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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 30 2012 11:39 GMT
#4221
TIL People in league can be nice.

So I'm a mid platinum level player, but my rl friend is barely able to hold onto his silver rank. He asked me to play so I figured why not and queued us up for a normal blind pick game. My friend instalocks jungle Lee Sin his favorite champion, the team instantly gets upset. So I try my best and fill in with whats needed. Then to make the hostile team even more frustrated they discover their jungler is a silver banner scrub. He tried his best but unfortunately for him, he didn't do very well. He begins to do his red, after having us assist him with his blue. Sure enough an ally has been slain floats across the screen. He got killed in a counter jungle by a person called Shakedrizzle, another lee sin player. The rest of our team rages at him, and decide its a hopeless game. Continuing to put forth our best effort to win the game, we still ended up losing. So this part explains the usual of why some players are toxic, lets get to the nice part. After the game, my buddy was a bit low and wanted to just log off. A few moments before he did, he received a friend invite from Shake. He offered him advice, said he played alright. Then the best part, Shake offered to spectate my buddies game and give him some free coaching. So instead of my buddy having a miserable day, Shake really turned it around for him. Lee remains his favorite champion and he bought his first skin. On behalf of the less hostile part of the community I would like to say thank you Shake. Oh btw he streams....
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 30 2012 11:40 GMT
#4222
You forgot to plug in my twitter and facebook. You're fired.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 30 2012 11:41 GMT
#4223
Veigar as top skill cap champ? Uh...I don't see how... his skill is landing his stun, then spam all your skills and DFG. Other than stun he doesn't even have a skillshot. E isn't fast enough to ever land on someone non retarded unless they decide to eat it while chasing or are stunned out. Not to hate on Veig but I would never put him anywhere near top of skill ceiling.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
December 30 2012 11:50 GMT
#4224
On December 30 2012 20:41 sob3k wrote:
Veigar as top skill cap champ? Uh...I don't see how... his skill is landing his stun, then spam all your skills and DFG. Other than stun he doesn't even have a skillshot. E isn't fast enough to ever land on someone non retarded unless they decide to eat it while chasing or are stunned out. Not to hate on Veig but I would never put him anywhere near top of skill ceiling.



I think thats putting an over-emphasis on skillshots though as the hardest part of a champion. I have to admit I don't know much about Veigar but as I understand it he has a pretty rough laning phase nowadays. Easily the hardest parts of laning (for me at least) is knowing how to trade in each matchup, knowing what would happen if the jungler appeared right now and who would win if my opponent and I just fought to the death right now and I imagine thats pretty tough for Veigar. He has to choose between farming and trading with Q, and W/E/R combo can't really trade, he has to all-in or nothing with no mobility to fall back on.

Hardest champ in the game is still Sona by a long, long way but no-one will agree with me.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 11:52:19
December 30 2012 11:51 GMT
#4225
The plugs would get saved for the comments. Use a throwaway for my silver banner friend and have him chime in with.

"Thank you so much Shake! I hope one day to be able to face off against you again in ranked! Another thanks too for not just removing me afterwards."

With another throwaway for the comment below
"I always figured Shake was a good guy. I follow him on twitter @ShakeDrizzle and he says really helpful things. His videos as well are seriously steps ahead of the competition. Youtube plug.

Gtfo facebook too much whoring!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 11:54:23
December 30 2012 11:54 GMT
#4226
This guy should have been in charge of romneys PR team.
Cackle™
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2012 12:04 GMT
#4227
Irave
Impose

the truth comes out
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 30 2012 12:17 GMT
#4228
I always figured Shake was a good guy. I follow him on witter @ShakeWizzle and he says really helpful things. His wideos as well are seriously steps ahead of the competition. His Woutube is also rad.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 30 2012 12:32 GMT
#4229
On December 30 2012 20:50 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 20:41 sob3k wrote:
Veigar as top skill cap champ? Uh...I don't see how... his skill is landing his stun, then spam all your skills and DFG. Other than stun he doesn't even have a skillshot. E isn't fast enough to ever land on someone non retarded unless they decide to eat it while chasing or are stunned out. Not to hate on Veig but I would never put him anywhere near top of skill ceiling.



I think thats putting an over-emphasis on skillshots though as the hardest part of a champion. I have to admit I don't know much about Veigar but as I understand it he has a pretty rough laning phase nowadays. Easily the hardest parts of laning (for me at least) is knowing how to trade in each matchup, knowing what would happen if the jungler appeared right now and who would win if my opponent and I just fought to the death right now and I imagine thats pretty tough for Veigar. He has to choose between farming and trading with Q, and W/E/R combo can't really trade, he has to all-in or nothing with no mobility to fall back on.

Hardest champ in the game is still Sona by a long, long way but no-one will agree with me.


Its not an over emphasis on skillshots, its just that skillshots have all the same hard decisions attached to them as a targeted ability, plus you actually have to land them.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
December 30 2012 12:45 GMT
#4230
Shake is the most bm player ever wtf.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 13:10:59
December 30 2012 12:50 GMT
#4231
On December 30 2012 21:32 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 20:50 TheLink wrote:
On December 30 2012 20:41 sob3k wrote:
Veigar as top skill cap champ? Uh...I don't see how... his skill is landing his stun, then spam all your skills and DFG. Other than stun he doesn't even have a skillshot. E isn't fast enough to ever land on someone non retarded unless they decide to eat it while chasing or are stunned out. Not to hate on Veig but I would never put him anywhere near top of skill ceiling.



I think thats putting an over-emphasis on skillshots though as the hardest part of a champion. I have to admit I don't know much about Veigar but as I understand it he has a pretty rough laning phase nowadays. Easily the hardest parts of laning (for me at least) is knowing how to trade in each matchup, knowing what would happen if the jungler appeared right now and who would win if my opponent and I just fought to the death right now and I imagine thats pretty tough for Veigar. He has to choose between farming and trading with Q, and W/E/R combo can't really trade, he has to all-in or nothing with no mobility to fall back on.

Hardest champ in the game is still Sona by a long, long way but no-one will agree with me.


Its not an over emphasis on skillshots, its just that skillshots have all the same hard decisions attached to them as a targeted ability, plus you actually have to land them.


You're treating target selection/skill usage as the only "difficult" part of a champion, when it's more complex than that. Item selection, positioning, etc. are all important things that contribute to a hero's difficulty.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 30 2012 12:58 GMT
#4232
Shamrock malphite or go home guys sorry
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 30 2012 13:00 GMT
#4233
On December 30 2012 21:58 Slayer91 wrote:
Shamrock malphite or go home guys sorry


fk you, glacial es best
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 30 2012 13:01 GMT
#4234
Vanilla Malphite > All
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2012 13:06 GMT
#4235
I actually like the white one the best

noracist
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 30 2012 13:08 GMT
#4236
Coral Reef Malphite is best Malphite.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 30 2012 13:50 GMT
#4237
I think was can all agree Malphite has a pretty good stable of good skins.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 30 2012 13:54 GMT
#4238
Hecarim is the only one that has a stable
A backwards poet writes inverse.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 14:01:24
December 30 2012 14:00 GMT
#4239
For those wondering, Aphro is moving into the CLG House afterall.

Edit: I know some people were questioning this since the press release specifically mentioned Link moving in but not Aphro.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
December 30 2012 14:03 GMT
#4240
On December 30 2012 22:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hecarim is the only one that has a stable


I see what you did there.

And, glacial is definitely my favourite Malphite skin, one of my favourite skins in general in fact.
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