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[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 61

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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:15:20
November 16 2012 01:14 GMT
#1201
On November 16 2012 10:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 09:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
They have a lot of casters lined up for IPL5. Not all of them are top tier, but it seems that every game will be streamed, with a large majority of them being casted.

I don't see why they need 10 English casters when honestly bringing a Chinese or Korean commentary team is more likely to make me watch the stream unmuted.

I like having English casters, even is they aren't the best. I couldn't watch a stream muted, just doesn't keep me as interested. Plus this will be the triumphant reunion of the Deman+Joe Miller combo.

Edit: Also I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually prefer commentary in a language you don't understand, but I would guess you are in the minority .
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:15:20
November 16 2012 01:14 GMT
#1202
On November 16 2012 10:04 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 09:58 Seuss wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:30 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:26 Seuss wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:03 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Sigh..

I was hovering around gold before the reset, and now im at 1141 elo :/

I don't like this reset, every game I get a player who either massively feeds or trolls the shit out of the team.


Realize that between Elo compression from the reset and the huge swings that accompany placement matches things will be pretty random for a while. Focusing on your Elo at the moment is pretty pointless.

it's never entirely not pointless, elo, due to it's inherent randomness of teammates, never directly equates to skill
if you become a better player, your elo will increase (if you suddenly stop playing) eventually, so as long as you focus on fixing/improving your game play short term wins and/or losses shouldnt matter if you feel that you're playing well


When you reach certain thresholds in Elo and the season there are reasonable judgements one can make about one's Elo and how it reflects on your ability as a player. While it's true that most players overemphasize Elo, ignoring it entirely can also be a fault.

Right now just happens to be the best time to ignore it, because three straight wins for one player and three straight losses for another can bring together people who were 600 Elo apart at the end of Season 2.


That doesn't even take into account the compression as everyone was pushed towards 1200. Possibly even further elo gaps heh. I am 5-3 so far in placements O_o just hoping to not put myself in a hole early on.


Getting dropped a ton of games due to trolls is actually amazing. Eventually you get so low it's almost impossible to fuck up.

Last game I was Trist with cata rush Janna support, Lee getting dunked top by Darius, brain dead Maokai, and an Ori that let the other teams Kat rape her and roam bot constantly to camp me with their Shen.

Despite all that I still out cs'd their ashe, penta'd their team and carried to victory while spending over half my time raging in chat.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 16 2012 01:17 GMT
#1203
On November 16 2012 10:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 10:10 TheYango wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
They have a lot of casters lined up for IPL5. Not all of them are top tier, but it seems that every game will be streamed, with a large majority of them being casted.
https://twitter.com/NickAllenIGN/status/269231349435617280

I don't see why they need 10 English casters when honestly bringing a Chinese or Korean commentary team is more likely to make me watch the stream unmuted.

I like having English casters, even is they aren't the best. I couldn't watch a stream muted, just doesn't keep me as interested. Plus this will be the triumphant reunion of the Deman+Joe Miller combo.

Edit: Also I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually prefer commentary in a language you don't understand, but I would guess you are in the minority .

I mean the thing is, 6 English casters is pretty much enough to have the English commentary on smooth rotation between games, and 4 more caster slots for Chinese/Korean commentary would vastly expand the overall viewership of the event.
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 16 2012 01:20 GMT
#1204
On November 16 2012 10:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 10:10 TheYango wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
They have a lot of casters lined up for IPL5. Not all of them are top tier, but it seems that every game will be streamed, with a large majority of them being casted.
https://twitter.com/NickAllenIGN/status/269231349435617280

I don't see why they need 10 English casters when honestly bringing a Chinese or Korean commentary team is more likely to make me watch the stream unmuted.

I like having English casters, even is they aren't the best. I couldn't watch a stream muted, just doesn't keep me as interested. Plus this will be the triumphant reunion of the Deman+Joe Miller combo.

Edit: Also I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually prefer commentary in a language you don't understand, but I would guess you are in the minority .

lol ummmm welcome to teamliquid
GANDHISAUCE
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:25:31
November 16 2012 01:20 GMT
#1205
On November 16 2012 10:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 10:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 16 2012 10:10 TheYango wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
They have a lot of casters lined up for IPL5. Not all of them are top tier, but it seems that every game will be streamed, with a large majority of them being casted.
https://twitter.com/NickAllenIGN/status/269231349435617280

I don't see why they need 10 English casters when honestly bringing a Chinese or Korean commentary team is more likely to make me watch the stream unmuted.

I like having English casters, even is they aren't the best. I couldn't watch a stream muted, just doesn't keep me as interested. Plus this will be the triumphant reunion of the Deman+Joe Miller combo.

Edit: Also I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually prefer commentary in a language you don't understand, but I would guess you are in the minority .

I mean the thing is, 6 English casters is pretty much enough to have the English commentary on smooth rotation between games, and 4 more caster slots for Chinese/Korean commentary would vastly expand the overall viewership of the event.

Okay, that I agree with. Still I like that they are making a concerted effort to have casters for as many games as possible. That and we won't have the MLG problem of them just straight up not steaming some games.

