EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 111
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Just thinking... Jayce with like BC, SotD and W maxed. Such burst. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 08 2012 10:19 XenOmega wrote: Parts of me wish that LoL stay as successful as it is right now, and prove TL wrong to not providing it as much support as for Dota 2. Not that I am wishing Dota 2 or TL newest Dota 2 any bad luck, but yea ^^ TL's stance has always been that the DotA 2 choice was never one about popularity, but one about DotA 2 better fitting TL's "style" as a game. Given the overall mindset of the community and the parallels that can be drawn between the deep history of DotA in China and BW in Korea, it makes sense within the logic of their decision. There's nothing to "prove them wrong" about. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:07 Alaric wrote: Loci on Bischu's stream, but he doesn't seem to be streaming himself. Just thinking... Jayce with like BC, SotD and W maxed. Such burst. Speaking of Jayce, were his nerfs that bad? With all the lane swapping at IPL5 I was surprised not to see him much. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:25 cLutZ wrote: Speaking of Jayce, were his nerfs that bad? With all the lane swapping at IPL5 I was surprised not to see him much. Pretty sure he got neutered. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:18 thenexusp wrote: If I wanted a popular lol community I'd just go to reddit At least for me, it's not about popularity. (I've said it before, and I'll say it again, fuck Reddit.) I want to be able to support a team I have somewhat of a 'home team' connection to. Obviously even better if it can be made up of players who frequent our forums but that isn't necessarily realistic. For a while we had TL A which was awesome, Loci and to an extent, Locodoco (best of luck wherever you're going, buddeh). But we had nothing OFFICIAL. Nothing sponsored, nothing to cheer for as a whole. TL DotA 2 has that now, and I'm supremely jealous. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
As far as Jayce, he's still pretty good. BC isn't as great on him because most of his abilities are magic damage, but you can still pretty much insta-stack it with Cannon W. If his burst abilities were physical, it'd be broken as hell on him. | ||
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
She's very, very good. Black Cleaver is (as always these days) super core. Gives her everything she needs: CDR, AD, HP, armor pen. Building more HP after that makes you ridiculously tanky with your shield scaling off % max, or building damage makes you a pretty decent assassin. An in-between build like Mallet might work well too. She doesn't have any abilities that increase her resistances though, so maybe if you're going tank build, things like Sunfire would be good. In lane, trading goes very favorably. When going aggressive, Q, auto, E reset, auto outputs lots of damage, while giving you a shield to come out ahead. If you get jumped on, give them a good punch E punch before using Q to either disengage or go all-in. Ideal initiation combo seems to be R, auto, E reset, auto, Q, auto, E reset, auto. Hopefully whoever you dove is dead by now. Because of the nature of teamcomps, the champs you want to be diving with your R are naturally going to be at the back of the pack, so using your ulti to close to them works very well. You can dive the AD while plowing the front-line out of the way with a small CC. It's natural to think that you'd want to start with a charged Q, but very rarely will you be able to hit anyone with that. If your flash is up though, you can catch some people off guard with charge Q, flash, Q, and then combo the rest of your abilities for maximum damage. Despite having 2 gap-closers, she still manages to have a hard time sticking to champs, since she has no CC (outside of her ulti, which CC's yourself while you use it). Q knockup is barely anything. Taking exhaust wouldn't be a half-bad idea, although I've only played with ignite so far. You will live and die by Phage procs if you go that route. I've been maxing Q first, since leveling it up reduces the cooldown by a significant amount. Being able to use Q twice in a fight is much more important than doing more damage with your other abilities. After that, I max E for more burst (assassiny). Maxing W seems viable if you're going for a more sustained damage route (tanky), especially since it does % damage. While E does reset your auto, it still has a small cooldown when using the two stored charges in quick succession, which means that you cant reset 2 autos in a row. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I wonder how Hydra would go with his ranged-W into a clump of people too. Big AoE burst but probably not worth it as he doesn't use it in ranged mode anyway. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:35 Craton wrote: He got some minor nerfs, but the Koreans still play him with great success. minor nerfs ? he go hit by nerf bat quite hard 2 patches in row | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
But yeah, FMallet seems to be the core aside from that. Shield and sticking power, and since you have %health, you can deal with building defenses. Can't wait to try her. I used to do a fair amount of boxing, and her kit seems so cool in that regard. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:53 Alaric wrote: Uh? Jayce's only magic damage abilities are his melee-W (not really part of the burst compared to ranged-W) and melee-E, which is more of a finisher. His Q poke is physical, so as a snipe tool to finish off stragglers who ate your W, it's going to be huge. I wonder how Hydra would go with his ranged-W into a clump of people too. Big AoE burst but probably not worth it as he doesn't use it in ranged mode anyway. Huh, I thought Cannon Q was magic, haven't played him in too long I guess. Jayce is Ranged if you switch to cannon, so Hydra wouldn't work on his Cannon W, you'd have to get Hurricane. | ||
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Arekan
United States248 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:56 Requizen wrote: I know she doesn't have the highest base AD, but with a dash initiate and 2 auto resets, could Iceborne be a good idea? Resists, burst, and a slow for sticking power. But yeah, FMallet seems to be the core aside from that. Shield and sticking power, and since you have %health, you can deal with building defenses. Can't wait to try her. I used to do a fair amount of boxing, and her kit seems so cool in that regard. The problem I see with using Iceborne on her is that the AP and mana are largely wasted stats on her (her base mana and mana regen are incredible for a bruiser). I would rather get a mallet or maybe even TF if I wanted a slow for sticking power. As far as defenses go, I would rather get Randuin's or Runic Bulwark (probably both) on her anyway, due to the synergy with her passive. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On December 08 2012 11:53 kongoline wrote: minor nerfs ? he go hit by nerf bat quite hard 2 patches in row The first nerf to Jayce was extremely minor, the mana cost of his E increasing hardly had any impact whatsoever. The nerf on base damage of his E hurts a lot more. But he's still completely fine due to the insane amounts of utility he brings to the table. | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
447 Posts
.... Silence and giggles from the rest of CLG. | ||
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