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On December 18 2012 01:57 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:42 mr_tolkien wrote:On December 18 2012 01:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
No kid. THE RETURN. What do you guys think of Muramana btw ? Is it worth it if you don't build any other mana source ? I love to rush tear on many characters now that it is only 700g (it's just so good for its cost :o), but the Muramana seems kinda lackluster if your build is not tailored around it (Kha Zix anyone ?) You could always built it into the Archangel's Staff instead. The active on it's upgrade (the mana shield) is pretty useful. I think a lot of people talk about Manamune instead of Archangel's because of how strong it is on Ryze. Other AP's can probably utilize the Archangel's stats better.
A bit late, but I was thinking more of AD casters, like Kha'Zix. Seriously, tear is stupidly good on him, it's so convenient !!!
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On December 18 2012 05:05 xes wrote:
Blitz is incredibly strong at lower level because no one punishes for bad/missed hooks so any hook (even if you suck) is positive expected value.
on the other hand they do punish when your blitz grabs their malphite
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On December 18 2012 04:12 Chrispy wrote:I love that item because it's truly... + Show Spoiler +
-10 points for saying "truly" without following up with "...truly outrageous"
On December 18 2012 04:51 Sandster wrote:
Honestly, I feel like Blitz is banned in solo queue for late game than lane at this point. Even if you're confident your bot lane can dodge hooks, a single hook later in the game can be multiple towers or baron.
QFT. "Oh hey let me go walk by any wall in the game...WTF FREE BARON"
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AA Staff on Blitzcrank. Always mana shield, never not mana shield. h4h4h4h4
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i don't really use explorer's ward to cover my lane from ganks. It's so short in duration you have to go refresh it in a second anyway, which is a big hassle sometimes. 99% of the time i use it to cover lane bushes. Often the lane is going to move or something within 60 seconds anyway so you wouldn't 'really' get 3 minutes out of a green anyway.
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On December 18 2012 05:30 Requizen wrote:
AA Staff on Blitzcrank. Always mana shield, never not mana shield. h4h4h4h4
If only it wasn't annoying as fuck to actually charge up a tear on blitz...
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im still rushing athene on orianna/lux (like most pros) but it got nerfed horribly and i think morellos might be legitimately alot better choice, it gives 15ap,5%cdr more and costs 600g less(!!), yes u lose the mr but for that extra 600g u would spend on grail u can almost buy a chalice (if you really need it)
when i think more about it riot is retarded and definitely overnerfed AUG ...
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On December 18 2012 05:19 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:57 onlywonderboy wrote:On December 18 2012 01:42 mr_tolkien wrote:On December 18 2012 01:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
No kid. THE RETURN. What do you guys think of Muramana btw ? Is it worth it if you don't build any other mana source ? I love to rush tear on many characters now that it is only 700g (it's just so good for its cost :o), but the Muramana seems kinda lackluster if your build is not tailored around it (Kha Zix anyone ?) You could always built it into the Archangel's Staff instead. The active on it's upgrade (the mana shield) is pretty useful. I think a lot of people talk about Manamune instead of Archangel's because of how strong it is on Ryze. Other AP's can probably utilize the Archangel's stats better. A bit late, but I was thinking more of AD casters, like Kha'Zix. Seriously, tear is stupidly good on him, it's so convenient !!!
My bad, I just assumed the "many characters" you mentioned was referring to AP mids. Haven't really tried it any AD Casters (too busy buying BC hue) but I would see it being a nice choice if they are fairly mana hungry.
On December 18 2012 05:46 kongoline wrote:
im still rushing athene on orianna/lux (like most pros) but it got nerfed horribly and i think morellos might be legitimately alot better choice, it gives 15ap,5%cdr more and costs 600g less(!!), yes u lose the mr but for that extra 600g u would spend on grail u can almost buy a chalice (if you really need it)
when i think more about it riot is retarded and definitely overnerfed AUG ...
