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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:23 Sufficiency wrote: Doesn't he have mindless sustain and aoe waveclear that doubles as a ganking tool? Mindless sustain? Dam that 5 seconds of 5% lifesteal. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:23 D u o wrote: Clear speeds suck, not viable to run boot 3 anymore because it adds about 30 seconds to your clear times. So overall you're slower in ganks making it harder to gank at lower levels because you'll be using the machete and lanes will probably have boots. The machete doesn't add anything to your ganking ability so its an incentive to farm more, something that leesin doesn't exceed very well at in season 3 jungles. ^ That's what I thought as soon as I heard about the switch from boots to machete openings. Hurts gank junglers so hard. Oh well Hecarim gonna be op. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:23 D u o wrote: Clear speeds suck, not viable to run boot 3 anymore because it adds about 30 seconds to your clear times. So overall you're slower in ganks making it harder to gank at lower levels because you'll be using the machete and lanes will probably have boots. The machete doesn't add anything to your ganking ability so its an incentive to farm more, something that leesin doesn't exceed very well at in season 3 jungles. Boots aren't as big of a deal in the new jungle though. For reference, an AD carry with boots will actually move as fast or slower than a bruiser without boots. You won't have a speed advantage, but it's not like all your gank targets will be moving faster than you. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:26 HazMat wrote: Mindless sustain? Dam that 5 seconds of 5% lifesteal. Just think about it this way, if Lee Sin sucks in jungle, that means he's gunna get a buff right?  | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
IPL5 groups up. CLG.na lucked out so hard. Wildcard into the easiest group in the tourney. God damnit Dig why did you lose, could have easily made it past group stages. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:30 Craton wrote: Don't count FeaR out so easily. Hard not to. You're right though, I think it's pretty apparent that any NA team can beat one another on any given day. Hell, Meat takes games off CLG. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:26 HazMat wrote: ^ That's what I thought as soon as I heard about the switch from boots to machete openings. Hurts gank junglers so hard. Oh well Hecarim gonna be op. At least boot speeds got nerfed. @__@ just go GP get the new avarice blade, and farm all game. That's what i'm going to do @__@ q will grant you at least 4 extra gold per kill and avarice blade gives you 2 extra gold ontop of that plus 4gp10. Get a TF mid and just farm for 20 minutes. From what i read somewhere the s2 jungle gives you more gold before a specific time point, and i think it was pretty drastic too like before 15 minutes s2 jungle gives you more than s3 just because the clears are harder and the amount of time it takes you is longer. Back to s1 meta, fiddle every game for the first month @___@ | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:26 HazMat wrote: Mindless sustain? Dam that 5 seconds of 5% lifesteal. And a shield. And it costs no mana. And it doubles as an AS steroid. And for some reason his aoe clear doubles as a ganking tool because it applies a massive AS and MS debuff. And I am very bitter about that champion. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:34 Sufficiency wrote: And a shield. And it costs no mana. And it doubles as an AS steroid. And for some reason his aoe clear doubles as a ganking tool. And I am very bitter about that champion. But his clear has been proven to be realllllllly bad S3 so can't complain. His early game jungle is his only strong point atm. | ||
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:27 Seuss wrote: Boots aren't as big of a deal in the new jungle though. For reference, an AD carry with boots will actually move as fast or slower than a bruiser without boots. You won't have a speed advantage, but it's not like all your gank targets will be moving faster than you. I'm saying relative now, it'll be harder to catch them earlier, before you invest into movement when they've already invested in movement, right now its pretty standard you get boot 3 so you can be a threat even though you may not plan to gank it still threatens the player that the posibility is there. You'll be moving as fast as their adc and if they've got the areas warded [which they dont have to ward so early anymore because you're taking so long to clear] they're even more safe. The slower you are the safer they are. That is all i'm saying. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:33 wei2coolman wrote: Wow, group D is the group of death. O.o. I feel bad for Curse. it's as if they never stood a chance. Blackbean will win. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:34 Sufficiency wrote: And a shield. And it costs no mana. And it doubles as an AS steroid. And for some reason his aoe clear doubles as a ganking tool because it applies a massive AS and MS debuff. And I am very bitter about that champion. Champs with bullshit kits for 500 Alex. Also in this category: Irelia. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
First off there are 2 teams of the same organization on one team Fear is really strong I kinda think group C is a little easier, man.. Fear is just good.. I think they are on about the same level as clg.na.. I think it's gonna turn out bad. If clg.na were in group C, they would be the strongest team there. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:33 wei2coolman wrote: Wow, group D is the group of death. O.o. I feel bad for Curse. it's as if they never stood a chance. Yea I don't think Curse will have much fun. Perhaps Rhux can be awesome. Or they saw the groups and then decided to just give Elementz some vacation. I think every group but C has an easy apparent top 2. SS should win, but the second place could go either way. Want some TSM IPL magic but their last scrim against CLG.na last night resulted in their 3-1 defeat -.- | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:29 HazMat wrote: http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/IGN_ProLeague_Season_5 IPL5 groups up. CLG.na lucked out so hard. Wildcard into the easiest group in the tourney. God damnit Dig why did you lose, could have easily made it past group stages. Group C is easier than group B. Iceland is at least good enough to take games from TPA. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 22 2012 12:35 HazMat wrote: But his clear has been proven to be realllllllly bad S3 so can't complain. His early game jungle is his only strong point atm. I have a feeling that it's still going to be way better than Maokai/Sejuani/Rammus/Nautilus. | ||
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