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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:05 little fancy wrote: Btw: anyone watching this? M5 reviving good old clairvoyance summoner spell, moving the exhaust onto the AD carry. Who is the caster? | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
Someone called Matt, I didn't really pay attention. He only changes to full screen when games are going on, so as soon as the game ends, you can even see him as he uses a webcam and a nice overlay while providing good information. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:17 little fancy wrote: Someone called Matt, I didn't really pay attention. He only changes to full screen when games are going on, so as soon as the game ends, you can even see him as he uses a webcam and a nice overlay while providing good information. He's a caster for AL, and he knows his shit. Least moreso than most non-pro casters. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:05 little fancy wrote: Btw: anyone watching this? M5 reviving good old clairvoyance summoner spell, moving the exhaust onto the AD carry. I was wondering when we'd see ol' clairvoyance. Still #1 for warding safely, still has great potential for understanding where early jungle ganks will come from, still most powerful anti-face-checking-auto-lose skill late game. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:18 phyvo wrote: I was wondering when we'd see ol' clairvoyance. Still #1 for warding safely, still has great potential for understanding where early jungle ganks will come from, still most powerful anti-face-checking-auto-lose skill late game. Yeah, but I was hoping nobody used it so that Riot buffed it even though it didn't need it. Like give assists if you CV'd someone before they died.  | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:18 phyvo wrote: I was wondering when we'd see ol' clairvoyance. Still #1 for warding safely, still has great potential for understanding where early jungle ganks will come from, still most powerful anti-face-checking-auto-lose skill late game. Exactly. It has just fallen out of favour because you'd be missing a combat summoner in bot lane if the enemy goes standard exhaust on support and ignite on AD. M5 was clever though and made top the 1v2 lane where it doesn't really matter while giving Vayne (who is a weak laner) free farm, negating almost all the disadvantages. Later, CV will somewhat 'outscale' an Ignite and most importantly, makes it almost impossible for the enemy to bait baron. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:18 Zdrastochye wrote: He's a caster for AL, and he knows his shit. Least moreso than most non-pro casters. He's doing quite well by himself, something I've recently be wondering if I'd succeed at in any way if I had to. I keep hoping for more casting duos to pop up on streams (cuz I'm lazy and haven't search for VoDs) to study for my own improvement. Casting is hard mang D= | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: He's doing quite well by himself, something I've recently be wondering if I'd succeed at in any way if I had to. I keep hoping for more casting duos to pop up on streams (cuz I'm lazy and haven't search for VoDs) to study for my own improvement. Casting is hard mang D= Casting is definitely hard. After trying my hand at it I have a lot of respect for anyone who sticks with it, even if I think they're ultimately inadequate. To cast well you have to:
There's a reason why casting duos are common, and even legendary solo casters often pair up for large tournaments. Splitting the mental load is incredibly helpful given just how demanding it all is. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i'm surprised to see syndra at 31%, so underrated. when i play her in normals i win most of my games. i don't play her in ranked because i only mid when i can't play support. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
Pretty bummed mme.Ferus weren't invited, but I'm excited Najin Sword is going to be there. Also this doesn't give CLG's new line-up much time to practice. Edit: I would take Ferus over TD, but I guess they've had better tournament history. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:24 little fancy wrote: Exactly. It has just fallen out of favour because you'd be missing a combat summoner in bot lane if the enemy goes standard exhaust on support and ignite on AD. M5 was clever though and made top the 1v2 lane where it doesn't really matter while giving Vayne (who is a weak laner) free farm, negating almost all the disadvantages. Later, CV will somewhat 'outscale' an Ignite and most importantly, makes it almost impossible for the enemy to bait baron. That's a very good point about the 2v1 lane, and I could be wrong here because I don't follow the scene THAT closely, but I think another reason they took CV was that the tournament is full of B-class teams and m5 wanted the safety that CV provides while knowing they would destroy teamfights easily even without exhaust/ignite. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:51 APurpleCow wrote: That's a very good point about the 2v1 lane, and I could be wrong here because I don't follow the scene THAT closely, but I think another reason they took CV was that the tournament is full of B-class teams and m5 wanted the safety that CV provides while knowing they would destroy teamfights easily even without exhaust/ignite. It's not about the teamfights, it's about the laning phase where the duo with ignite is heavily favoured over the one without because they have more damage + sustain reduction in direct combat. That's where it really matters. Later, a teamfight is rarely lost just because the team is missing one single Ignite. You still have the Exhaust. And even though their enemie's are B teams, doesn't mean that these don't know how to abuse the ignite advantage. IWC's bot lane has beaten M5's bot lane the game before, so I don't think M5 was underestimating them. And this is why the 1v2 top lane was chosen wisely by M5: -Vayne is a weak laner in general (although her matchup against Ez and other skill shot based champs is quite ok) -Trading Ignite for CV makes their 2v2 bot (even) weaker By sending Genja + Gosu top they are negating both disadvantages and have Vayne + CV scale super hard into lategame so they could turn the game around. This worked the game before too, only had they put Ashe top free farming to 200 CS at 20 minutes and rendering enemy Riven useless. I wonder why IWC didn't really react to that, this shouldn't work vs better teams (where you are probably right in that it's not sure if M5 would use such a strategy against better opponents). - | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I like cutlass first when I'm allowed it, then triforce, then finish gunblade. Extra slow pretty good to catch up to people with escape moves (Shen, Kennen) after you engaged with Q, AD for trades, lifesteal for sustain. It's awkward to build but if you can save the money it's worth it I think. When building triforce, Sheen first for easy lanes where you can burst at will, Phage for tankiness in any other lane; | ||
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:10 Alaric wrote: Triforce gunblade, or just triforce v.scepter GA. Usually boots+3 -> double dblades + phage -> finish triforce -> GA, pick up a vamp along the way for the sustain. I like cutlass first when I'm allowed it, then triforce, then finish gunblade. Extra slow pretty good to catch up to people with escape moves (Shen, Kennen) after you engaged with Q, AD for trades, lifesteal for sustain. It's awkward to build but if you can save the money it's worth it I think. When building triforce, Sheen first for easy lanes where you can burst at will, Phage for tankiness in any other lane; Pretty much what I do as well. If I don't see myself dying in teamfights I skip Guardian Angel and get instead an Infinity Edge/Bloodthirster for more damage. If the enemy has strong AP I like to build in Maw of Malmortius. I just really like that item <3. The early levels are kind of hard but I feel like tabi/mercs + double dorans and hp/mana pots make it endurable. And then you get Trinity and start slapping bitches with your lamp post. I like cutlass first for the early kills if I'm not being forced to roam or having my farm denied. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:39 Seuss wrote: Casting is definitely hard. After trying my hand at it I have a lot of respect for anyone who sticks with it, even if I think they're ultimately inadequate. To cast well you have to:
There's a reason why casting duos are common, and even legendary solo casters often pair up for large tournaments. Splitting the mental load is incredibly helpful given just how demanding it all is. Having done a bunch of casting on my own, there are some things that are easier, but a LOT of things that are harder. More risk of sounding like an idiot when you don't know what you're talking about, way more exhausting, more risk of missing stuff, if you suck at entertaining it's going to be that much crappier for people watching you. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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