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United States23745 Posts
On November 26 2012 14:44 LoCicero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:30 onlywonderboy wrote:On November 26 2012 14:28 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 26 2012 14:23 Nos- wrote:
What exactly is holding Diginitas back? I'm not a good enough player to really say much about their game, but it just feels like they're... off at all times. With Crumbzz and Scarra on the team they're becoming THE NA team I'd like to root for, but their results make it a bit hard to :/ (also qtpie's hair is god damn legendary) Team calls. Teams like M5 feel like a hivemind. They engage, invade, retreat as 1, always as a team. dig have poor engagements way too often. It just looks like they're throwing left and right. This makes me really wish I got to watch Dig during the Jatt era when they had him as their shot caller . May your wish become reality. These are games from when I subbed for Dig at IPL3 about a year ago. Jatt was our jungle and main shot caller. Game 1: CLG v. DigGame 2: CLG v. DigGame 3: CLG v. DigFinals Game 1: Epik v. DigFinals Game 2: Epik v. DigFinals Game 3: Epik v. DigThere are more out there but I assume these will be enough.
Thanks man, I'll definitely watch these as soon as I get some free time.
Unrelated, I was reading a prediction article I wrote for PAX and I came across this line in regards to CLG.
While I think they will qualify for the Season 2 Championship, if they do poorly there, I wouldn't be surprised to see a roster change before Season 3 begins.
Called it haha.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
voyboy again on Elise. Dont think that is a good pick for him.
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Man, those VODs feel like an age ago. Old GP art/default skin, CV was common, and all sorts of stuff. That's when I became a Dignitas fan. It's kind of been downhill since then. >_>
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WoDx took a tower shot then got ganked, then told his viewers that he got camped.
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Teams should be practicing cohesion and shot calling in these tourneys instead of new champs/teamcomps :/
When the NA teams stream scrims or small tourneys it sounds like a huge clusterfuck of "we can fight this i'm tp'ing in" vs "yo back out don't engage."
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United States37500 Posts
Rhux, feels like a real big step up for Crs.
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Sometimes I look at threads in the Dota2 section. I never tried it, I played a little bit of the original Dota but I only really gave LoL a try and the deciding factor for me was purely the art style.
But sometimes I'm curious and I read Dota2 threads. And they all start with people saying "If you come from LoL never say champions, say heroes or people will flame the hell out of you."
And when I read this I'm just kinda like "Nah, I think I'd rather leave that game alone."
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Lol Voyboy, got dunked out of nowhere, sup son!!
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Nows that some impressive escape from Rhux, but Cop is somewhat lacking atm.
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On November 26 2012 14:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hey LoCi.
You still watch dig games? Any insight on dig then and now, as a player who's played with the team? :3
I don't follow the scene nearly as much as I used to, but from what I've seen I feel that missing Jatt has been hurting them. Jatt has a great tactical mind and had a commanding enough presence to keep us disciplined during the games, I don't see that with IWD. I think IWD is a good player but I think he can let his emotions get the best of him based on my own personal experiences with him. That is not something you want in your jungler who should be your team's tactical mind. So personally I think filling Jatt's spot with IWD left something to be desired.
I felt that after Jatt left Scarra needed to step up and take control of the team as I felt he really should be the leader based on his personality and skills. Him and Jatt struck me as being the heart of the team and with Jatt leaving he needed to step up and I don't feel like that happened. However, I feel like that didn't really happen. As a mid player I always thought that Scarra was the best player in that position, so I have been a bit disappointed as I think he has been under-performing.
Patoy was a good pickup and I've been impressed with him, from what I've seen. L0cust did his job well and I can't say if I think he was hurting the team's performance when he was benched, but Patoy is doing well.
Qtpie is king though, he was consistent when I played with him and he seems consistent now. I was never incredibly impressed with him when I played against him back in the day but it's pretty clear that he's a good AD imo.
Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Also, apparently Jatt gave me a shoutout in some tournament recently (word on the street). Anyone have video of this so I can check it out? Jatt is a homie.
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I've said this before but Voyboy is such a monster at diving. If you see him going for a dive you can be 99% sure he'll make it out with a sliver of health.
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United States37500 Posts
On November 26 2012 15:07 LoCicero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hey LoCi.
