• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:51
CET 03:51
KST 11:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
[D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Username Change Request - Toxickej Kapr Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Sagi.gg Launcher Released Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [Mixed-Gender CK] Rush+4 vs Best+4 [BSL23] RO24 Group F - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 25425 users

[Patch 1.0.0.153: Preseason Balance Update 1] GD - Page 19

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 451 Next
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 14 2012 21:07 GMT
#361
i wanna try so Ap Yi now, what are solid builds on him?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2012 21:14 GMT
#362
On December 15 2012 05:59 koreasilver wrote:
Someone disagrees with you so they're a devil's advocate? Get your head out of your ass.


or he could explain why he thinks its good? Some one is upset.
I come in for the scraps
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 21:18:42
December 14 2012 21:15 GMT
#363
Got Poliwhirl as my new name WOOP. GG NO RE. New DFG is really good on reset champs, 15% total hp damage + 20% more damage from AP. There are 2 different ways to build him, CDR or mass AP/Pen.
wot?
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 14 2012 21:34 GMT
#364
--- Nuked ---
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 14 2012 21:38 GMT
#365
On December 15 2012 05:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:41 Tula wrote:
On December 15 2012 04:45 TheYango wrote:
On December 15 2012 04:36 BlACKTrA wrote:
Usually the adc will either or lose the whole farm because he gets zoned or die due 2vs1 on the bot lane...
I dont think roaming as a support is a good idea unless your adc knows what he is doing

If you have a roaming support, you don't put your AD in a 1v2. That should be obvious. You run your AD in a solo lane matchup and put a strong 1v2 top laner against their duo lane.

or you might be winning the lane so hard that they can't zone your AD, that happens sometimes as well (though uncommon).

Ok, so you turn a winning lane into an even lane (because even though they can't zone your AD, you can't zone theirs anymore when you leave), in order to get the CHANCE of winning a lane somewhere else?

if i can take mid tower, yes (as support i won't go top, it's too far. lol.)

also, if they can't zone your AD, just because you're not increasing the advantage doesn't mean you've lost the advantage. if ADC is 2000 gold ahead, maintaining the 2000 gold lead is not necessarily a bad tactic. nor is it completely invalidated when the support roams for a brief time, because the support can come back and zone the lane or even gank depending on how far ahead the lane is.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 14 2012 21:38 GMT
#366
On December 15 2012 06:34 stormtemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 06:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:59 koreasilver wrote:
Someone disagrees with you so they're a devil's advocate? Get your head out of your ass.


or he could explain why he thinks its good? Some one is upset.


...It's aesthetics. He likes how they look. Does he have to go into a point by point for you to get it? You can look at something and go "Wow that's nice looking" without describing its attributes.


The guy doesnt like when you put words in his mouth so you might want to be careful. lets hear what he has to say for himself.
I come in for the scraps
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 14 2012 21:41 GMT
#367
--- Nuked ---
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 21:42:48
December 14 2012 21:41 GMT
#368
IPL released their viewership numbers, some pretty interesting stuff. Quick recap:

454,000 concurrent viewers
60.7 million total views
6 million unique viewers
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
December 14 2012 21:44 GMT
#369
there was literally nothing wrong with the red/blue/baron buffs... why did they have to change them?
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2012 21:45 GMT
#370
I personally don't like the new buff changes. @_@
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 14 2012 21:46 GMT
#371
wow wtf. the new buffs are seriously invisible.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#372
Guys, I want to change my name. Any suggestions?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 14 2012 21:52 GMT
#373
I would never do 2v1 lanes if I were going to be involved in either of them. Winning is great but I don't want to do it at the cost of having to play a miserable and boring lane for 20 min.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#374
On December 15 2012 06:52 Slow Motion wrote:
I would never do 2v1 lanes if I were going to be involved in either of them. Winning is great but I don't want to do it at the cost of having to play a miserable and boring lane for 20 min.

No one preserves 2v1 lanes for 20 minutes.

In fact, by and large the tempo of the game goes faster with a lane swap because the sidelane towers go down more quickly, forcing earlier map movement.
Moderator
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#375
On December 15 2012 06:44 Perplex wrote:
there was literally nothing wrong with the red/blue/baron buffs... why did they have to change them?

I don't see anything in the patch notes, what did they change about them?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#376
On December 15 2012 06:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
I personally don't like the new buff changes. @_@

Ya they look like straight shit
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 22:01:38
December 14 2012 21:58 GMT
#377
On December 15 2012 06:56 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 06:44 Perplex wrote:
there was literally nothing wrong with the red/blue/baron buffs... why did they have to change them?

I don't see anything in the patch notes, what did they change about them?


They're tiny little circle particles floating underneath people's feet. It's faster to manually click people and check to see if they have buffs than look for the buffs. I'm not exaggerating, they're almost impossible to see.

Baron is visible, though, because it still shows up as objects floating around the heroes, even though they're really small. But blue and red you just can't distinguish at all.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
December 14 2012 22:01 GMT
#378
On December 15 2012 06:51 Sufficiency wrote:
Guys, I want to change my name. Any suggestions?

Pokemon names !! :D
wot?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 22:04:26
December 14 2012 22:02 GMT
#379
On December 15 2012 06:51 Sufficiency wrote:
Guys, I want to change my name. Any suggestions?

Name Insufficient

One problem with the new buffs is that they compete for real estate with auras now like Legion/Abyssal/etc

It gets really cluttered under the character model
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 14 2012 22:03 GMT
#380
I liked the way they look aesthetically, they just needs to be more visible.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 451 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
CranKy Ducklings47
CranKy Ducklings SOOP29
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 157
EnDerr 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3325
GuemChi 1925
Artosis 541
Leta 182
ProTech169
Force[name] 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever687
PGG 394
League of Legends
Doublelift4611
Counter-Strike
taco 626
Other Games
summit1g9964
singsing1452
Day[9].tv929
Coldzera 869
fl0m741
JimRising 536
XaKoH 289
C9.Mang0255
Maynarde106
ViBE76
NeuroSwarm65
Fuzer 24
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV153
Counter-Strike
PGL106
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv929
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 8h
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
1d 14h
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
1d 16h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.