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[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 8

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MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
September 27 2012 15:16 GMT
#141
Or syndra can just be managed by the fact that her mana usage is really high. She could have great baseline damage/utility that costs a lot of mana just like anivia but riot doesn't seem to like that.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 27 2012 15:17 GMT
#142
On September 27 2012 23:48 JackDino wrote:
Anyone have had any problems with the game since patch? Get in game, bugsplat. Get ingame, bugsplat, get ingame, bugsplat etc. The second I try to get back in it just crashes again, fun.

When syndra patch came out had this problem as well,it seems to happen largely to winXP users,Riot just ignored every thread I saw on the forums.
Cackle™
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 27 2012 15:19 GMT
#143
So new champ reminds me of Cell from DBZ, even the voice sounds the same. Anyone else feeling this?
Thought the rengar vs cell interaction was pretty damn cool too.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#144
On September 27 2012 15:16 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 12:50 sob3k wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:08 phyvo wrote:
On September 27 2012 11:38 gtrsrs wrote:
i added a video that explains the kha'zix/rengar interaction since phreak left it out
basically i haven't been this hyped for a champ since... fizz? nocturne? it's so cool

my only complaint is that the AWESOME mecha skin turns to a dull red/grey when you upgrade ult (which seems like the most important upgrade) T_T my robot


Pretty heartily disagree on the necessity of upgrading ultimate. I wouldn't upgrade ulti until 16 and it's a tossup between that and W. Q and E are the stand out good evolutions.


People dont seem to read the skill text.

Its not the third stealth that you are paying for, its that AND 40% damage reduction during the stealths....its going to be obscenely good in the hands of a great player, basically completely ruin any 1v1 by negating ALL their nukes and like 6 AA's. In a teamfight it will be crucial and can reduce even more than that. Plus boss mode turret diving.


It's still overrated (not the same as bad) for a few reasons.
  • There's a three second cooldown between uses, meaning each use creates a window of opportunity where you can get chunked.
  • The damage reduction disappears the moment you unstealth.
  • You can't even be targeted during the stealth unless there's a tower/pink ward/Oracle's nearby.
  • Oracle's prevents the ult from proccing your passive.

The ult is good for early game tower dives, where your passive will still proc because it's the tower (and not a champion) revealing you, and the cadence of tower shots coincides nicely with the cooldown. But in teamfights the enemy should have Oracle's, negating the extra damage/slows from your passive. If they don't you can get a lot more mileage out of E resets and Q % Missing Health damage.

Again, I'm not saying evolved R is bad, just overrated (but probably better than evolved W).

That's not what I got from the spotlight.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 27 2012 15:24 GMT
#145
Soraka looks absolutely stunning now, btw.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 27 2012 15:33 GMT
#146
On September 27 2012 23:48 JackDino wrote:
Anyone have had any problems with the game since patch? Get in game, bugsplat. Get ingame, bugsplat, get ingame, bugsplat etc. The second I try to get back in it just crashes again, fun.



No problems for me.

Sucks to have that happening to users.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 27 2012 15:54 GMT
#147
On September 28 2012 00:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 15:16 Seuss wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:50 sob3k wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:08 phyvo wrote:
On September 27 2012 11:38 gtrsrs wrote:
i added a video that explains the kha'zix/rengar interaction since phreak left it out
basically i haven't been this hyped for a champ since... fizz? nocturne? it's so cool

my only complaint is that the AWESOME mecha skin turns to a dull red/grey when you upgrade ult (which seems like the most important upgrade) T_T my robot


Pretty heartily disagree on the necessity of upgrading ultimate. I wouldn't upgrade ulti until 16 and it's a tossup between that and W. Q and E are the stand out good evolutions.


People dont seem to read the skill text.

Its not the third stealth that you are paying for, its that AND 40% damage reduction during the stealths....its going to be obscenely good in the hands of a great player, basically completely ruin any 1v1 by negating ALL their nukes and like 6 AA's. In a teamfight it will be crucial and can reduce even more than that. Plus boss mode turret diving.


It's still overrated (not the same as bad) for a few reasons.
  • There's a three second cooldown between uses, meaning each use creates a window of opportunity where you can get chunked.
  • The damage reduction disappears the moment you unstealth.
  • You can't even be targeted during the stealth unless there's a tower/pink ward/Oracle's nearby.
  • Oracle's prevents the ult from proccing your passive.

The ult is good for early game tower dives, where your passive will still proc because it's the tower (and not a champion) revealing you, and the cadence of tower shots coincides nicely with the cooldown. But in teamfights the enemy should have Oracle's, negating the extra damage/slows from your passive. If they don't you can get a lot more mileage out of E resets and Q % Missing Health damage.

Again, I'm not saying evolved R is bad, just overrated (but probably better than evolved W).

That's not what I got from the spotlight.


At 4:43 Kha'zix consumes his passive. You can tell by the bubbles around Miss Fortune and the removal of his purple scythe extensions. At 4:44 Kha'zix restealths, and when he attacks Miss Fortune for the kill at 4:45 we see the bubbles again indicating he regained his passive. When Kha'zix restealths again at 4:47 we see the purple extensions return despite still being in tower vision range. As I stated, only being revealed by a champion with Oracle's (or by Twisted Fate) will prevent Kha'zix's passive.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 16:11:52
September 27 2012 16:11 GMT
#148
On September 28 2012 00:54 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 00:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 27 2012 15:16 Seuss wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:50 sob3k wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:08 phyvo wrote:
On September 27 2012 11:38 gtrsrs wrote:
i added a video that explains the kha'zix/rengar interaction since phreak left it out
basically i haven't been this hyped for a champ since... fizz? nocturne? it's so cool

my only complaint is that the AWESOME mecha skin turns to a dull red/grey when you upgrade ult (which seems like the most important upgrade) T_T my robot


Pretty heartily disagree on the necessity of upgrading ultimate. I wouldn't upgrade ulti until 16 and it's a tossup between that and W. Q and E are the stand out good evolutions.


