[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 199

On October 17 2012 16:46 Sufficiency wrote:
Mistake is saying that Bebe dislike the trio (Graves Ezreal Corki); thus TPA usually plays Vayne/Kog.

On October 17 2012 11:57 Thereisnosaurus wrote:



This needs a tagline like the gay awareness one: It gets better.

Seriously though, It does, a bit. I know how you feel, I had a mess of situations (a really bad duo pairing, horrible internet issues and afkers) which tanked me literally 400 elo in two weeks, I won about 10% of my games despite performing pretty well compared to my teammates. Once you're down in the 800/900 bracket it's really just a matter of grinding. All things being equal you're going to win, but you just have to play a lot to balance out the games where all things are NOT equal because your team picked three junglers, somene AFKed because their golem reset or your toplane fed 5 kills in 5 minutes without being ganked (I should stress that I have won games in all three of those situations, so don't rage either, you need to get those 10% comeback chances in because those are the ones that will actually raise your Elo)

For more realistic advice, learn to play Low Elo support, which basically means picking up leona and taric (since blitz and ali are banned a lot), maxing your GP5 income (3gp10, gp10 runes and masteries. this is so you can afford loads of wards and still scale ok. Taric and leona because they are both really good at applying safe pressure without dying. Pressure wins botlanes in LowElo, not kills. On the bonus, both are also really good at comboing with a competent ADC if you do get one, so you CAN get kills reliably) and controlling your lane perfectly, plus having enough spare gold to ward the shit out of everything. I mean, ward their jungle, ward mid bottom river bush, ward ALL the things and ping when you see stuff. Support is really the best shotcaller/strategist position in low elo because most people actually have to pay attention to last hit anywhere near decently, unlike in mid-high elo. If you get their attention and make plans, you can control a game.

If you have a support MVP, not a support who goes frozen heart first and never buys a ward, and plays tryndamere, you can legitimately carry a team. You just have to remember you are support for mid and jungle as well, not just your ADC. When you start winning them their lane, start going and winning other ones as well. Make sure you let them know you're going to do this and to play safe and hold their advantage though.


You also want to make sure you have a really solid set of clutch picks if your team are paintsniffers. Try and get good on one allrounder champ for every position (I can carry reliably on ahri, udyr and irela while maining support and ADC)


In any case, I've managed to drag myself up 150 elo since then, slowly but surely. I understand the frustration at doing well every game and still losing perfectly, but really the only cure is just keep driving yourself to do better. A 2.1 KD ratio average isn't good enough. It's not good enough as a support, I mean XD.

On October 17 2012 15:58 Koenig99 wrote:
So I just found out today that Fiora smashes Irelia top lane....who knew.

On October 17 2012 17:11 Sufficiency wrote:
TBH I am not sure if Sona is really that good or it's because Blitzcrank is often banned.

One of the problems I have issue with is how Soraka does not counter Sona, even though in theory Soraka should (sustain > poke). I feel the issue here is that Soraka is currently too weak and might need a buff.

On October 17 2012 17:11 Sufficiency wrote:
TBH I am not sure if Sona is really that good or it's because Blitzcrank is often banned.

One of the problems I have issue with is how Soraka does not counter Sona, even though in theory Soraka should (sustain > poke). I feel the issue here is that Soraka is currently too weak and might need a buff.

On October 17 2012 16:51 TheYango wrote:

M5 had the same thinking (both teams valued Kog/Vayne highly in their series), but Mistake notes that Frost actually missed out on this..

On October 17 2012 17:11 Sufficiency wrote:
TBH I am not sure if Sona is really that good or it's because Blitzcrank is often banned.

One of the problems I have issue with is how Soraka does not counter Sona, even though in theory Soraka should (sustain > poke). I feel the issue here is that Soraka is currently too weak and might need a buff.

On October 17 2012 18:13 Sponkz wrote:



Soraka beats sona after lvl 7, with sona having the slighty greater edge at lvl 6 in some match-ups. Soraka outscales sona hard though.

On October 17 2012 18:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Just saw froggen go boots, into 2 dblade into last whisperer. on mid lee sin.

I know froggen's known for his builds..... but.... yeah....

On October 17 2012 18:13 Sponkz wrote:



Soraka beats sona after lvl 7, with sona having the slighty greater edge at lvl 6 in some match-ups. Soraka outscales sona hard though.

On October 17 2012 18:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Just saw froggen go boots, into 2 dblade into last whisperer. on mid lee sin.

I know froggen's known for his builds..... but.... yeah....

On October 17 2012 18:38 TheYango wrote:
rofl at this rate no American team is going to win shit at IPL5. TPA, WE, SGS (stronger than SAJ, SAJ just lucked out an beat them for the first time ever when they've never won against SGS in GPL), M5, CLG.EU...and potentially iG and a Korean team along the way.

On October 17 2012 18:49 TheKefka wrote:

Obviously CLG na wins it all if they show up with a horseshoe and a four-leaf clover to get that money blue spawn every time.

On October 17 2012 17:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:


ive played this matchup a lot of times and im confident its completely the other way around