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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
December 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#1101
On December 18 2012 06:08 Greentellon wrote:
I recently hit level 20 and I'm getting worried about the fact that I only play one champ all the time. I hear in ranked you ban heroes so I thought about diversifying my champion set a bit, but I'm not sure what I should try. I've played most with Lux, but I also am fairly comfortable with Ahri.

With those two champs as basis, can you recommend what champs I should try to learn? Other than free champs I mean. I don't want to end up as a one-champ gimmick player who gets 1:20 if my main choice is banned.


Hello, I was in the same predicament and have been experimenting with champs lately as well. I just recently bought Lux and love her style. Here are some similair champions (skillshots, supportish, high range, poistional):

- Morgana (Support just like Lux with a couple of differences - this has been my main for a while)
- Malzahar (can be played AP or AD)
- Ezrael (similair to Lux but is an AD carry)
- Ahri (I didn't like how squishy she was but is fun)
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 17 2012 21:34 GMT
#1102
On December 18 2012 06:33 Slayer91 wrote:
learn to love the max cdr max Q heal spam strat


Whack a champion, gets 3 seconds off Q CD.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 17 2012 21:34 GMT
#1103
On December 18 2012 06:29 Sufficiency wrote:
Blitzcrank is just really, really annoying to play against.

That's really what it boils down to. Most champs can play against him with no problem, but it requires a specific mindset and playstyle in and of itself almost. I can't think of a single support that you have to pay attention to and know the cooldowns as much as you do Blitz. Some people don't know how to play against him, and others don't like doing it because it's annoying.
It's your boy Guzma!
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
December 17 2012 21:34 GMT
#1104
On December 18 2012 06:14 diLLa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:08 Greentellon wrote:
I recently hit level 20 and I'm getting worried about the fact that I only play one champ all the time. I hear in ranked you ban heroes so I thought about diversifying my champion set a bit, but I'm not sure what I should try. I've played most with Lux, but I also am fairly comfortable with Ahri.

With those two champs as basis, can you recommend what champs I should try to learn? Other than free champs I mean. I don't want to end up as a one-champ gimmick player who gets 1:20 if my main choice is banned.


To be able to play ranked properly, you should at least be able to play 2 champions for each role, as you will never always end up in your favourite lane. Currently you can only play 2 mid lane champions, so try to diversify by playing different roles with completely different champions. Try a melee bruiser type for top lane or something maybe?

You could also go for a multi purpose champion like cho'gath. You can go top, mid and jungle with him, and even the occasional support role can suit him. He's also completely different from your current set of champs, so you get to learn the game in a different way!



I believe Lux can go mid or bot support
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 21:36:45
December 17 2012 21:36 GMT
#1105
On December 18 2012 06:08 Greentellon wrote:
I recently hit level 20 and I'm getting worried about the fact that I only play one champ all the time. I hear in ranked you ban heroes so I thought about diversifying my champion set a bit, but I'm not sure what I should try. I've played most with Lux, but I also am fairly comfortable with Ahri.

With those two champs as basis, can you recommend what champs I should try to learn? Other than free champs I mean. I don't want to end up as a one-champ gimmick player who gets 1:20 if my main choice is banned.


Honestly it sounds like you prefer poke champions since that's practically all Lux does and Ahri excels at poking too. Someone suggested TF but for mid lane you could also consider Xerath and AP Kog'maw. Assuming you like to play champions that excel at ranged poke Nidalee and Jayce are two good options to consider for top lane, Caitlyn and Ezreal might be good options for AD carry, and you could pick up Sona for support (or even learn to play Lux support). There really aren't any junglers that I can think of that do long range poke.

I'm just kind of assuming you like to poke people down from range since Lux and Ahri happen to be my favorite mids and that's kind of the same play style that I like.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 17 2012 21:41 GMT
#1106
Working on new stats cost atm, and new cost-effectivness of items :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUCP-Gr4hvBoSer4j3qZPIu9LM7I1VkSU4YelKeoWpA/edit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApcDmhu0hIeddFNnSWpSZmRxVzlXclVXZk8zWC1BOVE

If some of you guys want to help...
The legend of Darien lives on
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 17 2012 21:55 GMT
#1107
syndra is a pretty easy transition for a lux/ahri player, i think
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 17 2012 22:01 GMT
#1108
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.
twitch.tv/TKSaga twitter.com/TKSagaTV YT: Tinyurl.com/TKSaga
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 17 2012 22:04 GMT
#1109
On December 18 2012 06:18 Tooplark wrote:
The item changes have really brought back one of my old favorites. I give you:
Miniguide to top lane tank Gragas:
0/21/9, some combination of tank, AD, and CDR runes (hybrid pen and attackspeed are also ok), Flash/Ghost and your choice of Ignite, Cleanse, Exhaust, or even some more niche summoners like CV. E>W>Q the way it was meant to be (seriously, ignore Q until you have to take it). Bully your lane with beefy body slams and stupid AD. As long as you only hit one dude with your slam, you do stupid damage. Press the assault with autoattacks or just back off afterwards.
Core items are Warmogs and Spirit Visage, with an optional Tear at some point. From there get whatever makes sense - good options include Frozen Heart or Iceborn Gauntlet or Trinity Force, Atma's, Randuin's, Crucible, Locket, or anything that gives you tankiness and utility.
In teamfights you can use your bulk to peel for your carries or scare away your enemy's carries. Try to barrel the enemy AD - 40% less aspd is huge. Use your ult disruptively; it still does crazy damage even with no AP though. Keep quaffing your booze whenever you can. (Bonus: if you hit EW really quickly, most of your drinking channel will be covered up by your dash animation).


