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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 01 2012 23:48 arb wrote: Took me like half a game to realize his Q isnt an on attack effect and is actually a targeted spell -_-. His Q is WW's Q but shit tons better. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
Kha'Zix definitely isn't great at teamfights. His stealth doesn't last long enough for you to get out of a teamfight, so if you go in, either you're all-in or you get a kill and reset your evolved E and jump out immediately. Also, the cooldown on the initial cast of his ult is fairly long, so you can't really ult -> auto -> ult again -> auto very quick. This means that while he has decent burst, he needs a few seconds to apply his full combo, similar to ahri. I've been playing him almost exclusively top lane. As jungler his ult is really good for starting a gank, but as a top laner his ult is really only useful for securing a kill once you've engaged. Aside from that, late-game it's useful for juking in the jungle, but won't do much in a teamfight. Because of this, I usually don't get his ult evolution at all. Early-game evolving his Q is better for laning phase, and then late-game you need the mobility from E and the teamfight damage from W. It's important to note that his gap-closer is also his only escape. If you haven't built tanky, and you jump into a teamfight, you better a) have evolved E, and b) get a kill almost immediately so you can jump back out. Otherwise, you're dead. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 01 2012 23:51 BlasiuS wrote: Some thoughts on Kha'Zix: Kha'Zix definitely isn't great at teamfights. His stealth doesn't last long enough for you to get out of a teamfight, so if you go in, either you're all-in or you get a kill and reset your evolved E and jump out immediately. Also, the cooldown on the initial cast of his ult is fairly long, so you can't really ult -> auto -> ult again -> auto very quick. This means that while he has decent burst, he needs a few seconds to apply his full combo, similar to ahri. I've been playing him almost exclusively top lane. As jungler his ult is really good for starting a gank, but as a top laner his ult is really only useful for securing a kill once you've engaged. Aside from that, late-game it's useful for juking in the jungle, but won't do much in a teamfight. Because of this, I usually don't get his ult evolution at all. Early-game evolving his Q is better for laning phase, and then late-game you need the mobility from E and the teamfight damage from W. It's important to note that his gap-closer is also his only escape. If you haven't built tanky, and you jump into a teamfight, you better a) have evolved E, and b) get a kill almost immediately so you can jump back out. Otherwise, you're dead. i think skirting around the back lines for when someone gets isolated and blowing your load on them is prob your best bet, his leaps range is obnoxiously long too. I didnt know what to build alst game so i just went double dorans bruta BT then phage and some random shit after. Any really recommended builds for him? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On October 01 2012 23:17 ihasaKAROT wrote: I think CLG.eu give you the best odds compared to chance they have. nope I'd say best odds/best chances title goes to iG and Najin Sword. | ||
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Kyhron
United States945 Posts
On October 01 2012 23:59 arb wrote: i think skirting around the back lines for when someone gets isolated and blowing your load on them is prob your best bet, his leaps range is obnoxiously long too. I didnt know what to build alst game so i just went double dorans bruta BT then phage and some random shit after. Any really recommended builds for him? Ive been going boots phange BT wits finish mallet glacial situational to a decent amount of success. I dunno how good it is overall but its been allowing me to trade in lane then stick to and finish off most people after a teamfight | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 02 2012 00:03 Kyhron wrote: Ive been going boots phange BT wits finish mallet glacial situational to a decent amount of success. I dunno how good it is overall but its been allowing me to trade in lane then stick to and finish off most people after a teamfight I built a frozen heart after BT i think, seems like the extra mana pool helps out some. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On October 02 2012 00:01 AsnSensation wrote: nope I'd say best odds/best chances title goes to iG and Najin Sword. i really like iG and Najin for the title, but the fact is: 1. they're 23 to 1 compared to WE and TPA's 34 to 1 2. they have to play group stages which are bo1 -_- overall it makes me feel like WE is an overall more solid bet and i would bet on them but i haven't seen them play with new lineup in a while so iono | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On October 02 2012 00:35 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i really like iG and Najin for the title, but the fact is: 1. they're 23 to 1 compared to WE and TPA's 34 to 1 2. they have to play group stages which are bo1 -_- overall it makes me feel like WE is an overall more solid bet and i would bet on them but i haven't seen them play with new lineup in a while so iono I was merely responding to ihasaKAROT and Im gonna bet my money on both iG and Sword since their odds are that appealing, will bet a small sum on WE as well. but not on TPA since their team has been weak for a few months now. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
