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qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
August 19 2012 06:04 GMT
#941
On August 19 2012 12:55 Bladeorade wrote:
I love TF from behind

...


Cards are truly outrageous
RIP KT.Violet
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 19 2012 06:04 GMT
#942
On August 19 2012 14:02 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 13:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 19 2012 13:32 Craton wrote:
Redbaron is fine. Hatperson is awful.


is hatperson the fat one?

Yes


Ok. I didn't think his game analysis was very good but I don't dislike him.

To be honest english casting has gotten so much better recently. The only element I find english casters are consistently lacking in is humor. They try but it's often not very good.

The worst offender is studio. I like his casting until he tries to crack a joke, then it's pretty painful - he should just leave color and humor (does color include humor? no idea) to his partner.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 19 2012 06:08 GMT
#943
On August 19 2012 14:45 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Was thinking. One of the things that people do is often times let their lanes get the kill as opposed to the jungler.... Why isn't it reversed? Assuming you feed the jungle, he can have a huge impact on every lane. Yeah, the kill in lane is really nice, but assist gold, creep waves, and exp advantage are already fairly helpful.

I just think about the times I'm a jungler and start off a match like 3/1/0 instead of 0/1/3 and how much I can start diving opponents at their turret and snowballing stuff around the whole map.


In top lane, you always want the laner to get the kill since if the laner gets ahead, he can actively deny the other laner, even without your intervention. An example would be you your toplaner fb and recall since he got low. Your top laner grabs a dorans blade + ward and heads to lane while his opponent buys another pot and heads to lane. Your top laner now has more health, damage and safety than the other top laner. Small differences are greatly amplified toplane.

Midlane, it doesn't matter too much since in most matchups, one death doesn't snowball the lane hard enough either way to deny the other person immediately. Take the kill if you can, especially since mid has the most potential burst available of all the lanes.

Bottom lane, it's hard to gank anyways so if you can get a kill, take it.

Essentially, the reason you want the kills on the laners is that if they get ahead, they can start denying their lane opponent harder than you can. Although getting fed to 3/1/0 after say 6 minutes as jungle is nice, having 2/0/0 on your top laner is FAR better. They can generally take that advantage and make toplane almost impossible for their lane opponent..
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 19 2012 06:23 GMT
#944
On August 19 2012 11:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm going to nip this at the bud. No more.

Feel free to PM amongst yourselves or over PvP.net. But no more here in GD.

Thanks all.


lol'd. Well played, my friend.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 19 2012 07:50 GMT
#945
So I played Diana all day. Played like 13-14 games of her today. My first time marathoning a champ since the days when I played Anivia and Karthus almost exclusively. Hopefully Riot will release another champ I could do this with. I think Syndra could be promising. I just have a lot of fun playing Diana.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 19 2012 08:54 GMT
#946
On August 19 2012 15:08 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 14:45 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Was thinking. One of the things that people do is often times let their lanes get the kill as opposed to the jungler.... Why isn't it reversed? Assuming you feed the jungle, he can have a huge impact on every lane. Yeah, the kill in lane is really nice, but assist gold, creep waves, and exp advantage are already fairly helpful.

I just think about the times I'm a jungler and start off a match like 3/1/0 instead of 0/1/3 and how much I can start diving opponents at their turret and snowballing stuff around the whole map.


In top lane, you always want the laner to get the kill since if the laner gets ahead, he can actively deny the other laner, even without your intervention. An example would be you your toplaner fb and recall since he got low. Your top laner grabs a dorans blade + ward and heads to lane while his opponent buys another pot and heads to lane. Your top laner now has more health, damage and safety than the other top laner. Small differences are greatly amplified toplane.

Midlane, it doesn't matter too much since in most matchups, one death doesn't snowball the lane hard enough either way to deny the other person immediately. Take the kill if you can, especially since mid has the most potential burst available of all the lanes.

Bottom lane, it's hard to gank anyways so if you can get a kill, take it.

Essentially, the reason you want the kills on the laners is that if they get ahead, they can start denying their lane opponent harder than you can. Although getting fed to 3/1/0 after say 6 minutes as jungle is nice, having 2/0/0 on your top laner is FAR better. They can generally take that advantage and make toplane almost impossible for their lane opponent..


I almost put top lane as a caveat. While it's not a rule, certainly many matchups do snowball pretty hard/fast with a kill.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 19 2012 09:14 GMT
#947
Top lane snow balls mostly because the ability to deny farm. In mid lane, even if your behind, most AP mids have very safe and easy time clearing/farming lane without getting denied, even when behind in lane. Same applies to bot lane.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 19 2012 12:36 GMT
#948
Bot lane is the easiest lane to deny farm. From high 1400s on the first time I saw a top laner control wave when ahead was at 1700s. I think kills should always be given to the AD. The rest should be fair game but I still give to solos. They are the carries after all and jungler is the 2nd support.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 19 2012 12:59 GMT
#949
shoot me for saying this but I believe early kills should go to whoever is getting gp10s.
cool beans
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 19 2012 13:02 GMT
#950
Holy shit, the game client art for the tournament is so impressive.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 19 2012 13:10 GMT
#951
On August 19 2012 21:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
shoot me for saying this but I believe early kills should go to whoever is getting gp10s.

Usually if I get first blood on my ad carry I go 2-3 gp10 and be richer than the other ad.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 19 2012 13:13 GMT
#952
On August 19 2012 21:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
shoot me for saying this but I believe early kills should go to whoever is getting gp10s.



Get fed, get gp10, go late-game, gp10 pays off, worth it.
hi
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 19 2012 13:15 GMT
#953
On August 19 2012 22:10 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
shoot me for saying this but I believe early kills should go to whoever is getting gp10s.

Usually if I get first blood on my ad carry I go 2-3 gp10 and be richer than the other ad.

Or you could get real items like a BF Sword and just win lane harder while actually doing something useful instead of having dead items.

Sure if it's a farm lane GP10 makes you richer by a little bit. Or you could just actually have a powerful item that lets you win any skirmish bot lane that means the other guy can never get close to the creep wave. And then you're farmed and he's not instead of both being farmed.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 19 2012 13:18 GMT
#954
On August 19 2012 22:15 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 22:10 JackDino wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:59 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
shoot me for saying this but I believe early kills should go to whoever is getting gp10s.

Usually if I get first blood on my ad carry I go 2-3 gp10 and be richer than the other ad.

Or you could get real items like a BF Sword and just win lane harder while actually doing something useful instead of having dead items.

Sure if it's a farm lane GP10 makes you richer by a little bit. Or you could just actually have a powerful item that lets you win any skirmish bot lane that means the other guy can never get close to the creep wave. And then you're farmed and he's not instead of both being farmed.


Naw man, GP10 are better

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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 19 2012 13:36 GMT
#955
STOP THE GP10 DISCUSSION WTF
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 13:48:54
August 19 2012 13:38 GMT
#956
On August 19 2012 22:36 Slayer91 wrote:
STOP THE GP10 DISCUSSION WTF

Lets talk about Hecarim instead. If you know what I mean.
Anyone ever try an AP/hybrid build on him? Like building a Needlessly Large Rod for better aoe damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 19 2012 14:03 GMT
#957
Two PD and MoBo into 3 BT on Hecarim, everything else sucks.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11802 Posts
August 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#958
What. Hec build is Triforce, Mobo, 4 PD. Is a known fact.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
August 19 2012 14:57 GMT
#959
boy, that escalated quickly
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 19 2012 15:25 GMT
#960
It is known.
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