You could always just buy your Chalice and sit on it, the passive still makes it incredibly useful. Wait till max item build before making it a Grail, or just get Crucible for the utility if your team can be trusted. It's way more niche now, which is good because in it's last state it was probably too strong where almost any champ could rush it and be fine.
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I recently hit level 20 and I'm getting worried about the fact that I only play one champ all the time. I hear in ranked you ban heroes so I thought about diversifying my champion set a bit, but I'm not sure what I should try. I've played most with Lux, but I also am fairly comfortable with Ahri.
With those two champs as basis, can you recommend what champs I should try to learn? Other than free champs I mean. I don't want to end up as a one-champ gimmick player who gets 1:20 if my main choice is banned.
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On December 18 2012 05:19 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 01:57 onlywonderboy wrote:On December 18 2012 01:42 mr_tolkien wrote:On December 18 2012 01:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
No kid. THE RETURN. What do you guys think of Muramana btw ? Is it worth it if you don't build any other mana source ? I love to rush tear on many characters now that it is only 700g (it's just so good for its cost :o), but the Muramana seems kinda lackluster if your build is not tailored around it (Kha Zix anyone ?) You could always built it into the Archangel's Staff instead. The active on it's upgrade (the mana shield) is pretty useful. I think a lot of people talk about Manamune instead of Archangel's because of how strong it is on Ryze. Other AP's can probably utilize the Archangel's stats better. A bit late, but I was thinking more of AD casters, like Kha'Zix. Seriously, tear is stupidly good on him, it's so convenient !!!
I don't think Kha'Zix should have mana problems. I really like manamune on most old AD heros: Sion, Yi, Kayle. The mana helps their early game and the active helps them later on. I don't feel like you can rush it in the jungle though. Jungle hurts too much so I get madreds, but that slows down the muramana by about 5 minutes so you can't finish it at 25 minutes.
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On December 18 2012 05:00 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 04:27 onlywonderboy wrote:On December 18 2012 04:25 Lylat wrote:
Hey ! I don't really know the NA scene so I had a question : who's wingsofdeath ? On what team does he play ? He always has an insane amount of viewers and I've never heard of him oO Used to play for TSM.Evo, currently not on a team, rumors he is going to join Dig. A lot of people like his stream because he talks a lot and is informative, a lot of people (at least here anyway) hate it because he whines and claims he gets camped a lot and says "worth it" too often when his death probably wasn't worth it. I think that about sums it up. Nice thank you ! On a side note the biggest whiner about getting camped is Dyrus IMO lol
Clearly you haven't seen Wings. That guy either complains about ghosting or getting camped. And that's like every one of his deaths, unless it's flat out 1v1. Then he'll attest it to getting camped earlier in the game.
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On December 18 2012 06:08 Greentellon wrote:
I recently hit level 20 and I'm getting worried about the fact that I only play one champ all the time. I hear in ranked you ban heroes so I thought about diversifying my champion set a bit, but I'm not sure what I should try. I've played most with Lux, but I also am fairly comfortable with Ahri.
With those two champs as basis, can you recommend what champs I should try to learn? Other than free champs I mean. I don't want to end up as a one-champ gimmick player who gets 1:20 if my main choice is banned.
To be able to play ranked properly, you should at least be able to play 2 champions for each role, as you will never always end up in your favourite lane. Currently you can only play 2 mid lane champions, so try to diversify by playing different roles with completely different champions. Try a melee bruiser type for top lane or something maybe?
You could also go for a multi purpose champion like cho'gath. You can go top, mid and jungle with him, and even the occasional support role can suit him. He's also completely different from your current set of champs, so you get to learn the game in a different way!
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The item changes have really brought back one of my old favorites. I give you:
Miniguide to top lane tank Gragas:
0/21/9, some combination of tank, AD, and CDR runes (hybrid pen and attackspeed are also ok), Flash/Ghost and your choice of Ignite, Cleanse, Exhaust, or even some more niche summoners like CV. E>W>Q the way it was meant to be (seriously, ignore Q until you have to take it). Bully your lane with beefy body slams and stupid AD. As long as you only hit one dude with your slam, you do stupid damage. Press the assault with autoattacks or just back off afterwards.
