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[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 5

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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 27 2012 07:01 GMT
#81
Yeah it really bugs me when I see some of the top players clicking on their skills to level them up. I don't know if he still does it but I think Saintvicious used to.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 07:13:24
September 27 2012 07:11 GMT
#82
And why would you even bother evolving Q anyway? How often are you really going to find someone that is completely isolated away from any other enemy champion or minion? You aren't going to get the isolated proc off in ganks much (minions) and teamfights (other champs). On paper it's strong as all hell but it's practically useless. W, E, and R evolutions all have much more impact in ganks (cc, stronger gap closer that refreshes, speed+damage+damage mitigation) and teamfights. The only practical thing Q has is giving an extra 50 range on your autoattacks and Q, and I honestly don't think that's worth giving up the evolutions on W, E, and R.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
September 27 2012 07:26 GMT
#83
On September 27 2012 16:01 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah it really bugs me when I see some of the top players clicking on their skills to level them up. I don't know if he still does it but I think Saintvicious used to.

Why does it matter lol?
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
September 27 2012 07:29 GMT
#84
On September 27 2012 16:26 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 16:01 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah it really bugs me when I see some of the top players clicking on their skills to level them up. I don't know if he still does it but I think Saintvicious used to.

Why does it matter lol?

It's important if you level up during a fight - being able to instantly level up and use an ability can save your life or get you a kill. I used to click to level up, but its so much better to use hotkeys.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 27 2012 07:32 GMT
#85
Clicking to level up abilities is so inefficient lol... there are some circumstances where you JUST hit level 6 and ctrl + R and need to unleash it right away
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
September 27 2012 07:40 GMT
#86
Am i the only one who thinks the rengar/kha'zix interaction is a bad idea?

Let's say we are at low to mid ELO, your Kha'zix is bad, the enemy Rengar is ok but doesn't get a lot of kills and never gets his necklace stacked too high. Then he gets the buff, stumbles on Kha'zix invading his jungle and kills him on the spot. Suddenly he goes from "ok" to "fully stacked beastmode".

While i don't care about small stuff like -1 damage on some skins or such, this interaction is a lot more intrusive and can actually influence the outcome of games.

I'd be fine with Rengar getting 2 stacks on his necklace for a Kha'zix kill with that buff up but making the item fully stacked and not lose stacks on death anymore is just too much.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 27 2012 07:40 GMT
#87
On September 27 2012 16:01 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah it really bugs me when I see some of the top players clicking on their skills to level them up. I don't know if he still does it but I think Saintvicious used to.


I can explain this! The general reasoning you see a lot of pro's doing this(at least from what I remember when saint was asked this ages ago) is that people want to know what they are skilling up and in what order so he just does it that way so people are not asking "how do you skill up X"

Rather or not they do this in actual serious games or practice skrims I don't know but in solo que while streaming it's understandable reasoning. Honestly it's how I learned to skill up Udyr/ww/yi jungles so hey I really don't mind it.
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Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
September 27 2012 07:52 GMT
#88
On September 27 2012 16:40 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 16:01 Chrispy wrote:
Yeah it really bugs me when I see some of the top players clicking on their skills to level them up. I don't know if he still does it but I think Saintvicious used to.


I can explain this! The general reasoning you see a lot of pro's doing this(at least from what I remember when saint was asked this ages ago) is that people want to know what they are skilling up and in what order so he just does it that way so people are not asking "how do you skill up X"

Rather or not they do this in actual serious games or practice skrims I don't know but in solo que while streaming it's understandable reasoning. Honestly it's how I learned to skill up Udyr/ww/yi jungles so hey I really don't mind it.


Thats a really good point, and something else is, just because you click a skill to level it most of the time doesnt mean you're incapable of using the hotkeys in those situations you need it. I personally always click, but am aware of the hotkeys and use them if I'm fighting or in a particularly tricky last hitting cycle that I dont want to mess up.

On a unrelated note - I found that Fiora's ult is "dodged" by a Jax with his E up - completely. Also, the extra dmg from the first hit is used, regardless of whether or not it hits... So, if you start channeling your ult, his E finishes, the last say 2 hits of your ult get him, both for 25% dmg, instead of 1 for 100% and one for 25%. Pretty frustrating that being the case, seeing as the best way to fight a Jax is to hold onto burst of speed when he's not E'ing and your ult gives you a good way to dodge the stun/not lose time in the fight where you're doing no dmg. (Although picking Fiora into Jax would be a bad idea anyway)

It seems like a buggy interaction to me (especially because her ult states nothing about basic attacks (randomly damaging), and his specifically says basic attacks...)- is this something that others know about and its actually supposed to be the case? (If it is, the first damaging hit not doing 100% seems wrong to me still...)

Its probably because of the on-hit effect of Fiora's ult, but its clearly worded to not be some sort of modified basic attack imo.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 27 2012 07:52 GMT
#89
It took me a while to force me to Ctrl + QWER, tbh.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 27 2012 08:01 GMT
#90
It's funny how we have the "click to level up skills" discussion here just a day after it happened in DotA 2 General Discussion.

Does it really matter?
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#91
It's something relevant that pertains to something in the patch notes. At least it's not everyone posting how many champs they missed when trying to guess them based off their skill portraits.
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#92
It's like the discussion of having flash on d or f. Prefences bros!
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 27 2012 08:05 GMT
#93
I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion 100 times before on this thread. Also that's a pretty good point Parnage.
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
September 27 2012 08:06 GMT
#94
I don't like it either, but I'll just ignore and move on.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#95
On September 27 2012 17:01 TheYango wrote:
It's funny how we have the "click to level up skills" discussion here just a day after it happened in DotA 2 General Discussion.

Does it really matter?

Too bad I wasn't here in time to start this one as well.

But yeah let's say you're chasing someone, level up, insta-level up your spell and barely kill the enemy that otherwise would have survived, you get a kill you otherwise wouldn't have gotten. However I've also failed to kill someone before because I did have mana for a skill -> leveled it up -> didn't have mana -> died even though I'd have killed him otherwise.

Even so, there's no reason not to not do it when it's a good idea to do it and it can affect your game negatively if you don't level it, hence it's a mistake to level it up with a mouse most of the time and mistakes are bad.
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StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
September 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#96
Ranked queue, come back please
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#97
Speaking of Fiora, I picked her up recently and absolutely love her. Probably my new favorite top laner. It's a shame she doesn't really fit into the current meta enough to be seen in higher level play.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
September 27 2012 08:27 GMT
#98
On September 27 2012 17:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Speaking of Fiora, I picked her up recently and absolutely love her. Probably my new favorite top laner. It's a shame she doesn't really fit into the current meta enough to be seen in higher level play.


Love Fiora, if you can keep up early, or better yet, snowball early, you are going to be a beast lategame. I love how the last hit of your ult allways hits what you started it on. Try dodging that AD squishys
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
September 27 2012 08:42 GMT
#99
On September 27 2012 17:04 Sponkz wrote:
It's like the discussion of having flash on d or f. Prefences bros!


F FOR FLASH. D FOR DESTROYING SHIT WITH IGNITE.

hue.

I've used F for flash so much, that if I put flash on D, it all goes to hell.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 27 2012 08:48 GMT
#100
watching mlg rebroadcast right now, seriously Froggen is my favourite midplayer but I always thought that people banning Anivia against hm was pointless because he does just as well on any other ap mid but whenever he gets Anivia <333 super fed and super interesting builds, I think the only bad competetive Anivia games he had during the whole year were 1 game vs sk at regionals and the finals vs M5@ ecc poland.
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