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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:06:19
September 06 2012 00:03 GMT
#1361
On September 06 2012 09:00 SoulSever wrote:
Nunu top vs Cho. Is that matchup winnable? I just played it without much jungler interference and there was no clear winner. Both hard to kill with immense sustain and slows for days

Pretty much you,can't win against a cho in lane on your own,he just sustains your snowballs with passive and hp/regen quinst(I'm not sure if they are even necessary,seen a lot of chogaths with those tho),he can cancel your ult with both his rupture and E so you can't really catch him off guard with it.It's just a farm lane most of the time.
Cackle™
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:16:04
September 06 2012 00:12 GMT
#1362
On September 06 2012 08:52 Shiragaku wrote:
Honestly, I do not see why people are complaining about Corki still. Didn't his true damage get mega nerfed?

'cause his damage at all points of the game is insane and he has an 800 radius (read: 2x the range of flash) get out of jail free card.

[image loading]

Play League they said. It's free they said.
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 06 2012 00:21 GMT
#1363
jesus share the wealth bro
Cackle™
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 00:21 GMT
#1364
On September 06 2012 09:12 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 08:52 Shiragaku wrote:
Honestly, I do not see why people are complaining about Corki still. Didn't his true damage get mega nerfed?

'cause his damage at all points of the game is insane and he has an 800 radius (read: 2x the range of flash) get out of jail free card.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Play League they said. It's free they said.

Obligatory

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It's your boy Guzma!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:32:42
September 06 2012 00:23 GMT
#1365
On September 06 2012 09:12 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 08:52 Shiragaku wrote:
Honestly, I do not see why people are complaining about Corki still. Didn't his true damage get mega nerfed?

'cause his damage at all points of the game is insane and he has an 800 radius (read: 2x the range of flash) get out of jail free card.

[image loading]

Play League they said. It's free they said.


How many 7 RP bundles is that?

Those are the only thing I've bought.

Edit I remember my initial reason for posting.

On September 06 2012 07:57 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:49 Celestial wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:36 TheKefka wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:32 arb wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 TheKefka wrote:
Can someone please tell oddone to stop even considering getting randuins on nunu,I saw him build it 3 times already lol.It's the biggest gold waste ever.If you need more armor buy a sunfire/GA/thornmail/hourglass/w/e just not randuins TT

that active is hella good tho

Not it's not lol,it get's drowned under your op slows,because of how slow stacking works.
CDR is wasted as well since you get capped with FH and shurelyas +mastery's already.
Health regen is meh and the armor you can get from something else.It's really just a huge waste of gold on nunu.
On September 06 2012 07:35 Celestial wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:32 arb wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 TheKefka wrote:
Can someone please tell oddone to stop even considering getting randuins on nunu,I saw him build it 3 times already lol.It's the biggest gold waste ever.If you need more armor buy a sunfire/GA/thornmail/hourglass/w/e just not randuins TT

that active is hella good tho


Yes, the active, passive and the fact he's already got the HoG and actually finishes the build is great. Nunu with Randuins and anyone else with Frozen Heart is pretty much as Anti-ADC as you can get.

Nunu himself is a anti-ad carry,you hit a snow ball,bam he's gimped.You don't need randuins for it.


In highly situational team fights it's not always optimal to land snowballs on ADCs because you want to peel or just want to exploit being out of position. Randuins's AoE slow active can free up a snowball to use on the ADC without having to channel your ult and probably get it interrupted anyway. It's not worthless at all on him.

I never said it's worthless,I said it's a waste of gold.
If you want to peel for you're team you hit their bruiser with snowball and pop shurelyas.If more people are jumping your carry than you are free to chanell your ult and they will either get massively slowed or someone will have to stun you,which is fine because you took that stun instead of your carry.Either way your doing your job and randuins is still a gold waste.
Biggest problem nunu has is just getting blown up in teamfights,I'd rather invest that gold into a giants belt for sunfire or save up for GA or whatever than to get a bunch of stats that will be either wasted or gimped because of your slows.


I just played a game as jungle nunu where I ended up getting ridiculously fed and didn't really know what to do with all the gold because our Ryze was already fed and was building FH. I ended up with Aegis Shurelias Abyssal GA.

Are abyssal and GA the right luxury items? Should I have gone WotA even though we had an Irelia top?
Freeeeeeedom
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 06 2012 00:24 GMT
#1366
On September 06 2012 08:52 Shiragaku wrote:
Honestly, I do not see why people are complaining about Corki still. Didn't his true damage get mega nerfed?

I think it was overrated in the first place anyway.

When you crit for 400 that 40 true damage doesnt mean a whole lot imo. It did help with last hitting though which was pretty nice
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:26:11
September 06 2012 00:25 GMT
#1367
On September 06 2012 09:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 09:12 Craton wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:52 Shiragaku wrote:
Honestly, I do not see why people are complaining about Corki still. Didn't his true damage get mega nerfed?

'cause his damage at all points of the game is insane and he has an 800 radius (read: 2x the range of flash) get out of jail free card.

[image loading]

Play League they said. It's free they said.


How many 7 RP bundles is that?

Those are the only thing I've bought.

Rune page bundles? 6.5
twitch.tv/cratonz
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 06 2012 00:28 GMT
#1368
Craton, really?

