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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 02 2012 02:32 GMT
#1381
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 02 2012 02:57 GMT
#1382
On October 02 2012 11:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.


wait does like gangplank q apply tiamat? cause it applies on hit effects
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 03:08:01
October 02 2012 03:06 GMT
#1383
On October 02 2012 11:57 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 11:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.


wait does like gangplank q apply tiamat? cause it applies on hit effects

Yes, and at the melee rate of 50%. There was an old GP build of stacking 3-4 Tiamats and an IE and then shooting minions next to enemy champions since Tiamats stack additively. Could get a 5x crit multiplier with an IE and 4 Tiamats. Long ago I think Tiamat splash damage also ignored armour, but I can't confirm.

Edit: I just looked it up, apparently the splash used to deal magic damage.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2012 03:07 GMT
#1384
On October 02 2012 12:06 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 11:57 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.


wait does like gangplank q apply tiamat? cause it applies on hit effects

Yes, and at the melee rate of 50%. There was an old GP build of stacking 3-4 Tiamats and an IE and then shooting minions next to enemy champions since Tiamats stack additively. Could get a 5x crit multiplier with an IE and 4 Tiamats. Long ago I think Tiamat splash damage also ignored armour, but I can't confirm.

tiamat splash still ignores armor, i believe.
Shyvanna tiamat stack is still op'd. Jump in with dragon form with Twin Bite.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 02 2012 03:13 GMT
#1385
On October 02 2012 09:10 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 09:03 wussleeQ wrote:
Just curious, what does it take to become a better known poster on our GD's?


Post a lot of incredibly questionable stuff while having close to no arguments to back it up. It helps to keep going with your points even if someone else has arguments against them.

I don't know how to become one of those well known posters through means other than infamy though.


I've been doing that for years and it hasn't gotten me anywhere. I think I lack emotional intensity.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 02 2012 03:15 GMT
#1386
You could just not discuss anything but hop in every once in a while to say something random like me.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 02 2012 03:17 GMT
#1387
On October 02 2012 12:06 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 11:57 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.


wait does like gangplank q apply tiamat? cause it applies on hit effects

Yes, and at the melee rate of 50%. There was an old GP build of stacking 3-4 Tiamats and an IE and then shooting minions next to enemy champions since Tiamats stack additively. Could get a 5x crit multiplier with an IE and 4 Tiamats. Long ago I think Tiamat splash damage also ignored armour, but I can't confirm.

Edit: I just looked it up, apparently the splash used to deal magic damage.


it doesn't ignore armor, but the splash does damage based on the armor of the primary target
so if you attack a minion, champions will take a higher damage from the splash than if you attack another champion

similarly, zilean's bombs work the same way, in that if you put a bomb on a creep and it deals damage to a champion, the damage will be calculated on the minion's MR rather than the champions.

the more you know
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2012 03:20 GMT
#1388
On October 02 2012 12:17 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:06 GreenManalishi wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:57 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.


wait does like gangplank q apply tiamat? cause it applies on hit effects

Yes, and at the melee rate of 50%. There was an old GP build of stacking 3-4 Tiamats and an IE and then shooting minions next to enemy champions since Tiamats stack additively. Could get a 5x crit multiplier with an IE and 4 Tiamats. Long ago I think Tiamat splash damage also ignored armour, but I can't confirm.

Edit: I just looked it up, apparently the splash used to deal magic damage.


it doesn't ignore armor, but the splash does damage based on the armor of the primary target
so if you attack a minion, champions will take a higher damage from the splash than if you attack another champion

similarly, zilean's bombs work the same way, in that if you put a bomb on a creep and it deals damage to a champion, the damage will be calculated on the minion's MR rather than the champions.

the more you know

What if you put zil bomb on teammate?
liftlift > tsm
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 02 2012 03:21 GMT
#1389
Post at 4-5 am your time with half thought out ideas or concepts, also say things like: Rumble, Yorick, Vlad, Riven, Rengar, Kha'zix are not that bad to face and not nearly as rage causing as many people believe. Remember to be polite and even in the face of being called out just state calmly that you just don't think they are as big of a deal as many make them out to be.

Honestly they really don't seem that bad to me. At least no more then any other champion can potentially be.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 02 2012 03:22 GMT
#1390
I'm trapped in elo hell. I'm only 1263 but I really feel like I should be much higher.

Like 1264.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2012 03:22 GMT
#1391
The best part about GP Tiamat is that if it kills multiple minions, you get the Parrrley gold for all of those minion kills. Tiamat splash lets 1 Q kill 3 minions = +24 bonus gold.

