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[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 4

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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 27 2012 05:24 GMT
#61
why was this thread not created by neo lol
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2012 05:28 GMT
#62
On September 27 2012 14:23 Nikon wrote:
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On September 27 2012 14:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 27 2012 14:18 Nikon wrote:
Oh crap, Phreak recommended taking a point in Starcall early as a support Soraka...

Starcall does a deceptive amount of damage at early levels if the fight is somewhat extended.


It pushes the lane like a mortherfucker, it's just so messy. Not to mention that you're mana starved as it is without using it.

It's not suppose to be used to be initiate fights, it's there more of a "uh, they want to engage on my ad carry, which is now a tank because my heal+armor buff is fucking broken as tits, welp i'll just spam q, and no more MR, win fight, continue pushing lane, win game".
liftlift > tsm
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
September 27 2012 05:28 GMT
#63
On September 27 2012 14:11 sob3k wrote:
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On September 27 2012 13:57 Sermokala wrote:
his ult dodges turret shots? Thats pretty crazy. not to mention it increase's his damage every time he use's it but this means his turret diving is second to none kayles the only one in his league when it comes to this.

so after he gets the kill he can persumably just jump out again. this is now onto conceptual overpowerdness. from seeing wikia ratios this might just become one of the most insane gankers in the game.


It doesn't dodge them, but with evolution it reduces them 40%

Panth #1 diver


Fiora's ult is pretty good for diving people too! Cant touch this :D
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 27 2012 05:31 GMT
#64
Have you ever seen a pro skill Starcall in lane?

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2012 05:33 GMT
#65
On September 27 2012 14:31 sob3k wrote:
Have you ever seen a pro skill Starcall in lane?


Scarra, when he played mid Soraka.

Check. MATE.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 27 2012 05:38 GMT
#66
On September 27 2012 14:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why was this thread not created by neo lol


I was busy when the patch notes came out. Not all GDs need to be OP'd by me. I edit the main post anyways.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 27 2012 05:42 GMT
#67
Cus Gatroserious is our new thread leader
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14197 Posts
September 27 2012 05:45 GMT
#68
ohhhh. but its a huge 40% reduction to how much the turret hits him for after he levels it up. I'm still inclined to not level up his w (missile strike) and level up his ult for the third point instead.
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
September 27 2012 05:50 GMT
#69
On September 27 2012 12:50 sob3k wrote:
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On September 27 2012 12:08 phyvo wrote:
On September 27 2012 11:38 gtrsrs wrote:
i added a video that explains the kha'zix/rengar interaction since phreak left it out
basically i haven't been this hyped for a champ since... fizz? nocturne? it's so cool

my only complaint is that the AWESOME mecha skin turns to a dull red/grey when you upgrade ult (which seems like the most important upgrade) T_T my robot


Pretty heartily disagree on the necessity of upgrading ultimate. I wouldn't upgrade ulti until 16 and it's a tossup between that and W. Q and E are the stand out good evolutions.


People dont seem to read the skill text.

Its not the third stealth that you are paying for, its that AND 40% damage reduction during the stealths....its going to be obscenely good in the hands of a great player, basically completely ruin any 1v1 by negating ALL their nukes and like 6 AA's. In a teamfight it will be crucial and can reduce even more than that. Plus boss mode turret diving.





I actually read the skill text and played Kha on the PBE, thank you very much. I still don't think it's going to be as amazing as you guys are saying. You are free to write me off, I'm not high elo, but I'd rather evolve abilities that are up more than once every 100/90/80 seconds. Given how easy it actually is for targets to be isolated (targets that aren't are hugely susceptible to AoE) I think that Q/E is simply a more consistent path.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 27 2012 05:52 GMT
#70
On September 27 2012 14:42 MooMooMugi wrote:
Cus Gatroserious is our new thread leader

ew
GANDHISAUCE
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
September 27 2012 05:56 GMT
#71
mugi knows what's up

gandeepls
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 06:12:42
September 27 2012 06:11 GMT
#72
On September 27 2012 14:31 sob3k wrote:
Have you ever seen a pro skill Starcall in lane?



Gosupepper does it a lot actually, grabbing heal>starcall>infuse>heal whenever genja plays someone with a lot of magic damage like corki or tristana or even kog. If they get an early advantage I've seen him max starcall first and go balls to the walls aggressive in lane, it's actually really scary what Q max soraka does in early fights, especially coupled with any form of AP damage from alex ich/diamond.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 27 2012 06:16 GMT
#73
On September 27 2012 12:50 sob3k wrote:
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On September 27 2012 12:08 phyvo wrote:
On September 27 2012 11:38 gtrsrs wrote:
i added a video that explains the kha'zix/rengar interaction since phreak left it out
basically i haven't been this hyped for a champ since... fizz? nocturne? it's so cool

my only complaint is that the AWESOME mecha skin turns to a dull red/grey when you upgrade ult (which seems like the most important upgrade) T_T my robot


Pretty heartily disagree on the necessity of upgrading ultimate. I wouldn't upgrade ulti until 16 and it's a tossup between that and W. Q and E are the stand out good evolutions.


People dont seem to read the skill text.

Its not the third stealth that you are paying for, its that AND 40% damage reduction during the stealths....its going to be obscenely good in the hands of a great player, basically completely ruin any 1v1 by negating ALL their nukes and like 6 AA's. In a teamfight it will be crucial and can reduce even more than that. Plus boss mode turret diving.