4 games in a row people in pregame chat start off with "fuck you" for no apparently reason, and at least one hard random each game. But my enemies are so bad I'm still able to win like half of these just ignoring my whole team and playing 1v5. Why do people play this game when they have no intention of winning in the first place and no cognitive capacity for self-improvement? | ||
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
On October 02 2012 01:45 xes wrote: Somehow when I dropped below 1230, the quality of games is phenomenally worse than at 1250-1300 4 games in a row people in pregame chat start off with "fuck you" for no apparently reason, and at least one hard random each game. But my enemies are so bad I'm still able to win like half of these just ignoring my whole team and playing 1v5. Why do people play this game when they have no intention of winning in the first place and no cognitive capacity for self-improvement? Hey it's just like 1800 elo. | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
Welp, that's something i'll never attain. | ||
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Hakanfrog
Sweden690 Posts
Picks really don´t matter at low ELO. I´d say it´s 40% snowballing, 50% throws and 10% pick/teamcomps. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On October 02 2012 01:45 xes wrote: Somehow when I dropped below 1230, the quality of games is phenomenally worse than at 1250-1300 4 games in a row people in pregame chat start off with "fuck you" for no apparently reason, and at least one hard random each game. But my enemies are so bad I'm still able to win like half of these just ignoring my whole team and playing 1v5. Why do people play this game when they have no intention of winning in the first place and no cognitive capacity for self-improvement? Smurfed at 1600 elo on EU w at 17:00 -> 20:00 , people are incredibly nice. I can't play junglers for shit mid and lategame and I almost lost us the game multiple times but they just gave obvious advice and didn't get mad. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
I also really hate his ulti. It feels like unless you carry a vision ward and get lucky when you drop it, or you happen to have your oracles nearby he gets a free escape every time. It really needs a fade in time or something. And sometimes he doesn't even need to escape. Pop ulti when low, swing around the back, bye bye carry. What the hell just happened. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Just won a game where we were behind by 10-20 kills. (And we still won after losing baron.) I'll go with Hankafrog... Many games are decided by snowball effect. ALOT OF THROWS HAPPEN, so a game is never over. In my game, one of their guy DCed for 5 minutes (still, they were so AHEAD that 4v5 was hard). But the DC bought us some time. Then, after he reconnected, they started doing stupid stuffs (worse than my team), and we've won because we sticked together. I dunno if I can make it to 1500 (for the reward!)... I'll need like 10+ consecutive wins (at 20 elo each). If I stick with a 2:1 ratio, that's still 30+ games. The honor system looks interesting. Is it already up? As long as you can't honor someone multiple time, I'm fine with this. In fact, why don't they just build a reputation system? You are good? You get honored. You have a bad attitude? Team can report you (if needed), and you also get some bad karma. And then, you put bad people with bad people, good with good. So good people get more quality and friendly game. The other people are dropped into ELO hell... eh I mean behavior hell  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 Trashed an Alistar in his jungle without anyone moving a finger yesterday too.Also regarding premade 5s that honor each other, maybe it isn't available to players in premades? And they said that if you spam it you'll run dry. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On October 02 2012 02:33 Alaric wrote: What I meant is that I know the level dropped when I can get away with stuff I couldn't when at 1400+. Trashed an Alistar in his jungle without anyone moving a finger yesterday too.Also regarding premade 5s that honor each other, maybe it isn't available to players in premades? And they said that if you spam it you'll run dry. They also said your honor bank gets recharged in matchmade games only, which seems to rule out premade 5s. Edit: just as I wrote that I realized you're still matched with opponents so idk | ||
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