EPT[Patch 1.0.0.148: Kha'Zix] General Discussion - Page 150
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UniversalSnip
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
If you let the other team get a lot of zoning (Karthus, Nunu, etc) then Vayne is going to spend a ton of the teamfight just standing on the edges being sad. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On October 12 2012 04:26 Dusty wrote: I still think Kog is on par with the other mobility carries, provided he has a Nunu support, to help him move around, stutter step, kite, and do mad deeps. And as shown repeatedly in this last tournament you basically have to waste a ban on Sona if you want to run Kog/Nunu. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 12 2012 04:18 xes wrote: Vayne doesn't have any damage spells besides condemn (lol) so has to spend a lot of the fight in her short auto range (compared to other same range ADs who also have spells). So she probably needs a team comp around that more than any other AD actually. If you let the other team get a lot of zoning (Karthus, Nunu, etc) then Vayne is going to spend a ton of the teamfight just standing on the edges being sad. It depends. Mechanically proficient Vaynes are annoying as fuck to deal with. Also, since her Q is a small dash, you can avoid a lot of spells in mid combat. It's really strong. I think AD carries are fine right now as it is, despite the whole complaint of the holy trinity of AD carries. We're starting to see more Dravens, and Caitlyn. Kog is still a solid pick in correct compositions. Twitch is seeing a bit of play from Aphromoo. Sivir is still the Queen of mid-early game. I'd like for another month or two before Riot decides to touch AD carries. | ||
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
Anyone have a clue why? | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 12 2012 05:50 Doctorbeat wrote: So in Froggen's Reddit AMA he hints that the counter to AP Eve is Huehuekaiser #1. Anyone have a clue why? Because he can 1v1 eve,pretty simple lol. Also eve just looses the tower if she goes away even once and than you can just roam as well. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 12 2012 05:50 Doctorbeat wrote: So in Froggen's Reddit AMA he hints that the counter to AP Eve is Huehuekaiser #1. Anyone have a clue why?
He's basically designed to make her miserable and take towers the moment she tries to roam. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
He looses because every jungler with half a brain camps him all day till he's too afraid to cross the river and your jungler doesn't have the patience to wait and get a counter gank off. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Celial
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 12 2012 06:15 wei2coolman wrote: In a vacuum, morde beats out eve. but with a strong ganking jungler like maokai, or alistar, will shit all over morde. That's why you pick lee sin with morde,depending on the enemy jungler you get a fast or one buff clear off,set up a tent in the mid brush(usually the upper one,because you can gank top quickly as well and because fuck bot lane) and wait. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 12 2012 06:30 Numy wrote: From what I saw it didn't seem like the mid matchup wasn't that important but more stopping Eve from influencing other lanes. Just surviving her doesn't really do anything does it? Well I was thinking it's like going against any burst heavy champion, if you can survive initial burst, chances are, you can win the fight. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11928 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 12 2012 06:44 Simberto wrote: Yes, but as he said, the problem with eve is usually not mid, but that she just runs into other lanes and kills everything. I am starting to have the feeling that against Eve, you should just always buy only pink wards. But that is so insanely expensive. And you can't ward all the ways she might come with a pink ward, either. Compared to the jungler she has additional ways because she does not care if minions see her. It's a bit more complicated than that I think. because the strength is her ability to 1v1 most mids. If you watch the m5 vs TPA, game, Eve going to the other lane wasn't necessarily hte problem; the problem from Toyz was that he was zoned out from going into teamfights on botlane, from the presence of Eve in river. If toyz was caught out in river in a 1v1, he would lose to Eve, so you'll notice toyz always taking the long way to get to fights, which pretty much was way too slow. So essentially you need a champ that can 1v1 against an Eve. | ||
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