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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 21 2012 12:51 Craton wrote: Not like a Morde can ever escape a Nunu without at least one summoner blown. All you gotta do is not die in the process. When you have only a single damage spell that is on same amount of cooldown as Mordekaiser's E, killing him will prove to be a challenge. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
Question 2: When Tristana does that, is Baron not supposed to begin it's increased auto attacking/knock up? Just specced a game where a Trist tried to Solo Baron in the pit and predictably failed, and then with her team around her, ranged Baron from the jungle outside and Solo'ed it without her teammates hitting it, just providing a ward for Baron. Seems exploitive. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 21 2012 11:16 CeriseCherries wrote: how to lane against mordekaiser as nunu? E -> Yeti paws. Yeti paws are severely underrated. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:09 Fuzzmosis wrote: Is Tristana supposed to be able to kill Baron from outside the pit? Question 2: When Tristana does that, is Baron not supposed to begin it's increased auto attacking/knock up? Just specced a game where a Trist tried to Solo Baron in the pit and predictably failed, and then with her team around her, ranged Baron from the jungle outside and Solo'ed it without her teammates hitting it, just providing a ward for Baron. Seems exploitive. at max range, yes and yes it's a rare case but it can happen caitlyn might be able to do it too, i can't remember full well i'm pretty sure kog with W can also do it, but it obviously has an downtime also, rengar looks like he does 0 damage. maybe we finally got to see a champ spotlight without phreak being 19-0 at minute 12? nice, something realistic! | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:17 gtrsrs wrote: at max range, yes and yes it's a rare case but it can happen caitlyn might be able to do it too, i can't remember full well i'm pretty sure kog with W can also do it, but it obviously has an downtime also, rengar looks like he does 0 damage. maybe we finally got to see a champ spotlight without phreak being 19-0 at minute 12? nice, something realistic! I think you're way too optimistic about that. Also, Soraka's magic resist aura should be global. | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:17 gtrsrs wrote: at max range, yes and yes it's a rare case but it can happen caitlyn might be able to do it too, i can't remember full well i'm pretty sure kog with W can also do it, but it obviously has an downtime also, rengar looks like he does 0 damage. maybe we finally got to see a champ spotlight without phreak being 19-0 at minute 12? nice, something realistic! all my excitement for him just went out the window after watching that... they hit him pretty hard form the last PBE update........... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:20 Nikon wrote: I think you're way too optimistic about that. Also, Soraka's magic resist aura should be global. Ugh. That would be utterly overpowered. Can you imagine a mid laner getting 14 MR for free? That's 50-60 extra effective HP at level 1 for a mid laner. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:16 Mogwai wrote: E -> Yeti paws. Yeti paws are severely underrated. You're going to eat a huge mace in your face chasing him too, so i dunno | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 21 2012 13:50 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Champion Spotlight is out btw Still no clue why Phreak plays him as a jungler when he looks like he has the most abusive top lane kit ever conceived. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Also rengar looks interesting. Bola strikes seem like a double slow with a single snare on a champ. Escaping him wouldn't be like most junglers since you probably don't want him to be able to use the brush. I don't like his ult but having ferocity charged abilities not use the cooldowns of regular abilities helps that out. He doesn't seem to have much damage in his moves. He looks big and tanky. No attack steroids and lack of hard cc probably means he can't serve as either a tank or a tanky dps later on. Haven't played him. No idea if any of this is right. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:35 TheYango wrote: Still no clue why Phreak plays him as a jungler when he looks like he has the most abusive top lane kit ever conceived. As much fun as he'll be in the jungle I have to agree. I would be surprised if he wasn't a strong top lane, or even perhaps a 1v2 lane champion. That said, I haven't seen such a hilarious champion spotlight in a long time. He could have ducked an inch into the brush on several occasions and jumped on a creep/enemy as a means to close a gap, but didn't. He routinely jumped on people who were about to die anyway when there was a more important target nearby. Not since the Yorick champion spotlight has there been one where Phreak was so blatantly being carried by his team rather than doing much of use himself. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:35 TheYango wrote: Still no clue why Phreak plays him as a jungler when he looks like he has the most abusive top lane kit ever conceived. hes phreak. they built him intended as a jungler and riot probably doesnt want all the newbs to go top with him. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:39 obesechicken13 wrote: Also rengar looks interesting. Bola strikes seem like a double slow with a single snare on a champ. Escaping him wouldn't be like most junglers since you probably don't want him to be able to use the brush. I don't like his ult but having ferocity charged abilities not use the cooldowns of regular abilities helps that out. He doesn't seem to have much damage in his moves. He looks big and tanky. No attack steroids and lack of hard cc probably means he can't serve as either a tank or a tanky dps later on. Haven't played him. No idea if any of this is right. His Q gives an ASpd steroid for 3 seconds after it hits. 30%->50% ASpd on the normal version and 60%->100% on the empowered version. The normal version stacks with the empowered version. Also, the empowered version has a 2.7 TOTAL AD ratio. Both versions reset autoattack timer, so you can charge to 4 or 5 Ferocity, and outtrade pretty much anyone at level 1 with auto->Q->Q. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:45 MooMooMugi wrote: If he can still do the level 1 first blood trick top lane then hes going to be so freaking broken What's that? I can't imagine his leap being too useful at level 1 and he wouldn't have the snare until he had 5 ferocity built up. Unless he had exhaust I'd think it'd be hard to do. Since he has a dagger and xmen claws I think you should build those items on rengar. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:50 obesechicken13 wrote: What's that? I can't imagine his leap being too useful at level 1 and he wouldn't have the snare until he had 5 ferocity built up. Unless he had exhaust I'd think it'd be hard to do. Open Q, charge 4 stacks on jungle minions before going to lane. Flat AD page+dorans. Proceed to allin from a bush. Didn't look like a particularly hard allin to pull off. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:23 Sufficiency wrote: Ugh. That would be utterly overpowered. Can you imagine a mid laner getting 14 MR for free? That's 50-60 extra effective HP at level 1 for a mid laner. Eh, maybe not the whole aura but... 5 MR global, rest is local? | ||
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nemo14
United States425 Posts
On August 21 2012 14:56 Amui wrote: Open Q, charge 4 stacks on jungle minions before going to lane. Flat AD page+dorans. Proceed to allin from a bush. Didn't look like a particularly hard allin to pull off. what happens if they send a ranged champion top and they farm from the bottom half of the lane? what happens if they see you walk in with 4 ferocity and decide to avoid confrontation until you burn it somewhere? it's not like rengar can cs from the brush more than even a melee champ can cs from the bottom half of the lane. seems like a gimmick to me. if i'm three man ganking a fiddle at level 6 and we don't have interrupts or ignites i wouldn't be surprised to watch him ult from a bush and get a triple kill. doesn't mean he's op, just that i didn't take the appropriate steps to deal with his strengths and he got to shine in a near-perfect scenario. | ||
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