You still watch dig games? Any insight on dig then and now, as a player who's played with the team? :3
I don't follow the scene nearly as much as I used to, but from what I've seen I feel that missing Jatt has been hurting them. Jatt has a great tactical mind and had a commanding enough presence to keep us disciplined during the games, I don't see that with IWD. I think IWD is a good player but I think he can let his emotions get the best of him based on my own personal experiences with him. That is not something you want in your jungler who should be your team's tactical mind. So personally I think filling Jatt's spot with IWD left something to be desired. I felt that after Jatt left Scarra needed to step up and take control of the team as I felt he really should be the leader based on his personality and skills. Him and Jatt struck me as being the heart of the team and with Jatt leaving he needed to step up and I don't feel like that happened. However, I feel like that didn't really happen. As a mid player I always felt that Scarra was the best player in that position, so I have been a bit disappointed as I feel he has been under-performing. Patoy was a good pickup and I've been impressed with him, from what I've seen. L0cust did his job well and I can't say if I think he was hurting the team's performance when he was benched, but Patoy is doing well. Qtpie is king though, he was consistent when I played with him and he seems consistent now. I was never incredibly impressed with him when I played against him back in the day but it's pretty clear that he's a good AD imo. Anyway, just my 2 cents. Also, apparently Jatt gave me a shoutout in some tournament recently (word on the street). Anyone have video of this so I can check it out? Jatt is a homie.
I pretty much agree with you on all points. XD But good to see we're in consensus though.
scarra, I think the community expects a ton from him and rightfully so. If dig still doesn't have a shotcaller, scarra needs to step up. Unbelievably so. He has the knowledge, just needs to be assertive.
qtpie is by far the most consistent player on dig. He's overshadowed by scarra and Voy from before and is only recently getting recognized for his consistency. I feel like consistency is slowly becoming the norm though. Chaox is consistent too but you really need flashes of brilliance, especially late game, to be called a good or great ADC.
IWD, probably the weak link on the team. Has a ton of questionable engages in recent matches. Weakest link doesn't mean he needs to be benched but as a team, dig needs to get on the same page.
For Jatt shoutout... google showed me this link.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=379086¤tpage=94#1869
I'm not sure what game but at least we know for sure it was during MLG Dallas. :D I can look into it more tmr if no one else can find it.
As for this Crs v dig match, echoing Shake. Voy looks as good as ever now. Elise is such a great duelist, it's silly. I don't know why some of you doubt the Elise pick.
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On November 26 2012 14:59 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rhux, feels like a real big step up for Crs.
Not surprising considering how bad Elementz is.
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United States37500 Posts
On November 26 2012 15:17 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:59 NeoIllusions wrote:
Rhux, feels like a real big step up for Crs. Not surprising considering how bad Elementz is.
h4h4
But there's a dearth of good free agent players though, esp Support and Jungle.
And no, I don't consider Nhat that great of a support. So this Rhux pickup actually bode well for Crs.na.
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Scarra beasted that kill on Cop. Faked Cop out with the barrel roll instead of the ult, gets the kill by baiting out Cop's flash and waiting for the timing for his gragas hump to come back up. Too good.
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On November 26 2012 15:12 HazMat wrote:
I've said this before but Voyboy is such a monster at diving. If you see him going for a dive you can be 99% sure he'll make it out with a sliver of health.
And there's that 1%.
But holy shit, Elise hurts. I've definitely been underestimating the damage she can do....
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
I doubted the Elise pick, because in the last game he did not seem impressive with elise and I am pretty sure if he would have died in the first engagement. The game would have turned out to be different.
In my opinion he got lucky with 2 top trades where he barely lived.
Now you can argue if that was pro sense or just luck. This game he is dominant in the top lane with elise no doubt.
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How Cop is losing this hard to qtpie? 80cs apart now.
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On November 26 2012 15:26 Caphe wrote:
How Cop is losing this hard to qtpie? 80cs apart now.
Crs picked an all in lane w/ Leona and they got behind, so Lulu/twitch could easily zone from cs.
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On November 26 2012 15:29 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 15:26 Caphe wrote:
How Cop is losing this hard to qtpie? 80cs apart now. Crs picked an all in lane w/ Leona and they got behind, so Lulu/twitch could easily zone from cs.
Leona is kind of bad against Lulu to begin with.
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