EPTEG is not a training house, it doesn't help people grow, it help people already grown up to get known and have the structure behind them to fly out wherever they want until they are washed up.
TL is a good structure where player can grow.
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
EG is not a training house, it doesn't help people grow, it help people already grown up to get known and have the structure behind them to fly out wherever they want until they are washed up. TL is a good structure where player can grow. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On January 02 2013 00:22 WhiteDog wrote: EG never accomplished anything in SC2 aside from buying competitive players and watching them win. What could they do for TSM or CLG ? Makes random video for them ? Give them free Monster drink ? EG is not a training house, it doesn't help people grow, it help people already grown up to get known and have the structure behind them to fly out wherever they want until they are washed up. TL is a good structure where player can grow. That's not true at all.Unless you are willing to move to Korea where TL has a "team house"(which wasn't a team house even,I'm talking about before the TL-EG partnership) I don't see a single reason why TL would be a good place to grow new talent. Oh and TL signed Hero and Taeja,who are just as good as any player EG has ever signed,if not better.So I never understood why people have this notion that EG buys their way into the top competitive spots when TL has done the same thing. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 02 2013 00:22 WhiteDog wrote: EG never accomplished anything in SC2 aside from buying competitive players and watching them win. What could they do for TSM or CLG ? Makes random video for them ? Give them free Monster drink ? EG is not a training house, it doesn't help people grow, it help people already grown up to get known and have the structure behind them to fly out wherever they want until they are washed up. TL is a good structure where player can grow. Only TLO ever actually improved and grew, and even then, he wasn't even in their teamhouse when the majority of that happened. So dunno if you can attribute that to TL, I'd more attribute it to himself. Other than that, nobody ever got significantly better while on TL. Tru fax You are just blinded by fanboyism. You want to hate on EG, which is totally okay, cause they deserve it, but to say TL is better in that regard is ignorant. Don't get me wrong, I love TL as much as the next guy, but at least be real about it. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
On January 02 2013 00:19 nojitosunrise wrote: I don't care what anyone else claims or says. EG has most definitely approached TSM/CLG/maybe even Epik Gamer. I think they hate league of legends so much because those teams all turned them down. They did. the deals were crap. no one took them, EG stuck to stuff they knew. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On January 02 2013 00:33 nojitosunrise wrote: ex-CLG.EU switches to Twitch https://twitter.com/TwitchTV/status/286132553595908096 great news now I can watch Krepo all day and night  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Reminds me of LoD saying yesterday on stream that a difference between western and asian progamers is that while the latter are expected to pour all of their time into becoming better (or the best) at the game and improving and training, the former are also expected to be interact with the fanbase, putting up news on sites, tweeting, updating facebook status and stuff, and that's impossible for them to only be playing because their is that "social media" expectations to fulfill and that they have to devote their own time to. I don't known which question sparked it tho, was on his stream chat. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21600 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:09 Alaric wrote: Reminds me of LoD saying yesterday on stream that a difference between western and asian progamers is that while the latter are expected to pour all of their time into becoming better (or the best) at the game and improving and training, the former are also expected to be interact with the fanbase, putting up news on sites, tweeting, updating facebook status and stuff, and that's impossible for them to only be playing because their is that "social media" expectations to fulfill and that they have to devote their own time to. I don't known which question sparked it tho, was on his stream chat. yes the 20minutes in a day they spend tweeting/facebook is why they lose and not there horrible soloQ practice | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21600 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:13 Ketara wrote: It really is depressing to see LoL and SC2 bash on each other. They shouldn't. They have very little reason to be in competition at all, and should be mutually supportive of each other. There target audience dont even really overlap being different genre's. I do believe in the end it all comes down to envy. SC2 didnt go big. LoL did so they hate it. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:13 Ketara wrote: It really is depressing to see LoL and SC2 bash on each other. They shouldn't. They have very little reason to be in competition at all, and should be mutually supportive of each other. Where do you see LoL players bashing SC2 players? | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:17 Gorsameth wrote: There target audience dont even really overlap being different genre's. I do believe in the end it all comes down to envy. SC2 didnt go big. LoL did so they hate it. I wonder how big a game has to be to "go big" if SC2 isn't included. Bazillion streamers, tournaments constantly and a huge community. Is LoL bigger? Sure, because it's THE biggest game. Doesn't mean SC2 didn't make it huge in comparison to other games. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It's just dumb. And as far as the Incontrol quote goes, I think less of him for it. But my opinion of him has been pretty low since that State of the Game video or whichever talk show it was. Which is sad because a year ago I thought he was a pretty cool guy. Also, to be fair. Incontrol has 45,000 twitter followers https://twitter.com/EGiNcontroL Theoddone has 49,000 https://twitter.com/TSMTheOddOne Not that this is indicative of anything, other than maybe Incontrol shouldn't go around making those sorts of statements. I don't understand what anybody gains by making them. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
No idea if he's been duoing with someone that carried him though but looking up his stats on lolking, they aren't too impressive, except for the solid Draven. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On January 02 2013 00:49 Dandel Ion wrote: Only TLO ever actually improved and grew, and even then, he wasn't even in their teamhouse when the majority of that happened. So dunno if you can attribute that to TL, I'd more attribute it to himself. Other than that, nobody ever got significantly better while on TL. Tru fax You are just blinded by fanboyism. You want to hate on EG, which is totally okay, cause they deserve it, but to say TL is better in that regard is ignorant. Don't get me wrong, I love TL as much as the next guy, but at least be real about it. I'd say Jinro got significantly better, though he slumped pretty hard after that and never really got back into it. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:17 Gorsameth wrote: There target audience dont even really overlap being different genre's. I do believe in the end it all comes down to envy. SC2 didnt go big. LoL did so they hate it. "my dick soft is still longer than yours hard" | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:29 cascades wrote: Taeja improved from pretender to contender. I call BS To more LoL-related things: Cyanide is worst QWOP player EU. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 02 2013 01:14 Gorsameth wrote: yes the 20minutes in a day they spend tweeting/facebook is why they lose and not there horrible soloQ practice Not saying it has to do with performances, just that it reminded me of it, in terms of expectations. One could also say that it's the fact that the Korean scene is run by organizations in comparison to the western scene that has a lot of known players not on a sponsored team. Regarding Pantheon vs Darius, Q and E have 600 range and a windup animation or channel, Darius' pull has 550 range, so if he has more MS than you and is keeping himself aware he should be able to pull you in whenever he wants during your harass. His Q also deals more damage with the blade than Panth's Q (need a bit more than 100 bonus AD at level 1 Qs to make up for it) so your saving grace is your shorter cd and greater range, making harass easier especially at earlier levels (before he gets his E). If you lose a trade it's hard to escape Darius because of his passive (DoT adds ~100 damage post-mitigation easily at level 5, and more importantly the MS buff) and low-medium cooldowns on Q and W (since he gets stacks to shorten W). A good Darius will auto you then W to make sure you don't block it with your passive either. So Pantheon wins in harass but loses trades really, really hard, and thus gets zoned more easily. I'd say it depends on your ability to whittle Darius down that he can't all-in you without dying first (needs to be significantly lower than you), and to make up for the damage you underwent before his pull is available again. | ||
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