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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
Poppy has no waveclear ability, sustain or built in sticking power. Rengar has all of these while also having even stronger burst (midgame) and almost as good tankiness. Lategame Poppy is stronger, but whats the point if Rengar is 90% of her lategame strength with better laning and better ganks? | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
 odds are http://i.imgur.com/JTC6W.jpg as far as betting goes i'm thinking TPA and WE are both very attractive at 34 to 1 odds apiece and both being seeded into top 8 directly. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Also, the last 4 top's they've made(Khazix, Rengar, Jayce and Darius) happen to all be supremely viable, and surprisingly, I find Darius to be the least toxic as a top laner, mostly coming down to mobility, despite having high damage/snowballing. Jayce get's to be a ranged bruiser(really bad because now you have to give every top laner a gap closer AND the ability to outtrade him if you get into melee range(power creep)). Rengar gets free sustain that also does silly damage, along with burst. Oh and he has a built in cost efficient snowball item. Khazix gets to be super trist, with an essentially free auto-enhancer, and the cheapest jump in the game bar none. His W is the only spell which I'd consider to have a balanced mana cost because it's far too expensive to be maxing for either damage or sustain. Rengar and Khazix also have the ability to dive and combo a carry from out of nowhere, regardless of positioning. Mostly this just comes down to me being mad that Riot thinks making champs that can do everything is a good idea but the induced power creep is incredibly toxic. Doesn't make just top lane terrible, but it also makes every other lane bad because then they have to introduce champions that can deal with it, and older champs just get phased out of existence/popularity. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On October 01 2012 19:29 nyxnyxnyx wrote: from digibet "The 100% bonus up to 20 Euro applies only to customers living and residing in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg". does anyone happen to live there? PM me and we could work something out odds are http://i.imgur.com/JTC6W.jpg as far as betting goes i'm thinking TPA and WE are both very attractive at 34 to 1 odds apiece and both being seeded into top 8 directly. Wow, Asian teams rated very low compared to the NA teams. TSM and CLG.na so high? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Panth used to suffer from either very high sustain champs (WW with armor and smart use of Q, Malphite managing his shield right, Cho'Gath), and only very few champs could fight him 1v1 in the first levels (somebody stated that Fiora's level 1 is stronger, Volibear's passive will make him win if you don't harass enough beforehand, Darius prob destroys him because of his passive). Now he doesn't stand a chance against those 3, not even close. Can't speak for Akali, even though it's obvious that Diana's stronger, with a better pre-6 phase, better escapes since Q brieffly gives vision of what you hit while Akali would need to use a ward, and her E is basically useless while Diana's got one of the best cc in the game with hers, and a shield. Not even talking about base stats. As a Pantheon and Talon lover, I'm annoyed to see the way Riot destroy their previous assassins because they don't seem able to design anything out of the jungle that doesn't get filled with flaws. :/ I'd wish they take a closer look at which "cool" mechanics they can use for a jungler, that don't immediatly become toxic when you send them top lane (though Kha'Zix Q (manacost, cd, damage) and the range on his evolved E are much more toxic than his passive I think). | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
Sure, he is strong, but not as strong as the other newer champs. Jayce and Rengar are imo the strongest champions, Rengar is just... stupid. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
Is it just me or does Corki seem to outclass all the AD carrys right now? Certain ADs may be able to fill a niche that he can't, (Varus/Ashe come to mind with their ultimates for team fights)or do a little more damage, Kog/Vayne (those w steriods), but as far as an over all well rounded kit I don't see any of the others being close to as good as his. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 01 2012 21:44 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm just sick of things that can jump on me and instagib me, and jump right out (kat, rengar, kha'zix) At least Kat needs to actually kill you instantly, while the others don't mind you being out of the fight at 10% HP. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
 Jungling with him was good though. Jump ganks fun. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Maybe it's because I didn't play that much against her (and not top, only mid) but Diana doesn't really annoy me, apart from the fact that she's basically a better version of several champs, making them kinda obsolete. :/ | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On October 01 2012 19:29 nyxnyxnyx wrote: from digibet "The 100% bonus up to 20 Euro applies only to customers living and residing in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg". does anyone happen to live there? PM me and we could work something out odds are http://i.imgur.com/JTC6W.jpg as far as betting goes i'm thinking TPA and WE are both very attractive at 34 to 1 odds apiece and both being seeded into top 8 directly. do you really see TPA or WE winning more than once in 34 attempts? against THAT competition? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
TPA... no chance. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On October 01 2012 22:55 Celial wrote: do you really see TPA or WE winning more than once in 34 attempts? against THAT competition? Considering neither of them have to go through group stages, yes. That is at least a 1000 times smarter bet than going for the 8:1 CLG.na bet. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On October 01 2012 22:55 Celial wrote: do you really see TPA or WE winning more than once in 34 attempts? against THAT competition? I think CLG.eu give you the best odds compared to chance they have. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 01 2012 22:25 AsmodeusXI wrote: Maybe I'm just a baddie, but I haven't been able to do super well with bug top just yet. Maybe he just doesn't do well vs. Darius. Probably I'm just bad. Are people building him standard DBlades into BT into more kill stuff? Also, I just miss with his AA all the time. Jungling with him was good though. Jump ganks fun. Took me like half a game to realize his Q isnt an on attack effect and is actually a targeted spell -_-. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On October 01 2012 23:44 ticklishmusic wrote: I think rushing a GA on the ADC may end up being the new meta at this rate. Or maybe the meta will change to just 5 bruisers or something. I'm always getting GA after Triforce/BT on Corki/Ez and BT/PD on Graves. Always. And it has worked out really well for me. | ||
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