• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:08
CEST 03:08
KST 10:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature1Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event17Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Is there a way to see if 2 accounts=1 person? uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JaeDong's Double Muta Micro ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW AKA finder tool ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking!
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1660 users

[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 73

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 71 72 73 74 75 189 Next
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 21 2012 01:02 GMT
#1441
On August 21 2012 09:56 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 09:37 Alaric wrote:
Some quotes I'm reading on reddit regarding Syndra:
- Im gonna try to kill people by throwing purple caster minions at the as often as i can. Cuz fuck me, purple caster minion OP.
- Can't wait to throw Yorick's ghouls on his head
- have you tried an invade with Syndra where you ward blue and throw it over to your side?
- Please tell me im not the only one that thinks she looks like Midna from twilight princess?

Am I overdoing it about looking forward to the next-next-champ? :x

won't blue just reset?

On another note, I just won a very even game by a ~20 minute surrender because according to the other team their nasus jungle was a bot. rofl.

if you pull blue to the corner where it goes into the bushes at dragon/baron it'll stand there, not sure about the little lizards tho
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 21 2012 01:21 GMT
#1442
I think people in general only need ignite for about maybe 60-80% of their kills. It's wasted a lot of times.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
August 21 2012 01:25 GMT
#1443
On August 21 2012 09:56 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 09:37 Alaric wrote:
Some quotes I'm reading on reddit regarding Syndra:
- Im gonna try to kill people by throwing purple caster minions at the as often as i can. Cuz fuck me, purple caster minion OP.
- Can't wait to throw Yorick's ghouls on his head
- have you tried an invade with Syndra where you ward blue and throw it over to your side?
- Please tell me im not the only one that thinks she looks like Midna from twilight princess?

Am I overdoing it about looking forward to the next-next-champ? :x

won't blue just reset?

On another note, I just won a very even game by a ~20 minute surrender because according to the other team their nasus jungle was a bot. rofl.




I imagine it works with Blitz's grab too.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
August 21 2012 01:26 GMT
#1444
On August 21 2012 10:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think people in general only need ignite for about maybe 60-80% of their kills. It's wasted a lot of times.

i hope your argument is that people are bad and not that you should stop using ignite
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 21 2012 01:28 GMT
#1445
On August 21 2012 09:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
aeliel best girl gamer ever? was looking through replays and saw a game where i got shat on, also karma's abilities are kinda OP in team fights.


karma is really bad against aoe comps though because her best utility is for helping 1 person

in december, SG ran karma/riven against kennen/karthus/amumu, figuring the power of riven (she was op at the time!) plus the unexpectedness of karma (it was great, it was at a lan and when we picked her, we could hear the other team from across the room all go "KARMA???") would eek out a win. we pulled ahead during laning and were taking first dragon around level 10. they caught our support ali a bit out of position and flash-ulted and aoe'd like crazy. even with riven's powerful self-shield and karma's support, she melted and we lost the teamfight like 1-4 despite being up in gold going into it. looking back, if we'd had solo soraka or solo janna (for the heals on both, and the pushback with janna) i'm positive we would have won the game.

karma's shield/tether are very strong against pick-'em-off comps that involve the likes of warwick, singed, blitz, darius, etc etc. if you can have someone be the "bait" so to speak, to get thrown into their team and have karma use her shit on them, it can be powerful - but even then the question remains: "why not orianna? why not zilean?"

and another situation that karma is good in is long, drawn-out fights where she can repeatedly shield and heal (but not too long, to the point she runs out of mantras). those are kinda rare at the moment though

i think karma's viable as a niche pick, just not against AoE or in the current meta at all tbh. she's better in a bruiser-centric meta and we are currently in a ranged AD meta. she'll have her time someday it's just not now IMO
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 21 2012 01:31 GMT
#1446
On August 21 2012 09:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
aeliel best girl gamer ever? was looking through replays and saw a game where i got shat on, also karma's abilities are kinda OP in team fights.