As an aside to this body slam procs furor boots no matter how many targets you hit with it.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 17 2012 22:14 GMT
#1110
On December 18 2012 06:28 spellsy wrote:
hey I made a support-fiddlesticks guide on lolking and i wonder waht you TL guys think cause you guys are some of the few people who would actually read the whole thing lol

http://www.lolking.net/guides/48492

I read it from your thread and liked it, I'm not that much of a support player (I do think I know more about it than most bot lane soloQ players, but that's not hard) and never played Fiddle outside of an ARAM when he was free but you explain all of your choices, and give pointers as to how he shouldn't be played so people don't do too many mistakes.
I disagree with you about the building philo thing, but that's because I stopped considering shurelya as a priority buy long ago so now that the regen was nerfed I don't get it at all anymore.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 17 2012 22:14 GMT
#1111
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


Could be worse =)
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 17 2012 22:19 GMT
#1112
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


That's an accomplishment.You should be proud.1600-1800 is WORST elo by far.There are random people who shouldn't be 1200 and random people who should be 2k lol and that makes about 50% of the elo.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
December 17 2012 22:26 GMT
#1113
On December 18 2012 07:19 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


That's an accomplishment.You should be proud.1600-1800 is WORST elo by far.There are random people who shouldn't be 1200 and random people who should be 2k lol and that makes about 50% of the elo.


This has been my experience too lol. Must be the real elo hell.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 17 2012 22:34 GMT
#1114
On December 18 2012 07:19 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


That's an accomplishment.You should be proud.1600-1800 is WORST elo by far.There are random people who shouldn't be 1200 and random people who should be 2k lol and that makes about 50% of the elo.



What would be the best approach to getting out of this elo?
twitch.tv/TKSaga twitter.com/TKSagaTV YT: Tinyurl.com/TKSaga
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 17 2012 22:37 GMT
#1115
On December 18 2012 07:34 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:19 nafta wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


That's an accomplishment.You should be proud.1600-1800 is WORST elo by far.There are random people who shouldn't be 1200 and random people who should be 2k lol and that makes about 50% of the elo.



What would be the best approach to getting out of this elo?

Sacrifice to the ELOGods, usually. Any virgin will do.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 17 2012 22:38 GMT
#1116
On December 18 2012 07:34 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:19 nafta wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


That's an accomplishment.You should be proud.1600-1800 is WORST elo by far.There are random people who shouldn't be 1200 and random people who should be 2k lol and that makes about 50% of the elo.



What would be the best approach to getting out of this elo?


Duo q or just play enough games.Solo ranking in team game is just dumb in my opinion(not to mention you get same elo for carrying or getting carried which is also stupid) so you'll just have to get a lucky streak or just play enough games to get out.Most times I gain elo(and I am sure others as well) they get a really good streak and go up like 200 elo in 2 days and then stagnate again.But who am I to talk I've been at 1810-1860 for like 2 weeks now and it's just troll/flame fests mostly XD.But then you get 1 good game with normal human beings and think "wow that was actually fun" so it's not that bad.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 17 2012 22:39 GMT
#1117
On December 18 2012 07:34 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:19 nafta wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Started playing today at 1674 elo,

after about ten games

back at 1674 elo.

Never went higher.


That's an accomplishment.You should be proud.1600-1800 is WORST elo by far.There are random people who shouldn't be 1200 and random people who should be 2k lol and that makes about 50% of the elo.



What would be the best approach to getting out of this elo?


Be better than everyone else at that elo.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 22:41:28
December 17 2012 22:41 GMT
#1118
I found at that ELO nobody knows how to jungle effectively so yeah just stomp the other jungler and be more useful than him and you have a good chance of getting out

Oh and take timers, you would be surprised on how many people don't and always ask WHEN IS DRAG? WHEN IS BARON?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 17 2012 22:44 GMT
#1119
On December 18 2012 06:28 spellsy wrote:
hey I made a support-fiddlesticks guide on lolking and i wonder waht you TL guys think cause you guys are some of the few people who would actually read the whole thing lol

http://www.lolking.net/guides/48492


you're into the philo rush huh? I'm surprised you don't like bottle
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 17 2012 22:55 GMT
#1120
i got bored of destroying people with normal Elise, so know I'm trying out AD elise

Maxed out without items she has

about base 100ad
5 spiderlings which deal 40 physical each, 200ad
140% AS steroid for both
massive gap closer
Free AR and MR
% health damage Q which isn't entirely useless when you go ad

So with some Ad items and like tri or mallet to stick on people she can destroy anyone in seconds. I crapped on a few top lanes with her, and then lost pretty hard to an ap yi mid because I got bored and tried to kill him, which is not possible in lane.

Seems pretty good though, not sure what to build. You want CDR because spider abilities are free and spiderlings get your Arpen , so probably cleaver, then maybe just BT or maybe rageblade....you could buy nashors on her....

I'll keep trying it
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