You da man. :O
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:29:43
September 06 2012 00:29 GMT
#1369
http://www.twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV

Le Dyrus.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:50:06
September 06 2012 00:35 GMT
#1370
I've seen more AP rengars than AD rengars, wtf? I don't think riot planned on people playing rengar as AP.... I'm pretty sure it's a troll build, but damn do fed AP rengars burst the living shit out of people.

What does cranton plan on buying with all that RP? or I guess the real question is... what isn't he going to buy?
liftlift > tsm
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:47:42
September 06 2012 00:36 GMT
#1371
That buy was actually ridiculously cost effective.Seen as they just doubled the bonus RP you get from purchases it's best to buy in bulk like that right now.
On September 06 2012 09:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 09:12 Craton wrote:
On September 06 2012 08:52 Shiragaku wrote:
Honestly, I do not see why people are complaining about Corki still. Didn't his true damage get mega nerfed?

'cause his damage at all points of the game is insane and he has an 800 radius (read: 2x the range of flash) get out of jail free card.

[image loading]

Play League they said. It's free they said.


How many 7 RP bundles is that?

Those are the only thing I've bought.

Edit I remember my initial reason for posting.

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 07:57 TheKefka wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:49 Celestial wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:36 TheKefka wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:32 arb wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 TheKefka wrote:
Can someone please tell oddone to stop even considering getting randuins on nunu,I saw him build it 3 times already lol.It's the biggest gold waste ever.If you need more armor buy a sunfire/GA/thornmail/hourglass/w/e just not randuins TT

that active is hella good tho

Not it's not lol,it get's drowned under your op slows,because of how slow stacking works.
CDR is wasted as well since you get capped with FH and shurelyas +mastery's already.
Health regen is meh and the armor you can get from something else.It's really just a huge waste of gold on nunu.
On September 06 2012 07:35 Celestial wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:32 arb wrote:
On September 06 2012 07:23 TheKefka wrote:
Can someone please tell oddone to stop even considering getting randuins on nunu,I saw him build it 3 times already lol.It's the biggest gold waste ever.If you need more armor buy a sunfire/GA/thornmail/hourglass/w/e just not randuins TT

that active is hella good tho


Yes, the active, passive and the fact he's already got the HoG and actually finishes the build is great. Nunu with Randuins and anyone else with Frozen Heart is pretty much as Anti-ADC as you can get.

Nunu himself is a anti-ad carry,you hit a snow ball,bam he's gimped.You don't need randuins for it.


In highly situational team fights it's not always optimal to land snowballs on ADCs because you want to peel or just want to exploit being out of position. Randuins's AoE slow active can free up a snowball to use on the ADC without having to channel your ult and probably get it interrupted anyway. It's not worthless at all on him.

I never said it's worthless,I said it's a waste of gold.
If you want to peel for you're team you hit their bruiser with snowball and pop shurelyas.If more people are jumping your carry than you are free to chanell your ult and they will either get massively slowed or someone will have to stun you,which is fine because you took that stun instead of your carry.Either way your doing your job and randuins is still a gold waste.
Biggest problem nunu has is just getting blown up in teamfights,I'd rather invest that gold into a giants belt for sunfire or save up for GA or whatever than to get a bunch of stats that will be either wasted or gimped because of your slows.


I just played a game as jungle nunu where I ended up getting ridiculously fed and didn't really know what to do with all the gold because our Ryze was already fed and was building FH. I ended up with Aegis Shurelias Abyssal GA.

Are abyssal and GA the right luxury items? Should I have gone WotA even though we had an Irelia top?

Just follow the smash guide if you're fed like that.The reason you don't get those top lane nunu items in the jungle is because you have to get gp/10 items since your gold income is not even comparable to a solo lane.
But yea,when you get your gold and cdr items just buy accordingly to what your team needs the most(a tank,more damage or just someone that stacks those aura items)
Cackle™
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 06 2012 00:39 GMT
#1372
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2549149

Bump this please, same guy that did lifeguard renekton made lifted cadillac rumble (Piltover Customs Rumble)
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 06 2012 00:40 GMT
#1373
On behalf of Riot Games Marketing, I thank you Craton.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 06 2012 00:41 GMT
#1374
im on chauster's stream with a team i never played with before in 5s
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
September 06 2012 00:51 GMT
#1375
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 06 2012 00:52 GMT
#1376
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.
liftlift > tsm
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 00:57:46
September 06 2012 00:53 GMT
#1377
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

Not really.
Riot never said anything about this. So they couldn't have lied

€: Also, Scoots said both EG and coL are currently looking for LoL teams
A backwards poet writes inverse.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
September 06 2012 00:53 GMT
#1378
On September 06 2012 09:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.



http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=28978008#28978008

It was not a rumor but was the truth and Riot changed their minds 2 days ago.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 06 2012 00:54 GMT
#1379
On September 06 2012 09:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.


Apparently Riot wanted teams in S3 to only have LoL teams and Riot denied it and Scoots is saying it was actually the case but some team managers talked with Riot to change that.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 06 2012 00:59 GMT
#1380
Oh, I thought the rule was that the teams couldn't have more than 1 team per region or something? so CLG.black can't coexist with CLG.na.
liftlift > tsm
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