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On October 23 2012 17:16 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 16:58 kainzero wrote:On October 23 2012 16:25 IMoperator wrote:
Syndra is going to be fotm status soon imo. People need to learn to not concentrate on their stun too much, the main damage is Q+W and the range on both of those is so far that you should be able to hit both really easily without needing to set it up with your stun. people concentrate on her stun? i've had success just dropping orbs in lane to zone them out once i have chalice and i make them fear the toss or stun. it's easy to chase... Q then W toss, then E to stun. i also feel like she's really good at poking people under tower because of her E. you try to Q them, then you try to throw the orb, and then you make them fear the E. or you can even put down another Q and try to E that way. I feel her poking power is mediocre. Her Q is comparable to Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q; neither of them are known for poking. The biggest incoming change is the ability to stun + knockback at the same time. That's basically an Alistar combo right there, except it also does a lot of damage and Syndra does not need to commit to anything. I am really confused about the Syndra situation tbh. During her beta-testing stages, she actually got nerfed and lost some ratio on her Q. I don't think Riot would do this unless they recognize that she was OP.
Her Q has a lot of damage. Her Q and W do a stupid amount of damage, my usual combo is Q W Q Ult, no need for using E at all. And what I meant by concentrating on the stun is that people think that you wont be able to do your combo without your stun, which is just straight up false.
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On October 24 2012 05:24 qtiehunter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 05:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
I fucking hate GP ult. If he's on your team, cannonballs don't hit shit. If he's on the other team, 4 cannonballs in a row on your carry and you. The other day I was on the run with 30hp left and the whole enemy team behind me and enemy GP ulted on top of my face. I made it out alive 
like 2 months ago I got killed from half hp as lvl 9 j4 after a gank by gp ult. it did something like 650 damage.
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they could change gp ult to work something like kennen's R or ziggs E, launches 10 canonbals (that prefer heros over minions) but cant hit same champion more than 3 times, or each canon ball hit reduces the damage by 20% of the next one down to 40% reduction.
He was my main and in the last 5 months I played him like 4 or 5 games. His jungling is pretty much dead and his toplane's early games is so weak
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If Riot is tweaking the jungle to be better for single target junglers (which it sounds like), GP jungle may come back.
I think his ult's fine. RNG sucks, sure, but it's good utility (huge AoE slow and global presence are never bad things) and doesn't really need to be just another AoE damage ult to be good.
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On October 24 2012 05:34 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 17:16 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2012 16:58 kainzero wrote:On October 23 2012 16:25 IMoperator wrote:
Syndra is going to be fotm status soon imo. People need to learn to not concentrate on their stun too much, the main damage is Q+W and the range on both of those is so far that you should be able to hit both really easily without needing to set it up with your stun. people concentrate on her stun? i've had success just dropping orbs in lane to zone them out once i have chalice and i make them fear the toss or stun. it's easy to chase... Q then W toss, then E to stun. i also feel like she's really good at poking people under tower because of her E. you try to Q them, then you try to throw the orb, and then you make them fear the E. or you can even put down another Q and try to E that way. I feel her poking power is mediocre. Her Q is comparable to Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q; neither of them are known for poking. The biggest incoming change is the ability to stun + knockback at the same time. That's basically an Alistar combo right there, except it also does a lot of damage and Syndra does not need to commit to anything. I am really confused about the Syndra situation tbh. During her beta-testing stages, she actually got nerfed and lost some ratio on her Q. I don't think Riot would do this unless they recognize that she was OP. Her Q has a lot of damage. Her Q and W do a stupid amount of damage, my usual combo is Q W Q Ult, no need for using E at all. And what I meant by concentrating on the stun is that people think that you wont be able to do your combo without your stun, which is just straight up false.
You can't expect to hit Q twice. The W doesn't slow enough for you to do that.
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On October 24 2012 05:34 IMoperator wrote:
Her Q has a lot of damage. Her Q and W do a stupid amount of damage, my usual combo is Q W Q Ult, no need for using E at all. And what I meant by concentrating on the stun is that people think that you wont be able to do your combo without your stun, which is just straight up false.
you can use the stun for lots of things... escapes or assisting with escapes, shotgunning with ulti, stun setups in lane, or pursuing after W. but yeah i don't see why you need to stun before combo.
as for Q poking, uh, it could potentially set up W and E and maybe another Q. with chalice it's a never ending chain of pokes, W has a range of 925, Q is 800, i don't see why it's mediocre. in my experience she's been great at tower standoffs, it's really hard to not get poked down by her.
