EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 104
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Badboyrune
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:21 Argoth. wrote: And CLGs pure AD comp is countered so hard Well, M5 had the last pick, Malphite with 450 armor in the 2nd game, no amount of AD/ Armor Pen can eat through that much armor. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:24 Badboyrune wrote: I heard malphite is pretty good vs 3 ad teams. One of them is the very underfarmed Kog which did like zero damage unless he was hitting Sona -_-. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:24 Caphe wrote: Well, M5 had the last pick, Malphite with 450 armor in the 2nd game, no amount of AD/ Armor Pen can eat through that much armor. Prolly they thought Kog's % magic damage with Blood Boil would shred through that. They thought wrong. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:33 rhs408 wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
But the interesting thing is that wards have icons on the minimap now. Vision wards and Sight wards have different icons too, so you know what's where (compared to Caitlyn's/Nidalee's traps, for example). So Syndra destroys harder than, say, Cass with a Muramana. Wow, that must be some hilarious burst. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:38 AsnSensation wrote: I saw on doublelift's stream yesterday that Saint messaged him and said that ArPen runes on Ad carrys are now better as early as level 3 anyone done the math yet if it's true? I don't have a hard time believing it. Flat pen got a lot better with the S3 patch. If it's true, you'd only ever take AD runes if you have a hard time csing for some reason. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:38 AsnSensation wrote: I saw on doublelift's stream yesterday that Saint messaged him and said that ArPen runes on Ad carrys are now better as early as level 3 anyone done the math yet if it's true? First off, it's incredibly fruitless to specify "ArPen runes" and not specify whether you mean marks or quints. Marks are much more slot-efficient compared to AD than quints are. ArPen runes are worse than they ever were for low levels. The actual value of ArPen provided by runes got reduced--the only benefit now is that they stack better with % pen effects, but those don't become significant until higher armor values and more % pen effects in play. ArPen at low levels more or less always exceeded AD in champion fighting ability apart from the scenario where either your AD was too low, or the enemy's armor value meant your ArPen dropped them to 0 (basically doesn't happen since everyone takes Armor seals). The argument for AD marks has ALWAYS been smooth-ness of lasthitting outweighing dueling ability. On December 08 2012 05:45 Doctorbeat wrote: I don't have a hard time believing it. Flat pen got a lot better with the S3 patch. If it's true, you'd only ever take AD runes if you have a hard time csing for some reason. Flat pen only got better in the case where you have % pen effects in play. The actual flat pen amount of every flat pen source got reduced, meaning for laning (which is what everyone runes for), flat pen got worse than it was before. | ||
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samthesaluki
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Also, Muramana Syndra would be scarier if she had any single target abilities that weren't her ult. Still, 2000+ raw damage from one ability is pretty scary. Combine with DFG for lulz. Edit: Penetration runes can become late-game relevant if you're one of the select champions with some form of built in % Penetration or Reduction. Xerath is one of the obvious abuse cases. With Sorc's+Guise+Void he can bypass up to ~84 MR, but throw in 20 Penetration from Quints/Marks/Glyphs and that shoots up to ~140 MR. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
OMG...I might have to get some RP. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
On December 08 2012 06:05 cLutZ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iegBQUjAv-k&feature=player_embedded OMG...I might have to get some RP. I'll be in my bunk. | ||
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Pinith
651 Posts
On December 08 2012 05:54 UniversalSnip wrote: i don't understand how people think things like brutaliser flat pen runes and so on got buffed if they're not buying lw/aren't darius/etc. Just look at the numbers, they're lower than before. You don't even need to bust out your addition skills. If you assume everyone with has percent armor pen (9 points in offense), then they all got at least 8% better. Consider a 100armor target. Pre-patch Brutalizer gives 20 pen, marks gave 15 (1.66*9) more, dropping them to 65. After the 10% mastery, they have ~59 effective armor. Post-patch, the percentage is applied first, dropping them to 85. Then you apply the nerfed brutalizer (15) and flat marks (12), dropping the effective armor to 58. Not a huge difference, but when you factor in stuff like brutalizer actually building into decent items and tanks generally having more than 100 armor, it's a pretty significant buff. edit: math is off | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
Jayne is a girl's name. + Show Spoiler + Cool skin. =) | ||
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