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On October 02 2012 03:07 Dandel Ion wrote: How does I PBE?
I got that account, and it's lvl 30 and all, but it still has 0 ip 0 rp Not sure if I want to play that much just to try the new champs. Is there some super-secret trick to get mad dosh?
It sometimes takes a while for the RP and IP to get to the account (you may have to play a game first). Also, you get 4k RP and 10k IP a week (you also might have to play a game in the week to get those resources).
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On October 02 2012 03:18 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 03:03 TheYango wrote: What the hell is even the point of having a pick order in ranked if people have to respect someone who's not up to pick yet "calling" a role? You may as well just make picking a free-for-all then.
The whole point of a pick order is that the guy who picks first has higher priority. The whole point of a pick order is to allow your team to react to what the other team picks, not to decide who gets what role. It ended up deciding roles due to most people not being an asshole when someone already picking an ad carry ahead of them, and picking another ad.
I do not agree. I think the order is not only there to react to your opponents picks but also to react on your teams picks. In soloq this is very important as poeple are forced to think about the composition.
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On October 02 2012 03:18 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 03:03 TheYango wrote: What the hell is even the point of having a pick order in ranked if people have to respect someone who's not up to pick yet "calling" a role? You may as well just make picking a free-for-all then.
The whole point of a pick order is that the guy who picks first has higher priority. The whole point of a pick order is to allow your team to react to what the other team picks, not to decide who gets what role. It ended up deciding roles due to most people not being an asshole when someone already picking an ad carry ahead of them, and picking another ad. It's pretty easy to implement the ability to alternate champ picks without locking the team into a specific order of player picking.
It's pretty clear that having a locked order of player picking was to assign picking priority.
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The fact that pick order is determined by Elo supports this too.
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i'm familiar with such sites although i was under the impression already that cerebii was the mobafire equivilent in pokemans. i need specific information though, although it only concerns 1st gen for now (which i imagine the metagame of which would be pretty stagnant but oh well). i will inquire to neo because he has a cool hammer.
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it's just a courtesy thing. If you can play a few roles and this one guy can't it's not unreasonable for him to ask for his role
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On October 02 2012 03:27 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 03:18 dae wrote:On October 02 2012 03:03 TheYango wrote: What the hell is even the point of having a pick order in ranked if people have to respect someone who's not up to pick yet "calling" a role? You may as well just make picking a free-for-all then.
The whole point of a pick order is that the guy who picks first has higher priority. The whole point of a pick order is to allow your team to react to what the other team picks, not to decide who gets what role. It ended up deciding roles due to most people not being an asshole when someone already picking an ad carry ahead of them, and picking another ad. It's pretty easy to implement the ability to alternate champ picks without locking the team into a specific order of player picking. It's pretty clear that having a locked order of player picking was to assign picking priority.
Not just for lanes, for champions as well. I had a game the other day where Pick #5 calls "Toplane Pantheon". Of course, the other team 2/3rd picks pantheon, whereas as Firstpick, I got Nunu easily.
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On October 02 2012 03:28 overt wrote: The fact that pick order is determined by Elo supports this too. I think only first pick is determined by Elo. If my memory serves me right, I believe I have been flipped with people who were above and below me in pick order after some one dodged queue and we were matched together again. If it truly is decided by Elo then we must have had identical Elos or something.
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On October 02 2012 03:18 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 03:03 TheYango wrote: What the hell is even the point of having a pick order in ranked if people have to respect someone who's not up to pick yet "calling" a role? You may as well just make picking a free-for-all then.
The whole point of a pick order is that the guy who picks first has higher priority. The whole point of a pick order is to allow your team to react to what the other team picks, not to decide who gets what role. It ended up deciding roles due to most people not being an asshole when someone already picking an ad carry ahead of them, and picking another ad.
Pick order is pick order. "Calling" is not a real thing. It's in the first rule of the summoners code, they make a thread about this every couple weeks on r/lol.
