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On August 31 2012 10:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
is it worth it to try to get to 2.2-2.3 from 2k? Like will it make me better at 5s? I play jungle now so 0 mechanics needed. What are the differences between the two brackets? The few highest elo bracket games I've been in have all been trollhouses.
Well I went from almost 2.3k down to 2k and I felt there was a large difference in skill level. I play for fun but being this low makes me more competitive and I enjoy working my way up again. Can't get better at the game unless you play against better people and they are the ones higher up.
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yea i guess i expect 2.3 to be a lot better than 2k too, 300 elo is a long climb though and i have to work out a lot of problems in order to improve individually.
What is the logic behind 10apen for junglers? I do it cuz I see others doing it but there has to be a math based reasoning.
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On August 31 2012 12:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yea i guess i expect 2.3 to be a lot better than 2k too, 300 elo is a long climb though and i have to work out a lot of problems in order to improve individually.
What is the logic behind 10apen for junglers? I do it cuz I see others doing it but there has to be a math based reasoning.
If I'm not mistaken, all jungle creeps have 12 armor.
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so why not get one more apen red for 12 apen instead of 10?
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On August 31 2012 12:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so why not get one more apen red for 12 apen instead of 10?
you get the mastery in the offense tree
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What is this TL adopt Dota 2 but not LoL? Can't understand the reason behind this, Dota 2 is not gonna be as big as Dota 1 and LoL is currently the most played e-sport in the planet and TL chose to adopt Dota 2?
Man, I am growing to hate TL as day go by...thats sad.
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On August 31 2012 12:41 Caphe wrote:
What is this TL adopt Dota 2 but not LoL? Can't understand the reason behind this, Dota 2 is not gonna be as big as Dota 1 and LoL is currently the most played e-sport in the planet and TL chose to adopt Dota 2?
Man, I am growing to hate TL as day go by...thats sad.
You want the other thread of such opinions or comments I'm sure.
Also AP Rengar, pretty nice burst in lane. Finally got to go against a wriggles first Riven and I completely dominated when they tried to tower dive.
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On August 31 2012 12:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so why not get one more apen red for 12 apen instead of 10?
You can get 6 from the offense tree and that gives you 16 which is enough to do true damage to any small camp (wraiths are highest with 15 armor).
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On August 31 2012 12:42 Celestial wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:41 Caphe wrote:
What is this TL adopt Dota 2 but not LoL? Can't understand the reason behind this, Dota 2 is not gonna be as big as Dota 1 and LoL is currently the most played e-sport in the planet and TL chose to adopt Dota 2?
Man, I am growing to hate TL as day go by...thats sad. You want the other thread of such opinions or comments I'm sure.Also AP Rengar, pretty nice burst in lane. Finally got to go against a wriggles first Riven and I completely dominated when they tried to tower dive.
Thanks for pointing that out for me. Was on a rush to post so I didn't even look up a thread for my rant  .
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On August 31 2012 12:44 BlackPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so why not get one more apen red for 12 apen instead of 10? You can get 6 from the offense tree and that gives you 16 which is enough to do true damage to any small camp (wraiths are highest with 15 armor).
but people dont
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On August 31 2012 12:40 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so why not get one more apen red for 12 apen instead of 10? you get the mastery in the offense tree
Which applies AFTER the 10 armor pen, so it reduces 2 armor to 1.8 armor... what?
12 armor pen is "ideal" if you're looking for ideal first clears on many chars.
Most junglers don't run 21 offense, so the offense tree 6 armor pen doesnt come up often.
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On August 31 2012 13:06 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 12:40 arb wrote:On August 31 2012 12:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so why not get one more apen red for 12 apen instead of 10? you get the mastery in the offense tree Which applies AFTER the 10 armor pen, so it reduces 2 armor to 1.8 armor... what? 12 armor pen is "ideal" if you're looking for ideal first clears on many chars. Most junglers don't run 21 offense, so the offense tree 6 armor pen doesnt come up often.
Which is what i was talking about in the first place. Any jungler who's going to run in the offense tree is going to be needing the 6 armor pen for the true damage. Shyvana,lee, nocturne etc. any jungler who isnt going to touch the offense tree doesnt need armor pen in the first place most of the time(udyr naut maokai skarner etc)
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That feeling of mild dread caused by having a busy week and realising you have 47 pages of the last GD thread to catch up on, as well as the PAX LR thread, the PSA, and this thread itself. Bleurgh.
