EPT[Patch 1.0.0.153: Preseason Balance Update 1] GD - Page 18
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Sufficiency
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Alaric
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Sufficiency
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Alaric
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On December 15 2012 04:41 sylverfyre wrote: Roaming on support is more likely to leave your duo laner behind in gold from getting zoned harassed away from CS. Their support can just get in his face and make him completely back off. Roaming was suggested as a response to "what to do when you're support and you're farmed," which means that your duo laner should be stronger than theirs. When I roam with a Janna or Lulu and we've been winning by getting 2-3 lane kills, my main goal is to ward mid lane or the enemy jungle, and gank if the opportunity presents itself but otherwise I head back to lane right away. (I don't play the more aggressive supports like Blitz/Leona/Taric/Ali, though, so my gank isn't particularly strong.) Even if you're behind on exp, your ADC *should* be getting more exp, but you do have to use your judgment based on enemy vision, whether or not your lane is pushed, and how strong your ADC is relative to theirs. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 15 2012 04:57 Alaric wrote: What are you talking about? Name change | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On December 15 2012 04:47 Alaric wrote: Wow. I know there was a tribunal discussion somewhere in there, but you guys post so much in 48h. o_o I thought "I'll just spend a few hours catching back up" then there are 40+ pages. Well. One tab closed. I don't think you missed a whole lot tbh.... | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
and sometimes hard to see because of character color .___. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 15 2012 04:41 sylverfyre wrote: Nrated and other pro Zyra players would beg to differ, in S2 going 2 GP10s -> getting Zhonyas at around 25 mins. But Zhonya isn't deathcap, the activate makes it special and allows you to make plays (especially as a notoriously squishy support) you can't make without it. Deathcap just adds damage. Roaming on support is more likely to leave your duo laner behind in gold from getting zoned harassed away from CS. Their support can just get in his face and make him completely back off. I misinterpreted the discussion, I didn't realize we were already assuming you have an advantage, in that case if your ADC plays it safe enough roaming is probably a good idea. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
1. Can barely see it. Our rammus stole a clutch baron and I had no idea until after the fight since they are barely visible purple gumdrops. 2. hard on new players and gives ambiguity which they specifically said they dont want...then go ahead and do it. You have to be really observant to see if their jungler has red/blue buff or not. 3. Doesnt give a feeling of power at all whereas the old buffs were big and mighty these are just small little puny things. ESPECIALLY the baron buff. worth thousands of gold and its a couple gumdrops floating around you? ridiculous | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote: haha how do these changes get through I dont understand. Who actually thought these buffs look better than the old ones? 1. Can barely see it. Our rammus stole a clutch baron and I had no idea until after the fight since they are barely visible purple gumdrops. 2. hard on new players and gives ambiguity which they specifically said they dont want...then go ahead and do it. You have to be really observant to see if their jungler has red/blue buff or not. 3. Doesnt give a feeling of power at all whereas the old buffs were big and mighty these are just small little puny things. ESPECIALLY the baron buff. worth thousands of gold and its a couple gumdrops floating around you? ridiculous I think the new buffs look quite nice. Who are you to speak for everyone when you say "Who actually thought these buffs look better than the old ones?" | ||
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On December 15 2012 04:45 TheYango wrote: If you have a roaming support, you don't put your AD in a 1v2. That should be obvious. You run your AD in a solo lane matchup and put a strong 1v2 top laner against their duo lane. or you might be winning the lane so hard that they can't zone your AD, that happens sometimes as well (though uncommon). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:41 Tula wrote: or you might be winning the lane so hard that they can't zone your AD, that happens sometimes as well (though uncommon). Ok, so you turn a winning lane into an even lane (because even though they can't zone your AD, you can't zone theirs anymore when you leave), in order to get the CHANCE of winning a lane somewhere else? | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:39 thenexusp wrote: I think the new buffs look quite nice. Who are you to speak for everyone when you say "Who actually thought these buffs look better than the old ones?" Speaks for me, they blend in with all the other item buffs despite being much more significant. Want them to be instantly noticeable at a glance, like they used to be. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 15 2012 05:39 thenexusp wrote: I think the new buffs look quite nice. Who are you to speak for everyone when you say "Who actually thought these buffs look better than the old ones?" playing devil's advocate is cute but you're gonna have to give some reasons if you actually want to have a discussion | ||
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koreasilver
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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