Being a good team player begins at champion select. Be open minded when considering the needs of your team. If you’re the last one to pick, try to fill a niche in your team that hasn’t already been filled. If everyone’s picked and something stands out as a deficiency in your team composition, try asking for another player to fill the gap, or change roles to embrace that responsibility yourself. Remember, that by taking on a role you don’t normally play, you’ll learn more about unfamiliar champions and increase your own skill level.
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On October 02 2012 03:32 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 03:28 overt wrote: The fact that pick order is determined by Elo supports this too. I think only first pick is determined by Elo. If my memory serves me right, I believe I have been flipped with people who were above and below me in pick order after some one dodged queue and we were matched together again. If it truly is decided by Elo then we must have had identical Elos or something.
i'm fairly certain its by elo, but yes identical elos can be swapped afaik
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On October 02 2012 03:12 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:41 Xevious wrote: ok bros this is pretty random but i'm wondering if anyone on this forum happens to be pro at pokemans. i need to learn some stuff about competitive pokemans fast (not to play it, i'll explain). What generation? Up until Black/White, I was pretty into pokemans in uni. PM/Skype/Gmail me son. Im pretty up to date on the B/W and B/W2 meta game not that great but i know whats going on and what not
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On October 02 2012 03:03 TheYango wrote: What the hell is even the point of having a pick order in ranked if people have to respect someone who's not up to pick yet "calling" a role? You may as well just make picking a free-for-all then.
The whole point of a pick order is that the guy who picks first has higher priority.
I was qqing about this very thing not that long ago. I was told that it is people like me that ruin the LoL experience or something ridiculous like that (when I disregarded someones claim to a lane).
It just cracks me up that some people think the most fair way to determine lane preference is to see who can type in their claim the fastest.
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On October 02 2012 02:36 Requizen wrote: People need to stop having a stick up their ass about "b-b-but I called!" Honestly, I don't mind this at all, and I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt while I suck it up and support or whatever, but giving up my main role (mid) so someone can fp Morgana because she's 'OP' and then go 1/7 REALLY pisses me off, especially after I called mid.
This seems to happen really often at my elo. Like, I would mind it even less if people didn't troll ME when I try to do the same with first or second pick.
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you guys are assholes, try being nicer and maybe people wont afk leave 4 games out of 5
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People who don't call roles because they're comfortable with anything generally are the better players too.
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On October 02 2012 03:45 xes wrote: People who don't call roles because they're comfortable with anything generally are the better players too. Personally I call mid because I've found it's the easiest role for me to attempt to carry a game with. I can play anything given to me, but I'm more likely to do well at mid.
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On October 02 2012 03:45 xes wrote: People who don't call roles because they're comfortable with anything generally are the better players too.
Nah. I guess it is your desired property of a good player to be comfortable with anything. In any even semi-serious team, you want everyone to specialise in one role and not swap roles around. Why would you practice a bit of everything in solo queue then? I will always recommend specialising in one role over playing all roles. That is not to say you can't play other roles, but you will ask for that role every time in champ select and will take it every time you are first pick.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 02 2012 03:45 xes wrote: People who don't call roles because they're comfortable with anything generally are the better players too. Can you justify that statement in any way, because it goes against all common sense.
If a player has 2200 elo, can play only jungle and autolosses with everything else, his jungle skill level is above 2200 because his elo is deflated by having to play other roles.
If a player has 2200 and can play all roles equally, nothing like that happens.
So a 2200 player who can only jungle is better at jungling than a 2200 who can play anything.
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Or people claim a role cause they want to carry, and they are just bad ...
I will carry with Nasus ... I will carry with Nunu top by feeding my jungler ... (thats not carrying ...) I won my lane hard cant carry cause noob team... (winning your lane hard doesnt mean carrying ...)
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I start every game with, "I prefer jungling." If someone ahead of me picks jungle anyway it doesn't bother me, that's their right. What does bother me is when someone who picks at the same time takes my role without saying anything beforehand, giving me 20 seconds or less to reappraise everything and figure out what to do. That's just stupid.
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