It's still overrated (not the same as bad) for a few reasons.
  • There's a three second cooldown between uses, meaning each use creates a window of opportunity where you can get chunked.
  • The damage reduction disappears the moment you unstealth.
  • You can't even be targeted during the stealth unless there's a tower/pink ward/Oracle's nearby.
  • Oracle's prevents the ult from proccing your passive.

The ult is good for early game tower dives, where your passive will still proc because it's the tower (and not a champion) revealing you, and the cadence of tower shots coincides nicely with the cooldown. But in teamfights the enemy should have Oracle's, negating the extra damage/slows from your passive. If they don't you can get a lot more mileage out of E resets and Q % Missing Health damage.

Again, I'm not saying evolved R is bad, just overrated (but probably better than evolved W).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 27 2012 06:17 GMT
#74
On September 27 2012 15:11 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 14:31 sob3k wrote:
Have you ever seen a pro skill Starcall in lane?



Gosupepper does it a lot actually, grabbing heal>starcall>infuse>heal whenever genja plays someone with a lot of magic damage like corki or tristana or even kog. If they get an early advantage I've seen him max starcall first and go balls to the walls aggressive in lane, it's actually really scary what Q max soraka does in early fights, especially coupled with any form of AP damage from alex ich/diamond.


Most sorakas get 1 pt by lvl 4, and some by 2/3.
Freeeeeeedom
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 27 2012 06:17 GMT
#75
On September 27 2012 14:19 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 13:57 Sermokala wrote:
his ult dodges turret shots? Thats pretty crazy. not to mention it increase's his damage every time he use's it but this means his turret diving is second to none kayles the only one in his league when it comes to this.

so after he gets the kill he can persumably just jump out again. this is now onto conceptual overpowerdness. from seeing wikia ratios this might just become one of the most insane gankers in the game.


it's definitely going to come down to player skill
kha'zix is just going to be like lee 2.0

that's why i'm starting a fund to buy shakedrizzle the kha'zix bundle so we can start seeing new highlight vids immediately

taking donations as of now

also, in order to continue the skarnold shake rivalry, i will also be taking funds to buy rengar for skarnold

Just need z33k to give the RP they owe us and I'll be set trolol.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 06:22:19
September 27 2012 06:21 GMT
#76
On September 27 2012 15:16 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 12:50 sob3k wrote:
On September 27 2012 12:08 phyvo wrote:
On September 27 2012 11:38 gtrsrs wrote:
i added a video that explains the kha'zix/rengar interaction since phreak left it out
basically i haven't been this hyped for a champ since... fizz? nocturne? it's so cool

my only complaint is that the AWESOME mecha skin turns to a dull red/grey when you upgrade ult (which seems like the most important upgrade) T_T my robot


Pretty heartily disagree on the necessity of upgrading ultimate. I wouldn't upgrade ulti until 16 and it's a tossup between that and W. Q and E are the stand out good evolutions.


People dont seem to read the skill text.

Its not the third stealth that you are paying for, its that AND 40% damage reduction during the stealths....its going to be obscenely good in the hands of a great player, basically completely ruin any 1v1 by negating ALL their nukes and like 6 AA's. In a teamfight it will be crucial and can reduce even more than that. Plus boss mode turret diving.


It's still overrated (not the same as bad) for a few reasons.
  • There's a three second cooldown between uses, meaning each use creates a window of opportunity where you can get chunked.
  • The damage reduction disappears the moment you unstealth.
  • You can't even be targeted during the stealth unless there's a tower/pink ward/Oracle's nearby.
  • Oracle's prevents the ult from proccing your passive.

The ult is good for early game tower dives, where your passive will still proc because it's the tower (and not a champion) revealing you, and the cadence of tower shots coincides nicely with the cooldown. But in teamfights the enemy should have Oracle's, negating the extra damage/slows from your passive. If they don't you can get a lot more mileage out of E resets and Q % Missing Health damage.

Again, I'm not saying evolved R is bad, just overrated (but probably better than evolved W).


personally, i feel like the 40% damage reduction is like jax's E - good for reducing AOE/incidental damage rather than garen's shield which is better for reducing targetted damage.

it seems like the damage reduction ticks would be really good against kennen, morg, karthus, people that you have to run into/by to do your assassinating. it allows you to build pure damage and not die to incidental damage before you do your job IMO

the tower-shot tanking is just a cool, if not as-intended use of the ult, IMO.



On September 27 2012 15:17 HazMat wrote:
Just need z33k to give the RP they owe us and I'll be set trolol.


i'll start harassing cyasteve this weekend
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
September 27 2012 06:35 GMT
#77
ranked ques are closed right?
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
September 27 2012 06:47 GMT
#78
Bugfix: User Interface - It is now possible to cancel the spending of an ability point via the level-up button after the mouse has been clicked, as long as the mouse cursor is moved off of the level-up button before releasing the click.


How many years did they take to fix this? -_-
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 07:00:04
September 27 2012 06:56 GMT
#79
I have no idea why so many of you think W is the worst, or one of the worst abilities to evolve on Khazix. If you evolve it you get a fucking 2 second aoe 35% slow. It's a no brainer to evolve it first before any of the other skills if you're going to jungle with him, and I would take it as a second evolution if I was laning anyway. It's such a good evolution that it's silly. Not to mention that it even gets the unseen threat bonus magic damage too. WTF are you guys even thinking.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 27 2012 06:58 GMT
#80
On September 27 2012 15:47 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
Bugfix: User Interface - It is now possible to cancel the spending of an ability point via the level-up button after the mouse has been clicked, as long as the mouse cursor is moved off of the level-up button before releasing the click.


How many years did they take to fix this? -_-

A better question is, how would anyone know if this bug exists since you aren't supposed to click to level up your skills.
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