EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 41
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 06 2012 02:30 nosliw wrote: no slow effect though. Maybe Rylai's on Karthus? Wall of Pain. It won't do much with Karth's ult if he's using it as an execute, honestly. Since it's 2.5% current health, if he's waiting until they're ~500 health or whatever, that's only an extra 10 damage or something. However, if you're using it at the start of a teamfight as someone lays down an AoE stun/slow (Hec, Amumu, Malph initiate or Anivia ult), it'll start off the fight with decent damage. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:02 willoc wrote: Anyone have a list of which items are restricted to SR/TT/CS? The LoL Wiki has a decent interface for this. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also closed the client (just killed the "client" process) and it didn't show up after the game. Is it really how it's supposed to work to save memory? It's annoying to miss all the post-game stuff. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:11 Xacez wrote: Yeah the shop feels a bit unresponsive at times, in usual Riot fashion it will take ~3-4 weeks to fix all the bugs. But, as the S3 patch vid says, better now than mid-tournament season... They'll figure it out (I hope). | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
Thank you! | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
They didn't have DoTs of any kind (except when Rammus had a red buff, but Jax was always getting the kills) but when I ulted they always killed me. Now that's stuff that happens, but everytime the final hit was given while I was mid-flight (ult after their cc wore out) and I landed where I casted it, with the full cooldown on the ult. Aren't you supposed to be "off-map", or at least untargetable from you starting point, once you take off during Mandrop? From what I remember dying while you ult also cancelled it, which meant you had the 10s cooldown rather than the full one. I don't recall any patch notes mentioning a change though, is it my memory or was it stealth-nerfed? Another point is that you can't "consume" the flask when there's an active potion (and the opposite probably holds true). I mean it doesn't queue up the flask the way it does when you consume 2 charges, or 2 pots. Clicking it doesn't do anything actually. I thought it was a bug initially but it's probably so you can still stack hp and mana pot, but not a pot+flask to have a burst of healing, and the mixed restoration nature of the flask prevented it from being added as a "stack" like similar pots do. I died to bring you this information.  And dblades obnoxious for early trading. I destroyed Jax, died stupidly at level 1 (he boots+3, me sword+2, he fought, I thought I clicked a pot but didn't, so I died first and he leveled-up, saving him from ignite) but still managed to trash him (he had to back beforre he could empty his flask usually) but as soon as he had all three skills he'd just try to stun me and get a prolonged trade. Since he had 2 dblades to my brutalizer, the difference in sustain (10 flat HP per hit) and the lack of %lifesteal in the offense tree made quite a huge difference. I was just dicking around anyway but I'll make sure to get some dblades early on from now on, even if I get fed, when I play an aggressive physical top. That sustain's too huge to pass up in the early levels. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:40 Xacez wrote: Why not get a Scepter instead of Doran's? Scepter is now 800g and builds out of longsword. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:43 Gahlo wrote: Scepter is now 800g and builds out of longsword. Right, his point was if you want damage and sustain, Vamp Scepter can do that while not being a dead end like Doran's. I'd have to look at the new Lifesteal numbers to see what's better for lane sustain, but I plan on having a flat Vamp on most characters who are building something out of it, | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:46 VayneAuthority wrote: Anyone know if Liandry's torment works with Kog's W? was considering giving ap kog another go since slow ---> liandry auto attacks sounds pretty baller. Not with his W, but it will on his Q. Basically, on-hits like Kog's W and TF's Pick a Card are considered "magic damage", which is disparate from "spell damage", which is only damage from spells. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:45 Requizen wrote: Right, his point was if you want damage and sustain, Vamp Scepter can do that while not being a dead end like Doran's. I'd have to look at the new Lifesteal numbers to see what's better for lane sustain, but I plan on having a flat Vamp on most characters who are building something out of it, Vamp Scepter is 10 damage 10 lifesteal for 800 gold. Doran's is 10 damage 80 HP 5 life per hit for 475 gold. The comparison isn't that good because of the monumental difference in cost-effectiveness. Doran's gives you MORE early game (same damage, Doran's has 80 HP, and 10 lifesteal only is ~7 or 8 life per hit early game compared to 5 on Doran's) for 325 less gold. Obv Vamp builds to stuff, but you're undervaluing the cost-effectiveness difference because it's huge. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:09 Alaric wrote: Tried a game. UGH. It's so unresponsive. No lag, low latency, low ping, but I missed several last hits and harass opportunities because of it. Clicks in the shop (esp. double clicks) pretty unresponsive too. Also closed the client (just killed the "client" process) and it didn't show up after the game. Is it really how it's supposed to work to save memory? It's annoying to miss all the post-game stuff. This is a known bug http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=32104851#32104851 | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:50 TheYango wrote: Vamp Scepter is 10 damage 10 lifesteal for 800 gold. Doran's is 10 damage 80 HP 5 life per hit for 475 gold. The comparison isn't that good because of the monumental difference in cost-effectiveness. Doran's gives you MORE early game (same damage, Doran's has 80 HP, and 10 lifesteal only is ~7 or 8 life per hit early game compared to 5 on Doran's) for 325 less gold. Obv Vamp builds to stuff, but you're undervaluing the cost-effectiveness difference because it's huge. Oh I understand that, I was just articulating his point. Though I think 1 Dorans will be standard rather than 2, now that you can get that extra bit of AD on Vamp, unless you really, really want lane dominance. | ||
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