People dont seem to read the skill text.

Its not the third stealth that you are paying for, its that AND 40% damage reduction during the stealths....its going to be obscenely good in the hands of a great player, basically completely ruin any 1v1 by negating ALL their nukes and like 6 AA's. In a teamfight it will be crucial and can reduce even more than that. Plus boss mode turret diving.


It's still overrated (not the same as bad) for a few reasons.
  • There's a three second cooldown between uses, meaning each use creates a window of opportunity where you can get chunked.
  • The damage reduction disappears the moment you unstealth.
  • You can't even be targeted during the stealth unless there's a tower/pink ward/Oracle's nearby.
  • Oracle's prevents the ult from proccing your passive.

The ult is good for early game tower dives, where your passive will still proc because it's the tower (and not a champion) revealing you, and the cadence of tower shots coincides nicely with the cooldown. But in teamfights the enemy should have Oracle's, negating the extra damage/slows from your passive. If they don't you can get a lot more mileage out of E resets and Q % Missing Health damage.

Again, I'm not saying evolved R is bad, just overrated (but probably better than evolved W).

That's not what I got from the spotlight.


At 4:43 Kha'zix consumes his passive. You can tell by the bubbles around Miss Fortune and the removal of his purple scythe extensions. At 4:44 Kha'zix restealths, and when he attacks Miss Fortune for the kill at 4:45 we see the bubbles again indicating he regained his passive. When Kha'zix restealths again at 4:47 we see the purple extensions return despite still being in tower vision range. As I stated, only being revealed by a champion with Oracle's (or by Twisted Fate) will prevent Kha'zix's passive.

Ah. Ok.

On September 27 2012 20:42 M2 wrote:
Kha'Zix: He stuns, he slows, he runs, he flys, he high dps, he aoe's, he tops, he jungles, he carry, but what about bjs, does he do bjs?:-)))))))))))))

Does he stun? He doesn't.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 27 2012 16:29 GMT
#149
So Aphro just said he runs 25arpen on Draven. I guess his mo for Draven is just trying to trade and just utterly crushing lane.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 27 2012 16:33 GMT
#150
Is Sen now playing LoL? I am watching GodJJ stream right now playing on TW server and there is a FnaticSen O_O.
Terran
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 27 2012 16:39 GMT
#151
On September 28 2012 01:29 koreasilver wrote:
So Aphro just said he runs 25arpen on Draven. I guess his mo for Draven is just trying to trade and just utterly crushing lane.


make's sense since his q makes last hitting minions really easy, though one could argue that standard ad quints+marks are just as good because Q has a good ad scaling
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 27 2012 16:40 GMT
#152
On September 28 2012 01:33 Caphe wrote:
Is Sen now playing LoL? I am watching GodJJ stream right now playing on TW server and there is a FnaticSen O_O.

It wouldn't surprise me, but then, I also played against some KTFlash's in LoL, and I doubt that was actually flash.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 27 2012 16:46 GMT
#153
On September 28 2012 01:39 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 01:29 koreasilver wrote:
So Aphro just said he runs 25arpen on Draven. I guess his mo for Draven is just trying to trade and just utterly crushing lane.


make's sense since his q makes last hitting minions really easy, though one could argue that standard ad quints+marks are just as good because Q has a good ad scaling

and he runs 19/11/0 to take less damage from trading in lane. But tbh, aphro's plan on every ad is trade and utterly crush his lane.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2012 16:50 GMT
#154
On September 28 2012 01:29 koreasilver wrote:
So Aphro just said he runs 25arpen on Draven. I guess his mo for Draven is just trying to trade and just utterly crushing lane.

It probably fits his playstyle more. Aphro's entire mentality in lane is hyper aggression. He plays so aggressively that arpen is the best way to maximize his playstyle.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 27 2012 16:57 GMT
#155
if youre going for hyper aggression in lane, 15 AD does more damage until much later.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 27 2012 17:03 GMT
#156
On September 28 2012 01:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if youre going for hyper aggression in lane, 15 AD does more damage until much later.

Pretty sure 15arp does more damage early, reason people started to run ad was because it made last hitting easier, there have been countless discussions about arp being better because it did more damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 27 2012 17:04 GMT
#157
On September 28 2012 01:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if youre going for hyper aggression in lane, 15 AD does more damage until much later.

Is it much later? I haven't done the math personally (and can't be bothered). But I seem to recall something saying the break even Point is really early, like pre 6. Maybe that was Pre arp and ad changes
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 27 2012 17:14 GMT
#158
On September 28 2012 00:19 Dgiese wrote:
So new champ reminds me of Cell from DBZ, even the voice sounds the same. Anyone else feeling this?
Thought the rengar vs cell interaction was pretty damn cool too.


Its totally Scyther dood.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 27 2012 17:16 GMT
#159
not to mention Draven's passive can only scale off Arpen.
Carrilord has arrived.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 27 2012 17:17 GMT
#160
On September 28 2012 02:03 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 01:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if youre going for hyper aggression in lane, 15 AD does more damage until much later.

Pretty sure 15arp does more damage early, reason people started to run ad was because it made last hitting easier, there have been countless discussions about arp being better because it did more damage.


you've ever tried to trade vs someone with full apen while having full ad?
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