
On December 18 2012 16:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Dude, run Jungle Elise until she gets nerfed. She's broken as all hell. I'm loving it.


She's one I do not own, saving up IP for her however.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 18 2012 07:55 GMT
#1219
On December 18 2012 16:50 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Dude, run Jungle Elise until she gets nerfed. She's broken as all hell. I'm loving it.


She's one I do not own, saving up IP for her however.


I got firstblooded by an invade and was like two levels behind and still blowing people up with my combo haha
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:07:45
December 18 2012 08:07 GMT
#1220
I tried jungle Akali pre-(S3)jungle a few times. However, I just went full-AD (phage -> hexdrinker -> randuin) instead of hybrid/AD, and went E first. Lifesteal from passive + Wriggles on E kept you sustained and allowed you to clear wolves/wraiths easily, not sure about the new jungle though.
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