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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 07 2012 22:06 GMT
#2101
On December 08 2012 06:28 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:16 Pinith wrote:
On December 08 2012 05:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
i don't understand how people think things like brutaliser flat pen runes and so on got buffed if they're not buying lw/aren't darius/etc. Just look at the numbers, they're lower than before. You don't even need to bust out your addition skills.


If you assume everyone with has percent armor pen (9 points in offense), then they all got at least 8% better. Consider a 100armor target. Pre-patch Brutalizer gives 20 pen, marks gave 15 (1.66*9) more, dropping them to 65. After the 10% mastery, they have ~59 effective armor. Post-patch, the percentage is applied first, dropping them to 85. Then you apply the nerfed brutalizer (15) and flat marks (12), dropping the effective armor to 58. Not a huge difference, but when you factor in stuff like brutalizer actually building into decent items and tanks generally having more than 100 armor, it's a pretty significant buff.


Percentage from masteries is only 8 now, so shouldn't the post-patch calculation be

100*0.92 = 92 (%arpen from masteries)
92-15-12 = 65 (bruta+marks)

-6 flat from masteries
= 59
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 07 2012 22:07 GMT
#2102
On December 08 2012 07:06 Xacez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Speaking of DotA 2, I know I'm late to the party and all, but Liquid'DotA now?

I'm kinda happy but at the same time, unbearably sad.

Haha that was ages ago, that whole decision was a big factor in me actually joining this forum and participating. As they've said multiple time, this doesn't mean LoL can't be covered officially in the future, there's just not enough people on the staff interested in LoL at the moment.

I believe he is talking about the recently announced team, not covering the game.

I'm dumb zzz, I don't go to the front page often...Still makes sense all things considered.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
December 07 2012 22:09 GMT
#2103
CLG so bad seriously, what's up with them today.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 07 2012 22:10 GMT
#2104
On December 08 2012 07:09 Argoth. wrote:
CLG so bad seriously, what's up with them today.


They focused the Zyra instead of Kat there zzzz. Can't not focus kat when she has damaged everyone.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 07 2012 22:12 GMT
#2105
On December 08 2012 07:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:28 thenexusp wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:16 Pinith wrote:
On December 08 2012 05:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
i don't understand how people think things like brutaliser flat pen runes and so on got buffed if they're not buying lw/aren't darius/etc. Just look at the numbers, they're lower than before. You don't even need to bust out your addition skills.


If you assume everyone with has percent armor pen (9 points in offense), then they all got at least 8% better. Consider a 100armor target. Pre-patch Brutalizer gives 20 pen, marks gave 15 (1.66*9) more, dropping them to 65. After the 10% mastery, they have ~59 effective armor. Post-patch, the percentage is applied first, dropping them to 85. Then you apply the nerfed brutalizer (15) and flat marks (12), dropping the effective armor to 58. Not a huge difference, but when you factor in stuff like brutalizer actually building into decent items and tanks generally having more than 100 armor, it's a pretty significant buff.


Percentage from masteries is only 8 now, so shouldn't the post-patch calculation be

100*0.92 = 92 (%arpen from masteries)
92-15-12 = 65 (bruta+marks)

-6 flat from masteries
= 59

He didn't do the 6 flat from masteries in the pre-patch calculations either (not every champ can afford to go that deep into offense)
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 07 2012 22:13 GMT
#2106
the butthurt of people when they said they'd take out the stripper pole is amazing
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 07 2012 22:14 GMT
#2107
On December 08 2012 07:12 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 07:06 Gahlo wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:28 thenexusp wrote:
On December 08 2012 06:16 Pinith wrote:
On December 08 2012 05:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
i don't understand how people think things like brutaliser flat pen runes and so on got buffed if they're not buying lw/aren't darius/etc. Just look at the numbers, they're lower than before. You don't even need to bust out your addition skills.


If you assume everyone with has percent armor pen (9 points in offense), then they all got at least 8% better. Consider a 100armor target. Pre-patch Brutalizer gives 20 pen, marks gave 15 (1.66*9) more, dropping them to 65. After the 10% mastery, they have ~59 effective armor. Post-patch, the percentage is applied first, dropping them to 85. Then you apply the nerfed brutalizer (15) and flat marks (12), dropping the effective armor to 58. Not a huge difference, but when you factor in stuff like brutalizer actually building into decent items and tanks generally having more than 100 armor, it's a pretty significant buff.


Percentage from masteries is only 8 now, so shouldn't the post-patch calculation be

100*0.92 = 92 (%arpen from masteries)
92-15-12 = 65 (bruta+marks)

-6 flat from masteries
= 59

He didn't do the 6 flat from masteries in the pre-patch calculations either (not every champ can afford to go that deep into offense)


Also, Season 3 only gives 5 from masteries. Many of the online calculators for Season 3 missed that.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
December 07 2012 22:17 GMT
#2108
11K goldlead, 6 to 1 towers, looks like GG
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 07 2012 22:25 GMT
#2109
On December 08 2012 06:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Good decision by Riot.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/85827-the-stripper-pole-is-too-much

So are they going to be nerfing Nidalee too?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 07 2012 22:25 GMT
#2110
I don't know how they thought they'd get away with a stripper pole when Reddit goes after them for fucking V necks.
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 07 2012 22:28 GMT
#2111
Dont see how this is more ridiculous than a playboy bunny Riven or a nurse Akali.
Off-season = best season
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 07 2012 22:30 GMT
#2112
WHAT THE FUCK only because someone was whining on reign of gaming they remove the stripper pole? cmooon man.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 22:32:47
December 07 2012 22:31 GMT
#2113
Stripper pole seems thematically appropriate to me. Kat is a whore and we all know it. By playing Kat post changes to her kit you are basically agreeing to throw away all your self-respect. You want classy women you play Irelia.

Caitlyn used to be classy before she decided to supplement her meager detective's salary by streetwalking.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#2114
I though the stripper pole was amusing. This is a game lol. It's not even a serious game.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#2115
On December 08 2012 07:37 travis wrote:
I though the stripper pole was amusing. This is a game lol. It's not even a serious game.

Are you the Travis who kinda did some things in LoL
I don't remember exactly but some interviews and stuff I think?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 07 2012 22:40 GMT
#2116
On December 08 2012 07:37 travis wrote:
I though the stripper pole was amusing. This is a game lol. It's not even a serious game.

What is a serious game?
Gladiator fights?
Off-season = best season
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 22:43:16
December 07 2012 22:42 GMT
#2117
My guess is that there's some disagreement at Riot internally about the stripper pole, so that's why they're backing down on the decision (not everyone at a company thinks the same as each other!) Some rioter was probably going "I TOLD YOU SO" after the community backlash
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 07 2012 22:48 GMT
#2118
On December 08 2012 07:42 thenexusp wrote:
My guess is that there's some disagreement at Riot internally about the stripper pole, so that's why they're backing down on the decision (not everyone at a company thinks the same as each other!) Some rioter was probably going "I TOLD YOU SO" after the community backlash

95% of them have probably never heard about it.
Off-season = best season
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 07 2012 22:51 GMT
#2119
On December 08 2012 07:40 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 07:37 travis wrote:
I though the stripper pole was amusing. This is a game lol. It's not even a serious game.

What is a serious game?
Gladiator fights?

Even in BW, the most serious game of all, we had FBH to strip for us.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 07 2012 22:52 GMT
#2120
I want them to release a new champion that is Blitzcranks girlfriend.

Have her be an AD Carry, be a smaller golem with a little pink bow on her head.

And give Blitz special voice acting if he's on the other team and pulls her.

Would be hilarious.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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