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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On December 24 2012 11:12 Vingle wrote: Riot was just trying to discourage doran's stacking. How commonly bought are they in S3, anyway? Compared to S2? They are rare. It's mostly just the stragglers who haven't adapted yet who are still buying them. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The one thing I wish is that Riot brought up the sell-back cost. There's no need for the items to be 40% sell-back when flat HP on attack, mana on last-hit, and damage block are inherently early game-focused stats to begin with. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And doran items are better early game than they were s2, but stacking them starts being less efficient earlier, and they're weaker by midgame in general. I'm a bit annoyed because with an augment/deathcap core on Viktor I don't have much to spend little sums on. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I have no idea about the rings/Shields though. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On December 24 2012 11:41 barbsq wrote: are dorans really that bad? What should i be getting as an hp buffer then? Mid ap? Guise. Top lane/ ad bruiser? Phage/Cleaver/Aegis/Mogs etc. Jungler? Sightstone/Aegis/Ruby cystal items etc. AD? Isn't a good choice really for hp buffer, just rush your BT for sustain. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On December 24 2012 11:35 TheYango wrote: I'd say all the Doran's are reasonable as one-ofs. They're weaker later on, but I think they're all designed to be geared specifically at early game. The one thing I wish is that Riot brought up the sell-back cost. There's no need for the items to be 40% sell-back when flat HP on attack, mana on last-hit, and damage block are inherently early game-focused stats to begin with. I dunno. I really like the new Dblades when jungling. Though maybe I should be getting wriggles for jungling. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
could you tell me what things Dyrus excell at? -apologizing | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:08 Thereisnosaurus wrote: out of interest, I've seen people still stacking d-items a fair bit, I thought they made the passives on them unique, but it's not listed as such. Do they stack? Dblades 5hit passive stacks. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:08 wei2coolman wrote: So what's the opinion of WW in s3 jungle? Just played a game with him. Clear times were fine imo, came out of first 2 runs without backing with full health; so seemed fairly reasonable. His pre-6 is still atrocious as ever, but that's partially for me to blame since I wasn't running MS quints. Felt fairly strong, but it's so hard to gap close after using ulti; just get kited all day.... He's still the same as in S2. Clear times slower than alot of champions, sustain still godlike. Easily kited and no ganking potential without ult, unless lanes have lots of CC. He's good lategame, but getting there without coming from behind is going to be a challenge compared to alot of junglers. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:15 Zooper31 wrote: He's still the same as in S2. Clear times slower than alot of champions, sustain still godlike. Easily kited and no ganking potential without ult, unless lanes have lots of CC. He's good lategame, but getting there without coming from behind is going to be a challenge compared to alot of junglers. His clear time didn't seem that far off, in comparison to how bad it was in S2. But, yeah a lot of the other stuff still seemed to apply. On December 24 2012 12:15 koreasilver wrote: Man the new dshield is absolutely amazing for some matchups in top lane. Was thinking adc with dshield start would be pretty lulzies to watch; would be pretty cheezy. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:08 Thereisnosaurus wrote: out of interest, I've seen people still stacking d-items a fair bit, I thought they made the passives on them unique, but it's not listed as such. Do they stack? DBlade and DRing stack. DShield doesn't because the strength of stacked damage block early game is much higher than stacked life-on-hit and mana return on last-hits. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:18 overt wrote: The best part of WW is still the same though. You can open almost any item you want and clear the entire jungle with 80%+ health. The practical problem with WW and with other high-sustain junglers is that you're still forced to start Machete because a non-Machete jungler is too much slower than a Machete jungler. 10% damage and 10 true damage proc outperforms any other potential item start by far too much. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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jcc
United States472 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
someone call? | ||
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