Other "stack on kill" effects don't do this--Nasus Q still only gets 1 stack for Tiamat killing multiple minions.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 02 2012 03:24 GMT
#1392
On October 02 2012 12:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:17 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 02 2012 12:06 GreenManalishi wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:57 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm thinking about what my shabang should be, and I think I should start propagating building Tiamat on junglers, for mad camp clearing.

This just in: Tiamat OP on junglers. You're welcome.

I don't actually have proof, and I don't play jungle if I can avoid it, but hey, trust me on this one.

You should jungle Fiora with Tiamats IMO.

Tiamat synergizes well with her Ultimate in teamfights.


wait does like gangplank q apply tiamat? cause it applies on hit effects

Yes, and at the melee rate of 50%. There was an old GP build of stacking 3-4 Tiamats and an IE and then shooting minions next to enemy champions since Tiamats stack additively. Could get a 5x crit multiplier with an IE and 4 Tiamats. Long ago I think Tiamat splash damage also ignored armour, but I can't confirm.

Edit: I just looked it up, apparently the splash used to deal magic damage.


it doesn't ignore armor, but the splash does damage based on the armor of the primary target
so if you attack a minion, champions will take a higher damage from the splash than if you attack another champion

similarly, zilean's bombs work the same way, in that if you put a bomb on a creep and it deals damage to a champion, the damage will be calculated on the minion's MR rather than the champions.

the more you know

What if you put zil bomb on teammate?


that's a really good question and i'm going to assume it uses the MR of your teammate, but i could be completely wrong there, and i honestly don't know
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 03:26:29
October 02 2012 03:25 GMT
#1393
On October 02 2012 12:24 gtrsrs wrote:
that's a really good question and i'm going to assume it uses the MR of your teammate, but i could be completely wrong there, and i honestly don't know

What you're saying makes no sense. Why would Riot design all secondary targets to take the same damage as the main target when it's actually easier to code the skill as a normal AoE centered on the main target (e.g. all secondary targets use their own MR for damage taken).

Double bombing a minion does a ton of damage because it's actually a ton of damage, not because it's doing true damage to secondary targets when you double bomb a minion.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
October 02 2012 03:31 GMT
#1394
On October 02 2012 12:21 Parnage wrote:
Post at 4-5 am your time with half thought out ideas or concepts, also say things like: Rumble, Yorick, Vlad, Riven, Rengar, Kha'zix are not that bad to face and not nearly as rage causing as many people believe. Remember to be polite and even in the face of being called out just state calmly that you just don't think they are as big of a deal as many make them out to be.

Honestly they really don't seem that bad to me. At least no more then any other champion can potentially be.

Nasus is the most overpowered champion in the game.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 02 2012 03:32 GMT
#1395
On October 02 2012 12:15 HazMat wrote:
You could just not discuss anything but hop in every once in a while to say something random like me.


titty sprinkles
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 02 2012 03:33 GMT
#1396
On October 02 2012 12:15 HazMat wrote:
You could just not discuss anything but hop in every once in a while to say something random like me.


Good idea. I think I might do that a little more. Thx Haz.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 02 2012 03:36 GMT
#1397
On October 02 2012 12:15 HazMat wrote:
You could just not discuss anything but hop in every once in a while to say something random like me.


But that's like 90% of what i do.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2012 03:37 GMT
#1398
Just tested the Zilean bomb thing to make sure I'm not crazy. Jayce with full MR page stands next to creep. Zilean with no MPen bombs creep for 117 damage, Jayce takes 60.

So yeah, full of shit.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 03:43:04
October 02 2012 03:38 GMT
#1399
On October 02 2012 12:31 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:21 Parnage wrote:
Post at 4-5 am your time with half thought out ideas or concepts, also say things like: Rumble, Yorick, Vlad, Riven, Rengar, Kha'zix are not that bad to face and not nearly as rage causing as many people believe. Remember to be polite and even in the face of being called out just state calmly that you just don't think they are as big of a deal as many make them out to be.

Honestly they really don't seem that bad to me. At least no more then any other champion can potentially be.

Nasus is the most overpowered champion in the game.


Only if your team can turtle for 30 minutes in a 5v4 while you farm Q and assuming you don't get ganked or countered. Also, Rengar would like to have a word with you.

Oh wait, now he sounds like any other champion.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 03:47:17
October 02 2012 03:46 GMT
#1400
On October 02 2012 12:21 Parnage wrote:
Post at 4-5 am your time with half thought out ideas or concepts, also say things like: Rumble, Yorick, Vlad, Riven, Rengar, Kha'zix are not that bad to face and not nearly as rage causing as many people believe. Remember to be polite and even in the face of being called out just state calmly that you just don't think they are as big of a deal as many make them out to be.

Honestly they really don't seem that bad to me. At least no more then any other champion can potentially be.

I thought that was my gimmick. =[
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