Core items are Warmogs and Spirit Visage, with an optional Tear at some point. From there get whatever makes sense - good options include Frozen Heart or Iceborn Gauntlet or Trinity Force, Atma's, Randuin's, Crucible, Locket, or anything that gives you tankiness and utility.
In teamfights you can use your bulk to peel for your carries or scare away your enemy's carries. Try to barrel the enemy AD - 40% less aspd is huge. Use your ult disruptively; it still does crazy damage even with no AP though. Keep quaffing your booze whenever you can. (Bonus: if you hit EW really quickly, most of your drinking channel will be covered up by your dash animation).
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On December 18 2012 06:08 Greentellon wrote:
I recently hit level 20 and I'm getting worried about the fact that I only play one champ all the time. I hear in ranked you ban heroes so I thought about diversifying my champion set a bit, but I'm not sure what I should try. I've played most with Lux, but I also am fairly comfortable with Ahri.
With those two champs as basis, can you recommend what champs I should try to learn? Other than free champs I mean. I don't want to end up as a one-champ gimmick player who gets 1:20 if my main choice is banned.
Lux has a kit similar to Morg, but their playstyle is really different. Morg gets in your face, while Lux is a sniper.
TF is similar in playstyle: farm at range, have a semi-reliable cc, and a global that provides a lot of map pressure. And like Lux, very squishy when focused down.
Ahri is one of the safest mids while with high mobility, hard cc, and decent aoe or single target damage. There aren't many champs like her in the game. Diana is the closest, but she's like the Lux vs Morg thing (Ahri is much squisher and tends skirt on the edges of a fight, while Diana goes balls deep).
In all honesty though knowing 2-3 mids is fine. You need to learn the other roles to learn the game better, and for that just start with free champs. That's what pre-30 is all about.
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hey I made a support-fiddlesticks guide on lolking and i wonder waht you TL guys think cause you guys are some of the few people who would actually read the whole thing lol 
http://www.lolking.net/guides/48492
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On December 18 2012 04:19 GARO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 04:17 Crownlol wrote:On December 18 2012 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On December 18 2012 03:37 Crownlol wrote:On December 18 2012 03:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I have won a lot of games for free against shaco with explorer ward, If you are blue side you tell your support to ward dragon and it shows shaco going from his blue to your red.
Same apllies with blitzcrank, tell our support to go ward for blitz invade really fast then get a free win. You've played a blitz? Firstbanned in every game I've played this season. he's not as feared at 1900-2kish. He has a negative winrate so I never really ban him since you can just counterpick with taric or something. I usually go with Eve/Kat/lee sin as my bans considering changing kat to TF though, doesnt seem like mids can just destroy him anymore due to flask...hate that item. makes bad early champ games so OP now. Eve/TF/Kass are all pretty ridic mid now I'm playing in the 1300-1500 range, haven't been doing ranked games for too long. Blitz and Amumu are banned every game. How does Taric counter Blitz? By virtue of his tankiness and sustain? He wastes a pull + knockup on you, what the hell can their ADC do there than be ezreal at that point when you stun him because you got a free ride to his face? +outsustain
in addition to this hes just an overall solid support pick in solo queue, boasts the highest winrate of all supports and top in champs at 55%. He can get AD fed so easily and his auras are great. His stun is amazing in solo queue since people are always out of position, it can win games almost as much as blitz hook while being a much stronger team champ.
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Blitzcrank is just really, really annoying to play against.
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Taric is just so, so, SO boring to play.
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On December 18 2012 06:32 Sandster wrote:
Taric is just so, so, SO boring to play.
He is kind of broken right now, though...
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learn to love the max cdr max Q heal spam strat
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