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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 13 2012 09:09 GMT
#261
On November 13 2012 15:39 overt wrote:
I hope they don't nerf Athenes. Only reason it's being bought now is because Abyssal and DFG got nerfed. It's almost like the community wants everyone to go back to S1 build 2 drings into dcap on every AP mid that isn't Anivia.

If people still built ROA people would call it OP.


The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of viable choices for mana except Chalice/Grail right now. Tear builds into AA which isn't that great (glasscannon), and Catalyst/RoA is not that great for mana sustain outside of the laning phase.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 13 2012 09:26 GMT
#262
On November 13 2012 18:09 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 15:39 overt wrote:
I hope they don't nerf Athenes. Only reason it's being bought now is because Abyssal and DFG got nerfed. It's almost like the community wants everyone to go back to S1 build 2 drings into dcap on every AP mid that isn't Anivia.

If people still built ROA people would call it OP.


The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of viable choices for mana except Chalice/Grail right now. Tear builds into AA which isn't that great (glasscannon), and Catalyst/RoA is not that great for mana sustain outside of the laning phase.


I think it's more of most AP's can very easily teamfight with the mana from just grail+blue buff. Only a few have such high burst mana usage to warrant building a pool (zilean, AP kog, kassadin), or have kits that benefit immensely from being able to sustain high mana usage over long periods of time(Anivia, swain, karthus)
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#263
Karthus is not for me in that list. If I'm ever in range where E is going to do damage, im doing down within the next 2 seconds anway
KCCO!
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
November 13 2012 10:07 GMT
#264
Elise buffs. She was already plenty strong as a tanky AP top but me likey.
Faster Cocoon is certainly going to make a difference, I think.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 13 2012 10:44 GMT
#265
I guess if you're bored without league on NA, open up the client again and change region to Europe West and download the patch now.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 10:46:19
November 13 2012 10:45 GMT
#266
Edit: Wrong thread
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 11:11:17
November 13 2012 11:05 GMT
#267
On November 13 2012 19:44 Irave wrote:
I guess if you're bored without league on NA, open up the client again and change region to Europe West and download the patch now.

Except you can't download the patch on Eu west yet.

The service status says they're almost there for an hour and a half now

Edit: new update, it'll take time than riot anticipated.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 13 2012 11:08 GMT
#268
Lets refresh our memories how awesome TOTL was:

WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 11:17:24
November 13 2012 11:16 GMT
#269
On November 13 2012 20:08 ExoFun wrote:
Lets refresh our memories how awesome TOTL was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD4eJfxqcxk&feature=context-gfa

Deman is great to hear whatever he is saying, amazing guy.

I'm french and I didn't even know that this tourney was going on, and I'm real close to Paris. Damn.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 13 2012 11:17 GMT
#270
French crowds are really awesome, reminds me of Iron Squid.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 13 2012 11:42 GMT
#271
Does anyone know how long EUwest is going to be down? How long were the american servers down for the patch?
Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
November 13 2012 11:53 GMT
#272
On November 13 2012 15:55 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 15:47 gaizka wrote:
Soooooo..... I want to lose my first few matches for the new season.
-How many placement matches do you get? Is there a fixed number or an indicator?
-Whats the fastest way to lose games? I'd like the games to be like 20 minute surrenders.
-How to get away with it without getting reported? Do I just act dumb?


Make your mother play your placement matches.


Play any lane and last hit very poorly, I'm talking 10cs by 10min. Then force a dragon fight with one of your teams member away, lose it completely, write gg in team chat and that's that.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
November 13 2012 12:02 GMT
#273
EUW down and lolreddit down as well now x.x. Nothing to do except watch GSL
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 13 2012 12:10 GMT
#274
On November 13 2012 21:02 Serelitz wrote:
EUW down and lolreddit down as well now x.x. Nothing to do except watch GSL

http://www.twitch.tv/azubuogn/popout
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 13 2012 12:10 GMT
#275
On November 13 2012 21:02 Serelitz wrote:
EUW down and lolreddit down as well now x.x. Nothing to do except watch GSL


I could finally get to work on some of my plans (for world domination), but... that's work =(
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
w(oO)t
Profile Joined November 2009
New Zealand40 Posts
November 13 2012 12:28 GMT
#276
haha! Korean server still up :D
Diderick
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands298 Posts
November 13 2012 12:39 GMT
#277
Is any server already patched and up again?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 13 2012 12:39 GMT
#278
On November 13 2012 21:39 Diderick wrote:
Is any server already patched and up again?

eu ne but plenty of bugs
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
November 13 2012 13:06 GMT
#279
Zed looks pretty interesting. Rengar/Khazix/Elise/Syndra didn't do much for me but I think I might pick up the new champion.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 13 2012 13:12 GMT
#280
The news item about Zed says that he fares well as "AP lane", I'm not sure that people won't find it misleading.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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