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On December 11 2012 14:01 Seuss wrote: So Jayce+support with Cleavers is a pretty dumb way to utterly crush any bot lane. Had someone do that earlier, he and his support built Black Cleavers tho -_-.
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On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote: Viktor disabled till next patch. D:
Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him.
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On December 11 2012 14:14 Skithiryx wrote:Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him. Friend saying people are like "who's viktor" in the thread about him being disabled. haha
if you can get the hang of him he's an absolutely brutal mid tho.
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On December 11 2012 14:14 Skithiryx wrote:Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him.
No reason to spend the resource to hotfix him because no one plays him anyways. huehuehue
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Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.
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On December 11 2012 14:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:14 Skithiryx wrote:On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote: Viktor disabled till next patch. D: Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him. Friend saying people are like "who's viktor" in the thread about him being disabled. haha if you can get the hang of him he's an absolutely brutal mid tho.
I guess it's good that people remain in the dark because it means they have no idea how to handle him, just sucks that they straight up disable him for a pretty big chunk of time.
And agreed, 50% of your hp with two spells from level 4 onwards? npnp.
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Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts.
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On December 11 2012 14:24 Alaric wrote: Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts. Purple team still OP for top nunu, dat double golem advantage
On December 11 2012 14:13 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:01 Seuss wrote: So Jayce+support with Cleavers is a pretty dumb way to utterly crush any bot lane. Had someone do that earlier, he and his support built Black Cleavers tho -_-. Support xin + jayce. It worked pre-patch, wonder how it works now
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On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote: Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.
Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.
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On December 11 2012 14:10 Alaric wrote:Plus Ryze works as intended, they just overlooked him. Syndra works as intended too, but they forgot that they modified her ult so Banshee wouldn't entirely negate it.  Riot rarely thinks before they act.
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On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote: Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo. Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.
I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better.
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On December 11 2012 14:33 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote: Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo. Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp. I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better. Yes yes, he burns people for a % of their current health, people who probably have very low health from tanking a veigar combo. Additionally, he only has a 2 second stun (which usually gets applied before all the damage) making liandry's passive work @ 5% only (did I mention liandry's passive doesn't scale at all with veigar's massive ap).
What's wrong with this picture? It takes someone with maybe middle school intelligence (still higher than 50% of league players) to figure out that liandry's is terrible, especially on veigar
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On December 11 2012 14:24 Alaric wrote: Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts.
Honestly, it doesn't matter which side teemo is on at the moment. Liandry+Morellonomicon+Shrooms=Free barons
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On December 11 2012 14:38 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:33 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote: Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo. Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp. I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better. Yes yes, he burns people for a % of their current health, people who probably have very low health from tanking a veigar combo. Additionally, he only has a 2 second stun (which usually gets applied before all the damage) making liandry's passive work @ 5% only (did I mention liandry's passive doesn't scale at all with veigar's massive ap). What's wrong with this picture?
I guess we are not really disagreeing with each other. I am just saying that Nyjacky needed survivability in that game, not more damage via Liandry's. Sure, Veigar is made for one-shot people, but if he gets one-shot first he is useless.
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On December 11 2012 14:38 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:33 Sufficiency wrote:On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote: Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo. Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp. I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better. Yes yes, he burns people for a % of their current health, people who probably have very low health from tanking a veigar combo. Additionally, he only has a 2 second stun (which usually gets applied before all the damage) making liandry's passive work @ 5% only (did I mention liandry's passive doesn't scale at all with veigar's massive ap). What's wrong with this picture?
Liandry's passive is quite possibly the least synergistic thing with viegar ever.
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On December 11 2012 14:39 icemanzdoinwork wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 14:24 Alaric wrote: Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts. Honestly, it doesn't matter which side teemo is on at the moment. Liandry+Morellonomicon+Shrooms=Free barons Liandry's is still a noob trap, after teemo shrooms get nerfed for half their damage people won't mistake the damage for liandry passive anymore
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Liandry's would work well on veigar for laning phase only, but that requires rushing it which kinda sucks in general for him and many others.
and no liandry's on teem is absolute BS. comparing a teemo with and without it's kind of obvious. >.<
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liandry's seems completely useless tbh, i tried it on mundo for cleavers and the burn was almost unnoticable on full hp (well, minus one cleaver) targets, even their adc
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On December 11 2012 14:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: liandry's seems completely useless tbh, i tried it on mundo for cleavers and the burn was almost unnoticable on full hp (well, minus one cleaver) targets, even their adc the goal is to hit the tankier people with it, but i feel mundo's playstyle rewards liandry the most since it does buff his poke quite a lot (even with just the stats)
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On December 11 2012 13:51 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 13:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote: Viktor disabled till next patch. D: WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THIS WHY WHAT Edit: But seriously, I've been playing Viktor plenty this week and haven't noticed any reason for him to be disabled... Wut u do 2 mai mecha-man, riot? It's a bug with annie, so they are disabling viktor to fix it because he's less popular. understand? "less popular" than Annie... ouch
Not that it matters.
Speaking of champs that can proc muramana, Warwick can proc both the AD and on hit in his ult. It feels strong, in bot games.
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