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On October 24 2012 06:08 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 05:34 IMoperator wrote:On October 23 2012 17:16 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2012 16:58 kainzero wrote:On October 23 2012 16:25 IMoperator wrote:
Syndra is going to be fotm status soon imo. People need to learn to not concentrate on their stun too much, the main damage is Q+W and the range on both of those is so far that you should be able to hit both really easily without needing to set it up with your stun. people concentrate on her stun? i've had success just dropping orbs in lane to zone them out once i have chalice and i make them fear the toss or stun. it's easy to chase... Q then W toss, then E to stun. i also feel like she's really good at poking people under tower because of her E. you try to Q them, then you try to throw the orb, and then you make them fear the E. or you can even put down another Q and try to E that way. I feel her poking power is mediocre. Her Q is comparable to Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q; neither of them are known for poking. The biggest incoming change is the ability to stun + knockback at the same time. That's basically an Alistar combo right there, except it also does a lot of damage and Syndra does not need to commit to anything. I am really confused about the Syndra situation tbh. During her beta-testing stages, she actually got nerfed and lost some ratio on her Q. I don't think Riot would do this unless they recognize that she was OP. Her Q has a lot of damage. Her Q and W do a stupid amount of damage, my usual combo is Q W Q Ult, no need for using E at all. And what I meant by concentrating on the stun is that people think that you wont be able to do your combo without your stun, which is just straight up false. You can't expect to hit Q twice. The W doesn't slow enough for you to do that.
Do you mean duration or magnitude? Cause if it's duration there's no reason to W right after Q unless you're leveling W (but then you don't need second Q anyway). If it's magnitude I think even a 25 or 30% slow helps a lot.
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On October 24 2012 05:37 jadoth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 05:24 qtiehunter wrote:On October 24 2012 05:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
I fucking hate GP ult. If he's on your team, cannonballs don't hit shit. If he's on the other team, 4 cannonballs in a row on your carry and you. The other day I was on the run with 30hp left and the whole enemy team behind me and enemy GP ulted on top of my face. I made it out alive like 2 months ago I got killed from half hp as lvl 9 j4 after a gank by gp ult. it did something like 650 damage.
sounds like you need to stop playing against AP gangplank
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On October 24 2012 06:15 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 06:08 Sufficiency wrote:On October 24 2012 05:34 IMoperator wrote:On October 23 2012 17:16 Sufficiency wrote:On October 23 2012 16:58 kainzero wrote:On October 23 2012 16:25 IMoperator wrote:
Syndra is going to be fotm status soon imo. People need to learn to not concentrate on their stun too much, the main damage is Q+W and the range on both of those is so far that you should be able to hit both really easily without needing to set it up with your stun. people concentrate on her stun? i've had success just dropping orbs in lane to zone them out once i have chalice and i make them fear the toss or stun. it's easy to chase... Q then W toss, then E to stun. i also feel like she's really good at poking people under tower because of her E. you try to Q them, then you try to throw the orb, and then you make them fear the E. or you can even put down another Q and try to E that way. I feel her poking power is mediocre. Her Q is comparable to Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q; neither of them are known for poking. The biggest incoming change is the ability to stun + knockback at the same time. That's basically an Alistar combo right there, except it also does a lot of damage and Syndra does not need to commit to anything. I am really confused about the Syndra situation tbh. During her beta-testing stages, she actually got nerfed and lost some ratio on her Q. I don't think Riot would do this unless they recognize that she was OP. Her Q has a lot of damage. Her Q and W do a stupid amount of damage, my usual combo is Q W Q Ult, no need for using E at all. And what I meant by concentrating on the stun is that people think that you wont be able to do your combo without your stun, which is just straight up false. You can't expect to hit Q twice. The W doesn't slow enough for you to do that. Do you mean duration or magnitude? Cause if it's duration there's no reason to W right after Q unless you're leveling W (but then you don't need second Q anyway). If it's magnitude I think even a 25 or 30% slow helps a lot.
In a situation when all 5 opposing team members are in close proximity, it's not possible to hit Q W Q in succession because even with maximized CDR, the 30% slow is not enough to ensure you have enough zone to cast a second Q and still hit. 3 seconds is plenty of time to get away even with 30% slow on you.
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Oh wow tT doing really well then just lose 2 team fights solid into GG
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..... i just got banned for saying dunked in all chat and them saying im not yi and im like darius new dunkmaster....... WTF riot real.
OMG I JUST REALIZED THIS MEANS I MISS HALLOWEEN SKINS.........
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On October 24 2012 06:33 samthesaluki wrote:
..... i just got banned for saying dunked in all chat and them saying im not yi and im like darius new dunkmaster....... WTF riot real.
