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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 11 2012 05:13 GMT
#3301
On December 11 2012 14:01 Seuss wrote:
So Jayce+support with Cleavers is a pretty dumb way to utterly crush any bot lane.

Had someone do that earlier, he and his support built Black Cleavers tho -_-.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
December 11 2012 05:14 GMT
#3302
On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote:
Viktor disabled till next patch. D:


Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 11 2012 05:18 GMT
#3303
On December 11 2012 14:14 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote:
Viktor disabled till next patch. D:


Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him.

Friend saying people are like "who's viktor" in the thread about him being disabled.
haha

if you can get the hang of him he's an absolutely brutal mid tho.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 11 2012 05:19 GMT
#3304
On December 11 2012 14:14 Skithiryx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote:
Viktor disabled till next patch. D:


Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him.


No reason to spend the resource to hotfix him because no one plays him anyways. huehuehue
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 11 2012 05:21 GMT
#3305
Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.
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Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
December 11 2012 05:24 GMT
#3306
On December 11 2012 14:18 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:14 Skithiryx wrote:
On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote:
Viktor disabled till next patch. D:


Why next patch and not a hotfix -.- been playing alot of him lately and was finally starting to really get a feel for him.

Friend saying people are like "who's viktor" in the thread about him being disabled.
haha

if you can get the hang of him he's an absolutely brutal mid tho.


I guess it's good that people remain in the dark because it means they have no idea how to handle him, just sucks that they straight up disable him for a pretty big chunk of time.

And agreed, 50% of your hp with two spells from level 4 onwards? npnp.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 11 2012 05:24 GMT
#3307
Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 05:30:14
December 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#3308
On December 11 2012 14:24 Alaric wrote:
Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts.

Purple team still OP for top nunu, dat double golem advantage

On December 11 2012 14:13 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:01 Seuss wrote:
So Jayce+support with Cleavers is a pretty dumb way to utterly crush any bot lane.

Had someone do that earlier, he and his support built Black Cleavers tho -_-.

Support xin + jayce. It worked pre-patch, wonder how it works now
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#3309
On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.


Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 11 2012 05:29 GMT
#3310
On December 11 2012 14:10 Alaric wrote:
Plus Ryze works as intended, they just overlooked him. Syndra works as intended too, but they forgot that they modified her ult so Banshee wouldn't entirely negate it.

Riot rarely thinks before they act.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 11 2012 05:33 GMT
#3311
On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.


Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.


I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 05:39:20
December 11 2012 05:38 GMT
#3312
On December 11 2012 14:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.


Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.


I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better.

Yes yes, he burns people for a % of their current health, people who probably have very low health from tanking a veigar combo. Additionally, he only has a 2 second stun (which usually gets applied before all the damage) making liandry's passive work @ 5% only (did I mention liandry's passive doesn't scale at all with veigar's massive ap).

What's wrong with this picture? It takes someone with maybe middle school intelligence (still higher than 50% of league players) to figure out that liandry's is terrible, especially on veigar
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
December 11 2012 05:39 GMT
#3313
On December 11 2012 14:24 Alaric wrote:
Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts.


Honestly, it doesn't matter which side teemo is on at the moment. Liandry+Morellonomicon+Shrooms=Free barons
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 11 2012 05:40 GMT
#3314
On December 11 2012 14:38 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:33 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.


Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.


I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better.

Yes yes, he burns people for a % of their current health, people who probably have very low health from tanking a veigar combo. Additionally, he only has a 2 second stun (which usually gets applied before all the damage) making liandry's passive work @ 5% only (did I mention liandry's passive doesn't scale at all with veigar's massive ap).

What's wrong with this picture?


I guess we are not really disagreeing with each other. I am just saying that Nyjacky needed survivability in that game, not more damage via Liandry's. Sure, Veigar is made for one-shot people, but if he gets one-shot first he is useless.
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jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
December 11 2012 05:40 GMT
#3315
On December 11 2012 14:38 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:33 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 11 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 11 2012 14:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Nyjacky was way too greedy on damage last game. He should have built a Zhonya instead of Liandry's imo.


Aside from the question of how basically good liandry's is why would you build it on veigar wtf. It's not going to burn any of their current hp because if you're hitting someone they won't have any hp.


I think he can burn people with it, but he has to be able to survive the initiation to do that. If he built Zhonya before Liandry's he would have done much better.

Yes yes, he burns people for a % of their current health, people who probably have very low health from tanking a veigar combo. Additionally, he only has a 2 second stun (which usually gets applied before all the damage) making liandry's passive work @ 5% only (did I mention liandry's passive doesn't scale at all with veigar's massive ap).

What's wrong with this picture?


Liandry's passive is quite possibly the least synergistic thing with viegar ever.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 11 2012 05:42 GMT
#3316
On December 11 2012 14:39 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 14:24 Alaric wrote:
Blue side still OP for Baron even with wide ramp. Poor TOO, so many Liandry shrooms to walk through to try and stop enemy baron attempts.


Honestly, it doesn't matter which side teemo is on at the moment. Liandry+Morellonomicon+Shrooms=Free barons

Liandry's is still a noob trap, after teemo shrooms get nerfed for half their damage people won't mistake the damage for liandry passive anymore
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 11 2012 05:45 GMT
#3317
Liandry's would work well on veigar for laning phase only, but that requires rushing it which kinda sucks in general for him and many others.

and no liandry's on teem is absolute BS. comparing a teemo with and without it's kind of obvious. >.<
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 11 2012 05:47 GMT
#3318
liandry's seems completely useless tbh, i tried it on mundo for cleavers and the burn was almost unnoticable on full hp (well, minus one cleaver) targets, even their adc
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 11 2012 05:49 GMT
#3319
On December 11 2012 14:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
liandry's seems completely useless tbh, i tried it on mundo for cleavers and the burn was almost unnoticable on full hp (well, minus one cleaver) targets, even their adc

the goal is to hit the tankier people with it, but i feel mundo's playstyle rewards liandry the most since it does buff his poke quite a lot (even with just the stats)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 05:52:21
December 11 2012 05:50 GMT
#3320
On December 11 2012 13:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 13:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 11 2012 13:25 Alaric wrote:
Viktor disabled till next patch. D:


WHAT

WHAT

WHAT IS THIS

WHY

WHAT

Edit: But seriously, I've been playing Viktor plenty this week and haven't noticed any reason for him to be disabled...

Wut u do 2 mai mecha-man, riot?

It's a bug with annie, so they are disabling viktor to fix it because he's less popular. understand?

"less popular" than Annie... ouch

Not that it matters.

Speaking of champs that can proc muramana, Warwick can proc both the AD and on hit in his ult. It feels strong, in bot games.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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