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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
December 05 2012 08:58 GMT
#681
okay rylai's and liandry's torment on vlad is just crazy good right now..
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 09:03:09
December 05 2012 08:58 GMT
#682
On December 05 2012 17:48 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 17:33 Koenig99 wrote:
On December 05 2012 17:25 zer0das wrote:
Liandry's is beyond insane. I don't know what on earth they were thinking, Eating a 10% health burn because Anivia R's you is probably the dumbest thing I can possibly think of. Then there's Teemo shrooms, Eve's ult, blah blah blah.

Really starting to the think changing the way flat and % penetration work, lowering resists while increasing their costs (and reducing slot effectiveness), and putting out items like Liandry's and Black Cleaver was way over the top.

Wait, does Teemo's toxic shots proc Liandry's?


Nope, but his shroom damage is silly.

I don't know, from watching a game with Teemo in it right now, it seems as though all of his other spell damage causes a debuff called 'Liandry's Torment - this unit is burning for a percentage of its health each second,' but then sometimes a debuff pops up called 'Burning - This unit is taking damage over time.....'
And sometimes both debuffs are on the person.

Edit: Yup. Watching it now, it seems ONLY the initial magic damage proc on Toxic Shot causes the 'Burning' debuff, while shrooms and Blinding Dart causes the 'Liandry's Torment' debuff along with the Brand-like particle effect.
No idea what this means though.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
December 05 2012 09:01 GMT
#683
Game feels like a new game to me. :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 05 2012 09:01 GMT
#684
what you build on jax now ;O
Chun-li since ST
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 05 2012 09:04 GMT
#685
Sad that Runic Bulwark and Aegis of the Legion dont stack T_T
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 05 2012 09:10 GMT
#686
On December 05 2012 18:04 MooMooMugi wrote:
Sad that Runic Bulwark and Aegis of the Legion dont stack T_T


Riot doesn't want people to have a "one size fits all" defenses item. If they wanted you to be able to do that they would just make a Negatron + Chain Vest + Giant's Belt = Those Stats +5% + Unique Passive (Super lame passive)
Freeeeeeedom
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9795 Posts
December 05 2012 09:24 GMT
#687
On December 05 2012 18:01 Artok wrote:
what you build on jax now ;O

tiamat ^^
and sotd too
boomer hands
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
December 05 2012 09:45 GMT
#688
So, is the patch out yet?

Looking forward to trying Elise with Twin Shadows + Liandry's Torment & Fiora with Ravenous Hydra + Zephyr after work.
Iceborn Gauntlet on Urgoth? Hm. Might be worth a try indeed.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 05 2012 09:52 GMT
#689
On December 05 2012 16:38 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 16:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On December 05 2012 16:23 Koenig99 wrote:
On December 05 2012 15:57 GreenManalishi wrote:
I really hope CLG doesn't pick up Nhat. I like Nhat, he seems like a nice guy but he is not a world class player. He doesn't have the reactions or the mechanics to be a top tier support, and if CLG picks him up, it will not only mean losing Loco (which I am pretty torn on, I think Loco needs a serious attitude adjustment, but he undoubtedly has better fundamentals) but CLG's bottom lane will not be a top tier bottom lane for months to come.

Nhat is probably a great guy, and probably fun to duo queue with, but he is not ever going to be good enough to play against players like Madlife, Lustboy, or MiSTakE.

Loco's gone

http://clgaming.net/news/416-clg-roster-change-and-season-3-tryouts

That was fast.
Oh NA pro scene, never change.


haha that was fast. Anybody remembers the interview?^^ I wont leave soon lol

To be fair, he didn't know how big DL's ego is. And being trained in a Korea, he didn't expect the chaos in CLG.NA, everybody is blaming everyone else for a mistake in game, and will continue to rage/shout even when the game ended. I don't see how a Korean can cope with that.
Loco made a right decision to leave CLG.NA. Hope they can recruit someone really quite and passive so he can take all the shits DL throw at him in botlane.
Terran
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 05 2012 09:54 GMT
#690
On December 05 2012 18:45 Xayoz wrote:
So, is the patch out yet?

