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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On December 07 2012 18:47 Sufficiency wrote: Doesn't that mean he is a jungler? I thought Dig decided to put crumbzz in jungle now. Well he played Jungler for Epik back at IPL4? i think. Right after they benched dan and before they benched west. | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On December 07 2012 18:41 De4ngus wrote: hes pretty bad lol. was kinda known for his lee but theres 50 other people like that. nice job hating on him for no reason lol | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On December 07 2012 18:43 Ryuu314 wrote: no. tenacity is a unique passive. The tenacity from the defense mastery will stack with the tenacity from one tenacity item; not both. also, as far as I know, tenacity and all cc duration reduction effects stack multiplicatively. So with the defensive mastery plus either Mercs or Ancient Golem Spirit, you'll have ~45% cc reduction. Fun fact: irelia with mercs and tenacious mastery can have 71% cc reduc. 99 problems but cc ain't 1. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On December 07 2012 19:09 red.venom wrote: Anyone finding use for Twin Shadows? I keep thinking of some cool situations to use it or that it might be potentially crazy to setup ganks but its kind of expensive to rush for. Maybe its just garbage. nice job hating on him for no reason lol wut. i never said i hate him. he just isnt a good player. twin shadows is beast item. that active is so goooood. its super troll for chasing people down :D | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 07 2012 19:09 red.venom wrote: Anyone finding use for Twin Shadows? I keep thinking of some cool situations to use it or that it might be potentially crazy to setup ganks but its kind of expensive to rush for. Maybe its just garbage. nice job hating on him for no reason lol I think it's pretty good on Mordekaiser. I could be wrong and I am still experimenting, but I think the issue is more on "do I want to delay my DFG/DCAP for this item", not "is this item good", because I think this item is extremely good. Mordekaiser has no CC/escapes, no gapclosers, and his range short beside his R. If you can slow your opponent with Twin Shadows you can play more aggressive and have greater zone of control. It also makes his roam a lot stronger because he can bring more than just raw damage to a gank. I originally thought it is some sort of defensive item because it is supposed to be a new support item. Frankly it doesn't help Mordekaiser much in a gank, because most junglers post-6 have some sort of gapcloser and other slowing mechanism that will catch you even if you use Twin Shadows. You also can't spam it to detect ganks because the cooldown is way too high. EDIT: I guess it can probably also work with Katarina (the effect will be somewhat similar to getting Gunblade pre-rework), but I haven't actually played her since the S3 patch. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
So what are people's opinions of the new frozen fist item? (sheen + glacial) It seems so good if only it didn't gave 40 AP.  ((I almost feel like it would be really strong on irelia to give her some cdr in her build in place of triforce and get her a bit tankier, but 40 ap seems meh. x_x | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On December 07 2012 17:48 cLutZ wrote: I feel like streamers (WoDX and Dyrus in particular) think that black cleaver's shred stacks past 4 if you have more than one. To quote aphro: "It's the leage of black cleavers man. You just keep building them and you'll win!" | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On December 07 2012 19:45 BlackPaladin wrote: She's that op. Better buy her with RP asap. So what are people's opinions of the new frozen fist item? (sheen + glacial) It seems so good if only it didn't gave 40 AP. ((I almost feel like it would be really strong on irelia to give her some cdr in her build in place of triforce and get her a bit tankier, but 40 ap seems meh. x_x Powerup them Xinheals | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
I like the increase to passive gold gain, support buff ftw. Who needs minion kills yo. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On December 07 2012 19:09 BlackPaladin wrote: Fun fact: irelia with mercs and tenacious mastery can have 71% cc reduc. 99 problems but cc ain't 1. Build zephyr, build boots of swiftness with 15+ MS upgrade, get defensive mastieries for tenacity and slow reduction, then you get randuins, TF and GA or something like that. Almost 500 MS and pretty close to immunity to cc (especially slows) + randuins slowing everyone that tries to kill you. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 07 2012 20:27 PrinceXizor wrote: So um. Since SotD has three parts, the attack speed, the active (unique) and the passive (not unique) can you get 2 SotD's have have the cooldown fully reset every time you get a kill? The cooldown resets to half its current CD, not half the max. So even if that caused a double reset, it would drop the CD to 15 seconds. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On December 07 2012 20:30 zodde wrote: Build zephyr, build boots of swiftness with 15+ MS upgrade, get defensive mastieries for tenacity and slow reduction, then you get randuins, TF and GA or something like that. Almost 500 MS and pretty close to immunity to cc (especially slows) + randuins slowing everyone that tries to kill you. I don't see zephyr as a good idea on irelia. TF at least helps make you a bit tankier. Yango, you're smart, what do you think about frozen fist? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
It feels like if you had 2k extra gold than usual a lot of tanks might get this item for extra damage but most people already are trying to get -Spirit stone tank upgrade (get sorcs on amumu/maokai/even shyvana) -Locket -Sightstone -Spirit visage (if you want cdr and magic resist) -Aegis-->bulwark Since all of these items are really good for tanks to help your team except spirit visage (good on maokai though) Zephyr feels really meh when Fuhrer boots are out there now which generally provide ms when melees need it most - chasing down people. Trinity still king on irelia for damage with only 150 gold nerf and 4% ms, while AS get nerfed meaning it's definitely still king and probably so is GA. Also for all the rammus fans wriggles-->PD rammus is dead because wriggles sucks now. Long live spirit stone-->PD rammus! The lack of movement speed is easily compensated by lack of unit collision since creep blocks were the bane of chasing AD carries with rammus. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
IGN - cascades | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
On December 07 2012 21:06 clickrush wrote: i dont think you can roll through minions even with pd as rammus though. who the hell rolls when you are crittin bitches for 400 with your passive AD bonus and PD crit like 1.5 times a second meanwhile ult is ticking for like a billion damage if he didn't die from the W + infinity second taunt duration | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
And yeah, thanks teut. I agree with your assessment. The item would be so good if it didn't give so much AP imo. Or at least cost a lot less. Right now FH just looks better on everyone else still unless your name is hec and your team already has a FH. :/ and even then, 40 ap seems to be pushing it a little. Although new SV is insaneeeeely good on irelia now. 50 mr, health, and cdr + better healing. Thank you riot. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
I was as Riven with a Wukong, he would dash-ult, then I would combo 0 armor targets for free triple/quadras with my bruta + GA + 2 BTs :D | ||
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