Umming and ahhing over picking up some hybrid penetration marks for solo top Nunu vs mages for righteous yeti-paw smiting - are there any other champions/setups that they would find use in this side of AD Sona?
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On August 31 2012 13:16 Haasts wrote:
That feeling of mild dread caused by having a busy week and realising you have 47 pages of the last GD thread to catch up on, as well as the PAX LR thread, the PSA, and this thread itself. Bleurgh.
Umming and ahhing over picking up some hybrid penetration marks for solo top Nunu vs mages for righteous yeti-paw smiting - are there any other champions/setups that they would find use in this side of AD Sona?
I personally would rather use my IP elsewhere, but I can see Kennen (DBlades for auto harass into AP items style top lane), Kayle and Teemo maybe having cases where they might use Hybrid Pen Marks.
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what do people think of hecarim and sejuani?
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On August 31 2012 13:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 13:16 Haasts wrote:
That feeling of mild dread caused by having a busy week and realising you have 47 pages of the last GD thread to catch up on, as well as the PAX LR thread, the PSA, and this thread itself. Bleurgh.
Umming and ahhing over picking up some hybrid penetration marks for solo top Nunu vs mages for righteous yeti-paw smiting - are there any other champions/setups that they would find use in this side of AD Sona? I personally would rather use my IP elsewhere, but I can see Kennen (DBlades for auto harass into AP items style top lane), Kayle and Teemo maybe having cases where they might use Hybrid Pen Marks.
I run flat ad when i play kennen, you should be auto attacking the fuck out of them the entire lane + it'll help with last hitting under the tower(since you'll be a bit lacking in the ap department for a while)
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On August 31 2012 13:27 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what do people think of hecarim and sejuani?
Hecarim is pretty good, problem is he needs to be a bit ahead if he's top lane to get the right mix of dps/tankiness. Late game most of his pressure is the ult and that's mostly it, the W is good during the initial burst trades but not great sustain through a dragged out fight.
Sejuani I feel just needs some sort of buff, but you could make her work. Her jungle clears aren't the best and her scaling is a tad awkward, which I feel are her main problems. Her ult is pretty strong though, much better than Nautilus.
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On August 31 2012 13:27 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 13:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On August 31 2012 13:16 Haasts wrote:
That feeling of mild dread caused by having a busy week and realising you have 47 pages of the last GD thread to catch up on, as well as the PAX LR thread, the PSA, and this thread itself. Bleurgh.
Umming and ahhing over picking up some hybrid penetration marks for solo top Nunu vs mages for righteous yeti-paw smiting - are there any other champions/setups that they would find use in this side of AD Sona? I personally would rather use my IP elsewhere, but I can see Kennen (DBlades for auto harass into AP items style top lane), Kayle and Teemo maybe having cases where they might use Hybrid Pen Marks. I run flat ad when i play kennen, you should be auto attacking the fuck out of them the entire lane + it'll help with last hitting under the tower(since you'll be a bit lacking in the ap department for a while)
Hm. I never played Kennen top so I'll take your word for it. That does make sense, and I can see why Hybrid Marks probably wouldn't work the way you want them to.
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On August 31 2012 13:27 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what do people think of hecarim and sejuani?
I like Sej better than most but even I think she NEEDS a mid with strong lane presence lvl1-5 and possibly even a top if purple side to be a safe pick.
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On August 31 2012 13:34 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 13:27 arb wrote:On August 31 2012 13:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On August 31 2012 13:16 Haasts wrote:
That feeling of mild dread caused by having a busy week and realising you have 47 pages of the last GD thread to catch up on, as well as the PAX LR thread, the PSA, and this thread itself. Bleurgh.
Umming and ahhing over picking up some hybrid penetration marks for solo top Nunu vs mages for righteous yeti-paw smiting - are there any other champions/setups that they would find use in this side of AD Sona? I personally would rather use my IP elsewhere, but I can see Kennen (DBlades for auto harass into AP items style top lane), Kayle and Teemo maybe having cases where they might use Hybrid Pen Marks. I run flat ad when i play kennen, you should be auto attacking the fuck out of them the entire lane + it'll help with last hitting under the tower(since you'll be a bit lacking in the ap department for a while) Hm. I never played Kennen top so I'll take your word for it. That does make sense, and I can see why Hybrid Marks probably wouldn't work the way you want them to.
I could see them working, but i think it boils down to preference tbh
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