EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 149
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UniversalSnip
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On December 10 2012 17:22 UniversalSnip wrote: Why must gauntlet give 40 ap. So champs like Diana have a legitimate reason to build it, so Rammus ult and Q can do more damage, so Blitz can do more damage? | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
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UniversalSnip
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On December 10 2012 17:28 UniversalSnip wrote: "So that the 30 other champs that would want it aren't so interested" Sheen gives AP, hence the AP. Honestly any champ that likes trinity force can build Iceborn Gauntlet if they want to go for an Armor heavy build instead. (which until BC gets its nerf is a pretty damn good idea) | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 10 2012 16:59 wei2coolman wrote: Most junglers are going to do 2nd rotation after red, any gank straight after red if not successful will put you WAY behind. It's most likely wolf/blue/wraiths/red/golem/wolves/wraith/back. Part of this is that Season 2 encouraged what are now bad ganking habits. Banking, and the general ease of clearing, allowed for junglers to invest much more time ganking and camping without significant penalty. Many junglers who are used to this style of jungling are now finding that they quickly fall behind not only the enemy jungler but all the lanes as well. Unless they increase their time-efficiency when ganking they'll keep experiencing this problem. A good example of this would be the AHGL game that Soniv and Wave cast earlier. Despite having his Blue stolen, Epic's Amumu got way ahead of Curse's Maokai simply through farming and occasionally covering a lane. Meanwhile Maokai ganked repeatedly without much success. As a result Amumu was level 6 at the same time Maokai was level 4, and while Maokai farmed to catch back up Amumu made use of his ultimate to gank effectively. The problem isn't that Maokai ganked, but that he invested too much of his time on uncertain ganks without clearing. Where the balance between ganking and farming lies has yet to be determined, but as junglers can easily hit level 6 by 7:00-7:20 through farming, even with a recall to buy and resupply, we may see a shift back toward junglers like Amumu who have very strong level 6 gank potential. We may even see, if the balance is far enough in farming's favor, jungling switch from a ganking/map presence role to a carrying role. The ability to farm, catch up, and even exceed lanes that Amumu demonstrated is something that can be applied to potential carry champions like Jax, Riven, or Karthus. It's not likely, but it's a potential outcome if ganking early is as weak as you suppose. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
Now much less people seem to judge me for playing stuff like that and I like that people are less close-minded than before. In my opinion that was always the problem with LoL, people not trying stuff. I had the experience that people say its either "OP" or "not viable", everything in between does not exist, this patch changed that (for now) and I am really happy with it. TLDR: Like the patch, changes the mentality and viability of new stuff | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
It seems that if Nami dies while in her R's casting animation, her R goes on full cooldown and nothing happens. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Reapered has two BCs now on WK. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On December 10 2012 16:46 NEOtheONE wrote: I think I am finally getting the hang of Diana jungle. I was never bad per say, but I wasn't carry my team good before. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GNwNB.jpg) Now, I am averaging about a double kill per game and a 3.5 KDA. Hopefully after they nerf her Q again, people won't see the need to ban her as much so I can jungle her more often. I've also learned it's better to let the first couple of kills go to your lane and don't take any for myself until teamfight phase if possible. Need to nerf her stats, though her q getting hit wouldn't hurt. | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
http://live.neotv.cn/live/pipe-26 | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
On December 10 2012 18:11 Sufficiency wrote: BTW, http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia Reapered has two BCs now on WK. OP with four Flasks, ESG with none. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On December 10 2012 18:25 Dan HH wrote: Royal Club vs Xenics Storm Bo5 starting in 30mins http://live.neotv.cn/live/pipe-26 thanks! | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 10 2012 18:02 Vallelol wrote: I honestly do not get all the hate on Reddit etc. on the new patch. I am an old dota player and only played LoL when no friends wanted to play Dota and I pretty much had to join them. But now with the patch I feel a much bigger variety of possibilites in itembuilds/masteries based on personal preferences. Due to that I even enjoy playing it alone, before I was flamed in every game when I went something silly like AttackSpeed Alistar top (although it worked surprisingly often). Now much less people seem to judge me for playing stuff like that and I like that people are less close-minded than before. In my opinion that was always the problem with LoL, people not trying stuff. I had the experience that people say its either "OP" or "not viable", everything in between does not exist, this patch changed that (for now) and I am really happy with it. TLDR: Like the patch, changes the mentality and viability of new stuff The change is temporary. People just haven't conclusively decided what is trash yet. | ||
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
On December 10 2012 19:17 cLutZ wrote: The change is temporary. People just haven't conclusively decided what is trash yet. Well I hope they will take their time :D Really don't like the former mentality of "theres only one way".B est example is Ezreal who just became popular after his skin was released, before that he wasn't even considered a top tier ADC, just because people did not play him that much. As the nerf on W shows, he was strong before, but it seems a lot of people are just following the FOTM and are to lazy to try stuff, now they have to. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On December 10 2012 19:17 cLutZ wrote: The change is temporary. People just haven't conclusively decided what is trash yet. There's still stuff like wriggles maokai that just doesn't make sense though...Melee carry alistar works because at least for the duration of his ult, he's got a ridiculous defensive steroid, and a good offensive one. I hate on the patch mostly because of the penetration changes in conjunction with the retarded BC stacking shit that makes people blow up despite building pure tank. Once that shit is fixed, I think I'll be happy. I always liked sitting in jungle and only coming out once in a while for near guaranteed kills. On December 10 2012 19:24 Vallelol wrote: Well I hope they will take their time :D Really don't like the former mentality of "theres only one way".B est example is Ezreal who just became popular after his skin was released, before that he wasn't even considered a top tier ADC, just because people did not play him that much. As the nerf on W shows, he was strong before, but it seems a lot of people are just following the FOTM and are to lazy to try stuff, now they have to. There isn't one way to play any champion, but you need to have an idea of how the champion fits in the grand scheme of things. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 10 2012 18:25 Dan HH wrote: Royal Club vs Xenics Storm Bo5 starting in 30mins http://live.neotv.cn/live/pipe-26 Uzi+Tabe bot lane is no joke. Storm's bot lane is getting absolutely crushed. | ||
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