Is Aeliel a girl? She acts like one but you can never know.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 21 2012 01:32 GMT
#1447
On August 21 2012 10:26 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 10:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think people in general only need ignite for about maybe 60-80% of their kills. It's wasted a lot of times.

i hope your argument is that people are bad and not that you should stop using ignite


I think people should get ignite less since it's a laning only spell unless you're using it for the healing reduction. There are some really obvious cases such as for ADs, cleanse is 1000000000x better than ignite for fights and sometimes as good if not better for laning.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 21 2012 01:32 GMT
#1448
Having Blue not reset over the wall depends on your positioning and vision. Basically abuse what the video shows below, but from behind the wall. It's how the Red leash to brush behind to steal it works. Sort of.

It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
August 21 2012 01:33 GMT
#1449
ya the support can just take the ignite if you want a kill lane(as seen by iem)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 21 2012 01:33 GMT
#1450
On August 21 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 09:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
aeliel best girl gamer ever? was looking through replays and saw a game where i got shat on, also karma's abilities are kinda OP in team fights.

Is Aeliel a girl? She acts like one but you can never know.


idk but she would definitely be the best girl ever, her mechanics are actually decently sick.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 21 2012 01:43 GMT
#1451
Support taking Ignite would not necessarily be bad. After all, there's a reason the split of Heal-Exhaust or Cleanse-Exhaust that had the Exhaust on the Support. This way the Carry can have the far more selfish Summoner, while the Support runs the Summoner that gives teamfight presence. Ignite would simply provide a similar function in heal reduction and mini-burst. If the Support accidentally takes the kill, it's no different from a stray auto accidentally taking the kill. And if Ignite picks up the kill from a distance, that's a kill you wouldn't have gotten anyway.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 21 2012 01:47 GMT
#1452
If the carry takes cleanse, the support should almost always take exhaust imo, I understand M5 ran heal/ignite but I dont see any logic in that besides baiting in lane.
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
August 21 2012 01:52 GMT
#1453
aeliel is indeed female but also annoying as hell, she doesn't really rage but every game she finds exciting new ways to be really annoying regardless of what team you're on
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 21 2012 02:01 GMT
#1454
I usually end up taking Ignite on AD just because the support takes Exhaust a lot, and Ez generally doesn't need Cleanse in solo queue. However, if I was playing Kog or Vayne or something, I'd probably take Cleanse.
It's your boy Guzma!
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 21 2012 02:12 GMT
#1455
On August 21 2012 10:32 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 10:26 OutlaW- wrote:
On August 21 2012 10:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think people in general only need ignite for about maybe 60-80% of their kills. It's wasted a lot of times.

i hope your argument is that people are bad and not that you should stop using ignite


I think people should get ignite less since it's a laning only spell unless you're using it for the healing reduction. There are some really obvious cases such as for ADs, cleanse is 1000000000x better than ignite for fights and sometimes as good if not better for laning.


Ya and the team that wins 2/3 lanes or 3/3 lanes win like 80% of games. The case with ADC is the only time where the tradeoff might be worth it.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 21 2012 02:15 GMT
#1456
ignite doesnt mean auto win lane
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 21 2012 02:16 GMT
#1457
how to lane against mordekaiser as nunu?
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 21 2012 02:20 GMT
#1458
On August 21 2012 11:16 CeriseCherries wrote:
how to lane against mordekaiser as nunu?

Ask for a gank, laugh as he tries to run and dies. Just do it before he gets any items.
It's your boy Guzma!
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
August 21 2012 02:23 GMT
#1459
On August 21 2012 11:16 CeriseCherries wrote:
how to lane against mordekaiser as nunu?


Once a gank comes, snowball morde, kill him and then spam /laugh.

You have to stop him before he gets much more than a revolver though or it'll get increasingly difficult to take him down.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 21 2012 02:33 GMT
#1460
On August 21 2012 11:16 CeriseCherries wrote:
how to lane against mordekaiser as nunu?

Counter his 13 potions with your own 13 potions
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Prev 1 71 72 73 74 75 189 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 121
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3268
Mong 119
ggaemo 76
sSak 60
Hm[arnc] 12
Stormgate
JuggernautJason25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever980
NeuroSwarm192
Counter-Strike
fl0m1990
adren_tv49
Other Games
tarik_tv23348
JimRising 501
crisheroes495
ZombieGrub99
Trikslyr67
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1350
BasetradeTV52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH44
• davetesta39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5054
Other Games
• Scarra1136
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 52m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
9h 52m
SC Evo League
10h 52m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
13h 52m
BSL Team Wars
17h 52m
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
1d 9h
RotterdaM Event
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.