Pics or it never happened.
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If you behave in game like your style of posting suggests then it's no wonder you get banned and lets me assume that there are more reason for you being banned than just this little "dunked"-story you told us.
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On October 24 2012 06:15 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 05:37 jadoth wrote:On October 24 2012 05:24 qtiehunter wrote:On October 24 2012 05:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
I fucking hate GP ult. If he's on your team, cannonballs don't hit shit. If he's on the other team, 4 cannonballs in a row on your carry and you. The other day I was on the run with 30hp left and the whole enemy team behind me and enemy GP ulted on top of my face. I made it out alive like 2 months ago I got killed from half hp as lvl 9 j4 after a gank by gp ult. it did something like 650 damage. sounds like you need to stop playing against AP gangplank
AP gangplank so fun. Oranges heal so much.
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On October 24 2012 06:38 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 06:15 Eiii wrote:On October 24 2012 05:37 jadoth wrote:On October 24 2012 05:24 qtiehunter wrote:On October 24 2012 05:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
I fucking hate GP ult. If he's on your team, cannonballs don't hit shit. If he's on the other team, 4 cannonballs in a row on your carry and you. The other day I was on the run with 30hp left and the whole enemy team behind me and enemy GP ulted on top of my face. I made it out alive like 2 months ago I got killed from half hp as lvl 9 j4 after a gank by gp ult. it did something like 650 damage. sounds like you need to stop playing against AP gangplank AP gangplank so fun. Oranges heal so much.
They laughed at my Kages. Maxing oranges and trololo out of there 2fun.
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On October 24 2012 06:42 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 06:38 thenexusp wrote:On October 24 2012 06:15 Eiii wrote:On October 24 2012 05:37 jadoth wrote:On October 24 2012 05:24 qtiehunter wrote:On October 24 2012 05:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
I fucking hate GP ult. If he's on your team, cannonballs don't hit shit. If he's on the other team, 4 cannonballs in a row on your carry and you. The other day I was on the run with 30hp left and the whole enemy team behind me and enemy GP ulted on top of my face. I made it out alive like 2 months ago I got killed from half hp as lvl 9 j4 after a gank by gp ult. it did something like 650 damage. sounds like you need to stop playing against AP gangplank AP gangplank so fun. Oranges heal so much. They laughed at my Kages. Maxing oranges and trololo out of there 2fun.
Best part is that your Q kind of scales with AP because Lichbane.
(Yeah, I know. That doesn't really count as scaling.)
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On October 24 2012 06:34 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 06:33 samthesaluki wrote:
..... i just got banned for saying dunked in all chat and them saying im not yi and im like darius new dunkmaster....... WTF riot real. Pics or it never happened.
First they came for 'gg noobs', and I did not speak out because I did not bm.
Then they came for 'dunked', and I did not speak out because I was not a dunkmaster...
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On October 24 2012 06:33 samthesaluki wrote:
..... i just got banned for saying dunked in all chat and them saying im not yi and im like darius new dunkmaster....... WTF riot real.
OMG I JUST REALIZED THIS MEANS I MISS HALLOWEEN SKINS.........
I'm going to take the bait on this one:
You aren't banned for your actions in one specific game; in fact, considering how Tribunal works, I bet your most recent game didn't even factor into your ban at all.
Sam apparently you've been banned before and I've seen your attitude towards solo Q....it's not healthy dude. If it was a temp ban I would suggest learning not to say anything at all while you're playing, or muting all chat or something.
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On October 24 2012 06:47 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 06:42 Requizen wrote:On October 24 2012 06:38 thenexusp wrote:On October 24 2012 06:15 Eiii wrote:On October 24 2012 05:37 jadoth wrote:On October 24 2012 05:24 qtiehunter wrote:On October 24 2012 05:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
I fucking hate GP ult. If he's on your team, cannonballs don't hit shit. If he's on the other team, 4 cannonballs in a row on your carry and you. The other day I was on the run with 30hp left and the whole enemy team behind me and enemy GP ulted on top of my face. I made it out alive like 2 months ago I got killed from half hp as lvl 9 j4 after a gank by gp ult. it did something like 650 damage. sounds like you need to stop playing against AP gangplank AP gangplank so fun. Oranges heal so much. They laughed at my Kages. Maxing oranges and trololo out of there 2fun. Best part is that your Q kind of scales with AP because Lichbane. (Yeah, I know. That doesn't really count as scaling.)
With current DFG and lich bane, every champ can be built AP!
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That's how it was even with pre-buff dfg..... zzz
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