Edit 2: Okay, I concede having foreign language casts as a means to improve viewership on an international scale is better than having all of the games casted in English. Guess that was kind of an egocentric point of view. At the end of they day I'll probably only end up watching one game at a time anyway.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
November 16 2012 01:21 GMT
#1206
On November 16 2012 10:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 10:10 TheYango wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
They have a lot of casters lined up for IPL5. Not all of them are top tier, but it seems that every game will be streamed, with a large majority of them being casted.
https://twitter.com/NickAllenIGN/status/269231349435617280

I don't see why they need 10 English casters when honestly bringing a Chinese or Korean commentary team is more likely to make me watch the stream unmuted.

I like having English casters, even is they aren't the best. I couldn't watch a stream muted, just doesn't keep me as interested. Plus this will be the triumphant reunion of the Deman+Joe Miller combo.

Edit: Also I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually prefer commentary in a language you don't understand, but I would guess you are in the minority .

Some of us understand foreign language casts (might even be in mother tongue). But having Chinese/Korean casters at an event with CN/KR teams would also help expand the viewer base to local and regional supporters of those teams.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 16 2012 01:23 GMT
#1207
People generally use elo the wrong way. Elo is a great self analysis tool since it basically never lies to you. You lie to yourself all the time. Just because you were X elo at S2 doesn't mean you are losing because of random teammates. You might be playing different roles or champs for example and your level might have dropped.

Playing to get elo is what is toxic and causes you to rage and enjoy games less and also make you get worse at the game. This is because games are played under the assumption you are already good enough to win the game and you are just basically grinding out the hours to get to your "true elo" and every time you lose 1 game you suddenly "have" to win 2 more to get higher and then if you lose again it gets frustrating. Thats why everyone should do the reverse. Use elo for self analysis and games to improve. Instead of using games for elo and games for self analysis ("teammates fed, couldn't do anything" when if you played better in the first place the game might not have snowballed )
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9208 Posts
November 16 2012 01:26 GMT
#1208
Always thought it's weird how much people complain about the OGN/GOM/WEM English casters when the western counterparts don't even have Asian casters.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:29:42
November 16 2012 01:29 GMT
#1209
Interesting, Quantic is having Nien play AD and Wild Turtle play AP in the IPL5 qualifier. One of WildTurtle's biggest issues mid is his champion pool, but I guess if they want to run one of those champs he's good at (Ryze, Gragas, TF) there's nothing wrong with them swapping roles.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 16 2012 01:29 GMT
#1210
aphromoo said this on stream today and it really stuck to me: ''when i play soloq i try to have as much fun as possible, and it also happens to be that when im having fun i tend to win more games''
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:33:11
November 16 2012 01:32 GMT
#1211
Why else would you be playing this game if not to have fun? Don't really get that at all. If you need a streamer to explain that to you
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 16 2012 01:34 GMT
#1212
its really easy to lose track and i think it happens to most people who try to take this game seriously eventually (from experience and analysis)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
November 16 2012 01:35 GMT
#1213
Chauster making some big plays against Quantic. Spellsheilding a trap during a dive in order to secure a kill, was some really nice play. If Loco and DLift can find the chemistry that DLift and Chauster have then CLG.na could potentially be quite scary.

...Aaaanddd CLG.na are all dc'd. Standard
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:36:46
November 16 2012 01:36 GMT
#1214
aphro's quote is also emotional fluff that appeals to many but actually has very little effect on your own performance.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 16 2012 01:36 GMT
#1215
Well as soon as you don't enjoy what you do you aren't going to be able to really be "your best" at it. So it's counter productive to be "serious" yet not enjoy it.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 16 2012 01:38 GMT
#1216
On November 16 2012 10:35 Amethyst21 wrote:
Chauster making some big plays against Quantic. Spellsheilding a trap during a dive in order to secure a kill, was some really nice play. If Loco and DLift can find the chemistry that DLift and Chauster have then CLG.na could potentially be quite scary.

...Aaaanddd CLG.na are all dc'd. Standard

Yeah, Chauster is looking really solid in the jungle, more productive than Hotshot anyway. Speaking of Hotshot, he still needs to expand his champ pool a little bit, but all in all they are looking much stronger than they did with Voy.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
November 16 2012 01:38 GMT
#1217
On November 16 2012 10:32 Numy wrote:
Why else would you be playing this game if not to have fun? Don't really get that at all. If you need a streamer to explain that to you


Some people have fun in different ways. Some have fun playing to win with 100% fire at all times, some have fun screwing around, some have fun trying to 'make plays.' Truth is there is a 1000 different ways to enjoy LoL and if you enjoy playing one way, then play that way...its a game -> have fun.

Though by my logic that justifies trolling if someone enjoys it...so my logic may not be the best.....
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 01:39:43
November 16 2012 01:39 GMT
#1218
On November 16 2012 10:36 kainzero wrote:
aphro's quote is also emotional fluff that appeals to many but actually has very little effect on your own performance.

Actually, it has plenty of effect on your performance. If you play while frustrated, you will find yourself doing stupid things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt_(poker)
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 16 2012 01:41 GMT
#1219
most importantly, it lets you keep a clear head and not lose your composure in the long run, also allowing you to play a lot of games in a row(something that pros have to do)
today i tried to have as much fun as possible and honestly i feel like i played better than when i was being super hard at myself and my team
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
adriftt
Profile Joined March 2012
335 Posts
November 16 2012 01:42 GMT
#1220
clg getting ddos raped again

gonna be pretty sad if they have to forfeit. final ipl5 qualifier is kind of a big deal
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