Looking forward to trying Elise with Twin Shadows + Liandry's Torment & Fiora with Ravenous Hydra + Zephyr after work.
Iceborn Gauntlet on Urgoth? Hm. Might be worth a try indeed.


Just tried it. I think it's better than FH if you don't need the -atkspd debuff because you can pretty much permaslow people now with your autos.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
December 05 2012 09:57 GMT
#691
I just got a DC and when I log in again the game is over, not listed in Match History, no button to reconnect and no queue penalty.

What.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 05 2012 10:20 GMT
#692
On December 05 2012 18:24 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:01 Artok wrote:
what you build on jax now ;O

tiamat ^^
and sotd too

really? that sounds weird and squishy
Chun-li since ST
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 05 2012 10:38 GMT
#693
So far today all I've done is play nocturne. Been trying to go for an endgame build of tank spirit stone, zerks with furor(although I'm thinking captain might be better?), hydra, bulwark and randuins. Once you get hydra, my god do creep waves/jungle creeps melt, and the sustain/damage in a fight is pretty good with the steroids nocturne has. Even with 3800 health, nearly 300 armor and 150 MR though it felt like I was still really squishy despite running 21 defense. Not quite sure what I'd get for the last item slot though. FM doesn't feel as mandatory because AD's move slower now, BotRK could synergize for absolutely insane lifesteal, black cleaver/LW if people buy too much armor, GA, thornmail etc.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 05 2012 10:49 GMT
#694
is it me or the defensive mastery sucks for jungler (with exception for the standard 12 points) seems like i have better times with 18-12 than anything else
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 05 2012 10:50 GMT
#695
I think people are overvaluing the Machete upgrades "baron control". Dragon, sure, but baroning is basically a throw unless you just killed the other team, in my games at least.
Freeeeeeedom
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 05 2012 10:50 GMT
#696
On December 05 2012 15:03 Roffles wrote:
What I had problems with was that it was so awkward when no one wanted to talk in team chat. People kept jumping in and out of the channel telling us to talk more and it was getting rather quiet and just really awkward. Thus I decided to just troll him. I'm not sure what people saw because I'm aware he muted and ignored me, but at one point I did type CLG CLG CLG in chat. Was very entertaining.

I understand what I did was wrong and I shouldn't have done it. But for people to lynch me for trolling Oddone is just lol.

Fuck it, who cares? But they're trying to get you fired over it?

I'm not really sure wtf happened but ya, you probably shouldn't be fired over trolling someone in a game.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 05 2012 11:10 GMT
#697
Muramana ezreal so good, holy shit ;O
Chun-li since ST
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 11:12:05
December 05 2012 11:11 GMT
#698
On December 05 2012 19:49 kongoline wrote:
is it me or the defensive mastery sucks for jungler (with exception for the standard 12 points) seems like i have better times with 18-12 than anything else


IMO deep defense there's a lot that's worth more than what offense offers for a jungler. -10% from critical strikes(late game that's probably 3-50% of the incoming damage, so 3-5% reduction there), 4% health, probably 3-4 AR/MR on average for 1 point, 2-6% more resists. straight up 3% less damage taken. When the role of jungler currently is mostly tank/initiator, there's really not that much of an emphasis on doing more damage. 2% more damage, 3 AD,6 arpen and executioner really isn't worth as much as defense tree is. I wouldn't trade a ~4-5% damage increase for a 15% reduction in EHP though, unless I was jungling a ranged character.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 11:49:48
December 05 2012 11:23 GMT
#699
does tough skin work on lane minions or is it only for jungle monsters?
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
December 05 2012 11:28 GMT
#700
Yeah, yesterday Chaox was toying around with a poke Ezreal build including Muramana. Dem Qs were pretty stronk.
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