EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 113
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:36 sung_moon wrote: The hooks rofl. And DLift explaining how they shouldn't ban Blitz. Ahahahahah He said, they should learn how to play against it. Which is smart, because it's not worth banning in prolevel tournament most of the time. Especially against top tier teams, where other bans are more important. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:26 Irave wrote: Haha the return of Daydreamin best blitz NA best blits NA | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
Hey you, the one dunking on Jiji mid, yeah im talking to you | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:00 phyvo wrote: Kinda does. Assuming you buy a vamp scepter either way, IE is 3700, the rest of BT is 2200, +1575 for zeal/dagger = 3775, just a little more than IE. IDK if this makes IE bad early now, I still build IE anyways. If you go vamp it definitely makes IE bad. Once laning is over the AD carry on the enemy team will probably have BT+zeal while you're running vamp+IE and doing way less team fight damage. The cost increase to 800 gold plus Dblade stacking being not as optimal makes IE rush have risks. If you want to IE rush you're gonna have a window where you deal significantly less DPS than the opposing AD or you're gonna have to get through lane phase without much sustain. There's probably ways around this though like running sustain-y supports such as Soraka, Sona, or Alistar. Or having a team that's willing to let you farm up zeal. Or just buying pots every back. But pretty much anytime you get vamp in lane phase I would probably delay IE until after BT+PD personally. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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seRapH
United States9808 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:47 Cixah wrote: So Nami is hella bully in lane. How do you counter this without losing every trade ever? Or do you have to just go soraka syndrome and not try and trade/avoid letting them trade? Is she actually doing more damage than you or just chasing you down after a bad engage? Nothing in her kit says I DO BIG DAMAGE but rather YOU'RE NOT GETTING AWAY. Pretty much any support save for janna should be able to outtrade in lane (depending on AD obviously). Just dodge the Q | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:52 seRapH wrote: Is she actually doing more damage than you or just chasing you down after a bad engage? Nothing in her kit says I DO BIG DAMAGE but rather YOU'RE NOT GETTING AWAY. Pretty much any support save for janna should be able to outtrade in lane (depending on AD obviously). Just dodge the Q She turns trades in your favor big time by maxing W and having stun. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:57 wei2coolman wrote: Her Q's cc is a bit ridiculous, reminds me cho gath's Q on steroids. Idk, I feel like it's even harder to hit than Rupture. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:57 wei2coolman wrote: Her Q's cc is a bit ridiculous, reminds me cho gath's Q on steroids. How so? Less damage, longer knockup/stun but overall less cc time (counting the slow after Cho's knockup), smaller AoE. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
Edit: Ok, it is letting me log in now after sitting on the launcher for like 5 minutes. Don't know what is up. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:59 WaveofShadow wrote: How so? Less damage, longer knockup/stun but overall less cc time (counting the slow after Cho's knockup), smaller AoE. I'm talking about the initial hard CC. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:59 TheSinisterRed wrote: Anyone else having problems with NA being 'undefined' and none of the news items showing up? I had the same problem earlier after the patch but did a repair and that seemed to fix it, but now it is back. i think their servers crashed for a bit | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
PVPnet having issues atm | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
She can't engage either, or not too reliably, as in if she misses her Q she loses both her peeling cc and her best trading tool and you can abuse it, the same way a burst lane can abuse Soraka's W cooldown. Tho with supports taking boots later I wonder if it isn't better for her, as they'll have a harder time dodging it. Poking wise, isn't Sona stronger than her? Not sure how their ranges compare, especially the "champion prioritization" of Sona's Q. I'm wondering how she'd do with Caitlyn or Varus, casting E on them to abuse their range for the slow, and then following from there (Varus' E -> Nami's Q -> Varus' Q, or Nami's Q -> Cait's W/Q). | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:04 Alaric wrote: So shouldn't carries with quick dashes (so Corki/Vayne/Ez/Graves rather than Corki/MF/Cait for example) be able to outplay her by holding onto that move until she Qs, staying far from her to increase travel time, and dodging it? It's all she has really, sure W gives sustain, but her burst seems weaker than Leona/Blitz/Zyra's, she's squishy so if she can get bursted down or cc'd long enough (Fiddle/Leona/Ali?) she won't have time to output everything. She can't engage either, or not too reliably, as in if she misses her Q she loses both her peeling cc and her best trading tool and you can abuse it, the same way a burst lane can abuse Soraka's W cooldown. Tho with supports taking boots later I wonder if it isn't better for her, as they'll have a harder time dodging it. Poking wise, isn't Sona stronger than her? Not sure how their ranges compare, especially the "champion prioritization" of Sona's Q. I'm wondering how she'd do with Caitlyn or Varus, casting E on them to abuse their range for the slow, and then following from there (Varus' E -> Nami's Q -> Varus' Q, or Nami's Q -> Cait's W/Q). Engage? She can just run to you and press W. Instantly win trades. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On December 08 2012 14:02 MooMooMugi wrote: If you having undefined problems, just type in "thereisnourflevel" PVPnet having issues atm Seems to be that way. Glad it isn't just me. Guess I'll wait to play until they fix that. Watching the TSM casters with all the lagging in the game is entertaining, at least. | ||
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