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Yea if you want to make something work and have fun playing it there is no reason not too. There isn't a single champion in the game right now that can't be good if he's played effectively. People that obsess about picking OPs are fucking cancer,there's nothing more that I hate right now in league than people who caps you to pick ezreal or rengar every fucking game.
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On October 18 2012 04:59 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 04:52 Vaporized wrote: and im sorry if my posts are confrontational. its just really obnoxious to constantly see people saying things like they are fact when they are really opinions. furthermore, it is kind of beside the point if shyvana is outclassed in tournament games (which i dont even think is true. Saint draws shyv bans, and the very fact that she was deemed good enough to play for a million dollars says she is not outclassed). none of us play in (meaningful) tournaments, and what happens in them has little to no bearing on our games. While this is true, it's also the only environment in which the phrase "I wish X was viable" holds any relevant meaning. what 'relevant meaning' does that argument really hold though? pro players dont ask our opinion about what to play. we can THEORIZE about what is good and what isnt, but at the end of the day that doesnt mean jack shit. especially when you say something like shyvana is impractical when she was one of what? 6-10 junglers picked in the championships. and saying that well she lost her game so therefore she sucks is also faulty logic because that isnt taking into account what the lanes were doing, which has a huge impact on what kind of game the jungler will have.
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United States47024 Posts
Ok, in that case let's not talk about "viability", period. It's not useful to anyone, at any level, period, and only serves to start pointless arguments (like this one).
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So, this Shadow Isles and Elise stuff...
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On October 18 2012 05:11 TheYango wrote: Ok, in that case let's not talk about "viability", period. It's not useful to anyone, at any level, period hey, we finally agree. its the 'backseat driver'/'armchair quarterback' of lol discussions.
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fuck it alrdy have all the twisted fate skins now another one is released
also finally Ill get a maokai skin since I missed the christmas one and the normal ones are terrible.
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OddOne playing Khazix jungle on stream atm. Building HoG, mercs, Hexdrinker then aegis. Me no liek. His explanation for not building heavy AD is that his team already has a heavy AD champ (Riven top).
I don't know man, with the ratios that bug guy has, I can understand building 1 defensive item. But going all out bruiser on a guy that has only bonus AD scaling seems kinda iffy. He hasn't gotten evolved Q yet either, meaning that his damage will be piss poor.
He doesn't evolve Q at all, it seems like. W first, E after.
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TOO's not the only high Elo player that's not evolving Q.
Realistically, the detection range on Q's solo bonus damage will only ever apply in solo-kill scenarios. The likelihood of a target being outside of 600 range from an ally (particularly a back-line target that you're going to be diving) in a teamfight is almost zero.
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I am throwing my wallet at the screen but still no Underworld TF yet
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yea I would agree that not evolving q on khazix is the correct choice, the bonus on the other 3 skills are much greater. He does not seem that great in jungle though, needs a solo lane imo. W > Q > E but W > E/R evolves
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On October 18 2012 05:03 TheKefka wrote: People that obsess about picking OPs are fucking cancer,there's nothing more that I hate right now in league than people who caps you to pick ezreal or rengar every fucking game.
What gets to me is the fact that how can someone get good with a champ if they are bullied out of picking it in the first place. Practice is the only way to get good at it and who knows, maybe they will find a way to make a champ "viable". I remember when people were whining that maokai was trash and should never be picked. Then Chu comes along and now many people have hopped on the bandwagon.
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On October 18 2012 05:40 TheYango wrote: TOO's not the only high Elo player that's not evolving Q.
Realistically, the detection range on Q's solo bonus damage will only ever apply in solo-kill scenarios. The likelihood of a target being outside of 600 range from an ally (particularly a back-line target that you're going to be diving) in a teamfight is almost zero.
That makes a lot of sense, thanks.
I think I'm going to try and play him some more, his mecha skin is really neat, and his skillset is a lot of fun. I played him the same as TOO, except that I built more AD heavy (Phage/BT/GA), and got Q evolve after W. I think I might switch that for E now. Seeing what you can get away with if you evolve E, it looks really nice even if you build AD heavy.
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E is so gud, wtf. Long jump range and refreshes? I don't understand...
I'll have to try out W max sometime. Kha'Zix isn't as faceroll as say Rengar. Pretty sure everyone is still trying to figure him out. :O
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On October 18 2012 05:56 NeoIllusions wrote: E is so gud, wtf. Long jump range and refreshes? I don't understand...
I'll have to try out W max sometime. Kha'Zix isn't as faceroll as say Rengar. Pretty sure everyone is still trying to figure him out. :O
W max first is really awesome. If you evolve it too, it really does a hefty amount of damage and the heal ain't half bad either, it also procs your passive on all hit targets, which is awesome. The rockets/spines also seem to have a pretty large explosion range evolved, because it's really easy to blow up entire waves of creeps with it, and it's extremely hard to miss any champions with evolved W.
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yeah w max is the only way ive had any success jungling. i tend to think he is better top or mid but i havent played him much either.
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On October 18 2012 05:56 NeoIllusions wrote: E is so gud, wtf. Long jump range and refreshes? I don't understand...
I'll have to try out W max sometime. Kha'Zix isn't as faceroll as say Rengar. Pretty sure everyone is still trying to figure him out. :O E is best ganking tool probably, though slow on W from evolution is real nice. Seen so many fail wall jumps with that E though....much like Trist. Oh on that note, has anyone tried Trist out yet since they were supposedly going to be fixing something about her? I somewhat agree with not evolving Q first, especially if you're laning, however his trading/1v1 dueling power is unparalleled with that evolved Q (Rengar is probably better). I would think if you're going to do some heavy counterjungling where there are no minions to help, you could evolve Q in the hopes of sneaking up on an unsuspecting jungler and 2 shotting them?
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damn so excited for ipl5 expecially seeing eloblade aka the new alternate for their first lan event, they are destroying Sk atm, though IPL will have such a heavy asian lineup, so their chances of placing high will be small
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I am looking forward to see how much WE improves by IPL5.
Misaya just needs to find his stride again--the passive mid laners played at Worlds like Ori and Anivia just don't fit his much more active playstyle at all.
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